Otoahro!
We used to have drumming sessions in this area. I got a drum and spent a year or so drumming hours each day. My beat is the Chulan beat. When I am with a group, their beat is similar to the Native American's beat.
A friend of mine had a basement to her house big enough for a large gathering. We gathered there for drumming. She particularly wanted me to attend so she could find out about this beat. she asked me to start the drumming. I did and no one could join in with me. Finally one of the usual drummers, took over the beat and all the rest joined in. I simply stopped and listened.
I am getting forgetful. I hope I haven't shared this before!
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