The Reiki Cafe 

Namaste,

The first 100 members to reserve their membership to
http://www.mystictemple.com will receive their membership for $99. The regular price thereafter will be $199. Membership includes access to over 300 attunements including manuals where applicable.

This is for real. DorjeBob are very excited to be offering this opportunity to serious energy practitioners and healers. For further details just visit our website. To reserve a place join the Masters_of_Light yahoogroup. Masters_of_Light officially opens December 1st.

Blessings & Light,
SkyDancer1111
Email: skydancer@mystictemple.com

dear SkyDancer1111,

Thanks for your bringing.

But I have to ask ; how would it help some-one along their Path to persue attunement after attunement?

Manaste,
michael

Hi,

Not all attunements affect the energy channels in the same way. A Tibetan Buddhist Llama I studied with put it something like this... "empowerments are like seeds and fertilizer. They will all help you but you need to water them to grow." If you do not practice with what you are given attunements and empowerments will still help you in the path of spiritual growth but only so much. It is ok to receive many but focus and train with just a few.

The big incentive for most people will probably be the low introductory cost, especially for those that like to receive a lot of attunements or healing sessions. The incentive for us is that doing this will greatly simplify the website. I won't have to think what should I charge for each attunement. I won't have to answer repeat questions over and over in emails.

Simplification has been a huge undertaking for DorjeBob and I this year. We have notebooks full of channellings, symbols, healing energies etc... many have never made it to the website due to time constraints. So, I am really excited about offering this format for our site in part because I'll be able to start sorting through them.

If you feel drawn to join, please do. If not, that's great too. Everyone has their own path.

Blessings & Light,
SkyDancer

arati,

/*\ Namaste :-}}

- "Manaste"??

- so, how many attunements might it take to heal 'distypia'??

bagl

Reiki all around,

all blessings,

firekeeper

.....how many?

fite a quew I'd guess.

Well, this is a serious offer for those seriously interested in energy healing. Just because 300+ will be available does not mean that someone need receive them all. People can receive or not as they choose. While you may make jokes some will really appreciate this type of offer even if you do not.

skydancer,

/*\ Namaste :-}}

- excuse me for joking with Atira

bagl

- if I wish to joke with you I will reply directly to you

>:-}}

- If I wish to joke with Mystiktemple(??) I will contact him\her etc.

- I try never to shoot the messenger - but messengers do need to be alert for an occasional jibe - comes with the territory, I fear.

>:-}}

- take care,

Reiki all around,

all blessings,

Firekeeper

Atira,

/*\ Namaste :-}}

- oh my!!! I'm infected two!! Dystypia appears to be contiguous.

- please add me to your reiki healing lyst; quyk!!

>:-}}

Rayke all around,

all blessings,

Firekeeper

i was soooo hoping someone would say something!!

I'm hearing the phrase, too good to be true
Blessings,
lyssa

Lyssa
In my humble opinion (well it probaly isn't that humble hehehe) If what you have works and you are happy with it, another energy system(let alone 300+) or varients of the one that you have is going to make it work any better , or you be any happier with it.
Reiki, as we practice it was developed over a few years by a man who studied for many years (allegedly) and not channelled from long forgotton races on this planet or from aliens.
My feelings are that you develop what you have. Most of the best healers I have met just have the one system or possibley 2 at most.

I do think that if you have to many different systems, that it tends to confuse your energy. Think of if you are in a room with 300 people, and they are all talking to you at the same time, all telling you to do something different. What effect would that have?

Namaste

Rob
Friendship with oneself is all-important, because without it one cannot be friends with anyone else in the world.
Eleanor Roosevelt

This is really a big subject.

It can be good as a healer to many tools (energies)
But yes too many can be confusing.

Since different energies do different things it can be good to have access to many of them. The more the better…maybe

What would you do with 300 attunements?
But if you get 100 or 200 attunement then just let them do what they do and only work with one, two or ten of them it may be good.

There is a lot to consider here.

rich

Hi Rich
Do different energies really do different things?
Or do they just show us what we could do with the energy system we already have?
After all you can use the Mudra's that come from Karanu with Reiki. They still work (But I wonder if it is ant differently?)

I wonder if Dr Usui had any different energy healing system to Reiki, before he developed Reiki?

Ok he could have done. Reiki is after all not to disimiler(so it has been said) to a few other energy systems that emerged from Japan at the time.

I agree with you that there is a lot to consider here.

Namaste

Rob
Friendship with oneself is all-important, because without it one cannot be friends with anyone else in the world.
Eleanor Roosevelt

Hi Rob

rob1957 said on
Do different energies really do different things?

How about this - can you think back to a time when you were in school and learning certain subjects? Did you ever experience a year of learning where you just couldn't grasp the subject, but the next year you had a different teacher and all of a sudden everything became easier to work with, to understand? Couldn't different types of energy work be the same. We may be able to stumble through one, but not get it totally. Then along comes another 'style' and suddenly it just clicks. Maybe that is one reason why there are so many 'styles' out there. People just adapt in different ways.

I believe all Reiki energy comes from the same source, no matter what the style of Reiki is... but I also believe that sometimes we may not quite understand it in one way, but in the next it is possible.

Just a few cents worth!

With light and love,
Featherpoint

Hi Featherpoint
Well school years were 30 + years ago, so only just yes (LOL).
You do however make a good point. Yes a different teacher could make a difference in how much was learned.
The subject however stayed the same.
Yes we all do adapt in different ways. However I still can't see the point of taking so many different attunements.
Looking at what I have learnt energy system wise.
Reiki 1 was also tera mai 1
Reiki 2 was just straight no nonsense Usui (takata) reiki
Reiki 3 was Tibetain Reiki.
I have also done magnified healing and an offshoot of that called Universal healing,(In both you co create the energy, and yes it is different, because you are using your own energy as well as ULE)

I have also recieved an atunement for SKM/Seichem/Reiki.

Did any of the additional atunements make any difference to my energy. Well I am told, by those that regulary recieve reiki from me that the answear is no. Practice and constantly using and learning about what I have however does.
The only real reason that I can see for many (like 10-15 +) different types of reiki, is that you arn't really satisfied with what you have, or that you just like collecting things.
I know that some will see it differently. That is good, after all wouldn't it be very boring if we all thought the same way (LOL)

Namaste

Rob
Friendship with oneself is all-important, because without it one cannot be friends with anyone else in the world.
Eleanor Roosevelt

I agree wholeheartedly, Rob.

Pagans might see reiki as the same nature energy they use in healing rituals; christian faith healings would say it was the energy of God; chinese medicine practitioners work with chi; Hindus call it prana.

It is a mistake for anyone to say reiki is anymore the truest form of healing energy than anything else. We mostly agree that the universe is All that Is, and resides within and without every living/non-living thing.

Once we begin drawing distinctions between healing modalities, we split that sense of Oneness.

We are co-creators in this life, and that's why there are so many forms of the same idea, it suits different people. However, I think there is always room for a good dose of discernment and understanding that we live in a greedy, consumer oriented society. People seem to want more and more of the same thing, for the sake of being able to say they've got it.
Light and love,
lyssa

There are two levels we need to talk about.
1 the relative, the world of duality
2 the absolute, the oneness

from the perspective of oneness there is only one energy and all energies can be called one energy. from the perspective of duality (which is the world we live in) there are many different energies. Prana is not chi. They are very similar but they are not the same. The same can be said of Reiki and other energy systems.

Distinctions need to be made between healing systems. Just as distinctions need be made between colors. from the perspective of oneness there is only one color. This is not a practical way to view color in this world. from the perspective of duality (which is the world we live in) there are many different colors.

rich

Hi Rich
Are you really sure that Prana is not Chi is not Orgone is not Ka is not Mana and so on?. How can this be shown in a non philisophical way? . As it been shown in a scientrific way ?
Namaste

Rob
Friendship with oneself is all-important, because without it one cannot be friends with anyone else in the world.
Eleanor Roosevelt

I do not know about Ka. Orgon does feel different to me so I will say that it is different.. Prana and Chi are also different. The difference may not be great but they are slightly different energies. I only know of mana in name I have never worked with it so I can not write about it.

I am sure that some of the different names of energies refer to the same energy but I also know that some of the energies are different.

No science behind this just what I feel and have been taught

rich

Hi Rich
So we could be talking about perception?.
Have you every noticed how each person who gives you Reiki also feels as if their energy is slightly different?
If you could have reiki from 5 reiki 1's who have the same teacher, in the same class, I wonder if you would get 5 different feelings of energy. Would that then mean that you had recieved 5 different versions of reiki if you did?

Namaste

Rob
Friendship with oneself is all-important, because without it one cannot be friends with anyone else in the world.
Eleanor Roosevelt

We are talking about my perception but also what I have learned from others.

With Reiki I do think it is a little difference in the energy from different people. I don not think that this means that the Reiki is different from different people. I think that peoples personal energy and beliefs mix in some way with the Reiki.

Still from my experience, first hand and second hand, there are differences between chi, prana and orgon.

rich

Hi Rich
I think that you have hit the nail on the head when you say
"I think that peoples personal energy and beliefs mix in some way with the Reiki."

A lot of these new Reiki's do seem to be attached to a spiritual belief( I've probaly worded that wrong. But I mean like Kundalini, various goddess types,Various long forgotton(Or much evolved) spirititual systems etc).

If your learning and your perception confirm to you that there are differences in Prana, Chi and et all, then that is how it is. I think the subject has been chewed over by a few philosophers in the past, and that they have agreed to disagree (LOL).

At the end of the day does it really matter if there are differances or they are the same?

Rich , thanks for the interesting discussion

Namaste

Rob
Friendship with oneself is all-important, because without it one cannot be friends with anyone else in the world.
Eleanor Roosevelt

I'm so happy to hear that ehehe

“At the end of the day does it really matter if there are differances or they are the same?”

Yes and no

One of my goals as an energy worker/healer is to be so sensitive as to know exactly what energy and how much of it is needed to do exactly what. I would like to know for sure if any of my own energy, thoughts etc is getting mixed in with the energy I am using and exactly what it is doing…in short, I want to know/feel it all, LOL.. I think that the more I can know/feel the better my work will be.

I know that Reiki is supposed to do all of the above automatically but I have my doubts.

At my level of work…
I try to make the above distinctions and do the best work I can but I am still, in a way a beginner (a beginner with 25 experience LOL) at this.

rich

I'm sure you have probably already done this. But what might help is to sit back and just feel your own energies for awhile.

My guess would be that after doing so, if you send Reiki or any other energy you use, and it feels similar but maybe a bit different. then you'll know the difference is more than likely the other energy the similarities your own energy.

Hi Rich
What Dave said (LOL) he beat me to it (LOL).
I think that taking the attitude that after all these years that you are still a beginner is the right attitude. That way you leave your self open for new expieriances.
It also probally means that you stay mindfull of what you are doing, which in my opinion is also good.

I do think that it is enivetable that some of your own energy can get mixed in, after all there is the desire to help the person we are working on to the best of our abilities.

I also share your doubts.

Namaste

Rob
Friendship with oneself is all-important, because without it one cannot be friends with anyone else in the world.
Eleanor Roosevelt