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Renowned Reiki Teacher Dr. Ravie Saini from India is planning to visit UK with the purpose of taking Reiki classes. Levels 1, 2, 3, Karuna Reiki, Lama Fera, Crystal Healing, Rainbow Reiki, Psychic Healings and Clairvoyance.
Dr. Saini is a registered Reiki teacher with affiliations from USA and Australia. He has been practising Reiki for over 14 years now and is known to heal various chronic diseases and cancers. Help is needed to organize these seminars in UK in February and March. Anyone interested please reply to this message and the further details can be discussed.

Thanks

Maitri

Maitri ... namaste ...

I believe it is illegal, certainly in the UK, to claim to cure cancer.

philanty

Namaste

I did not know that but why is this so?

Thanks
Maitri

Hi Maitri
I Think that is because at the current moment there is no real known cure for Cancer. It is a disease that goes into remission. It is also dangerous to claim that you can cure it, therefore giving people false hope.
People have in the past fallen for "Quack" medicine men and rejected conventional therapies and shortening thier life in the process,when had they carried on with the convention treatment that would perhaps have had another 10 to 15 years on this planet.
It would be interesting to see Independant documented proof to back up the claim of curing cancer. perhaps he has something.
Namaste

Rob
Friendship with oneself is all-important, because without it one cannot be friends with anyone else in the world.
Eleanor Roosevelt

Hi Rob

I agree that there is no conventional medicine for cancer till now but thats my point....every Reiki master knows that Reiki can and has done wonders...I have seen many cancer patients healed by Reiki and they are still healthy after many years.....I have proofs for it...

Reiki does not involve any medication, it is the universal energy that can heal any problem in this world because if there is a problem there has to be a cure for it....

I do not want to say much because I think everyone involved in this system should know what this system is capable of healing.

Namaste
Maitri

Hi Maitri,
Namaste ....

Of course every Reiki Master knows that REIKI can and has done wonders.

Healing and curing are not the same thing.

If one were offering Reiki to someone who has been bereaved, you could heal them, in a way, but you cannot cure their having lost a loved one.

Reiki Healing is wonderful, we all know that.

Regarding your original posting, it is illegal to claim to cure cancer - as Rob rightly says, it may offer false hope to many who have cancer, who will not be cured. They may receive significant healing, to enable them to cope with their circumstances, but they may still die from the cancer. They may even have a smoother passing due to the Reiki.

The other point I would make is that if one is a Reiki Master, or any level of Reiki for that matter, it is the REIKI that produces the healing, not the Master. A Reiki healer offers, and channels Reiki. Therefore, is it not rather egotistical to claim, through Reiki, to be a fantastic healer? It is not the way of Reiki to put oneself to the fore, to claim the results as one`s own, when in fact they are due to a force far beyond our understanding.

These are my own thoughts and there may be many who will disagree.

Love and light
philanty

Maitri
I still would like to see, as i'm sure others would, fully documented,independent proof of the claims (prefably from a medical background).
I do think that what Philanty says is spot on.

You and your master should also perhaps be aware that there are many extreamly good healers around and also some here on the boards that have worked extensivly with cancer sufferers, Not one of them has in my knowledge, claimed to cure cancer.

Namaste

Rob
Friendship with oneself is all-important, because without it one cannot be friends with anyone else in the world.
Eleanor Roosevelt

Otoharo!

Rob, at the Breitenbush retreat two years ago, one of the reiki masters was sharing how she had cured herself of cancar. It was imspiring to hear how she did it. Her docter can not inderstand how she did it, but he saw that it was gone. she was not setting herself up as one who could heal another person's cancer, only her own.

finality

Hi Finality
Yes there are individual expieriances of cures being effected.
The example I use is of the author Brandon Bays. She used a awfull lot more than alternitive therapies thou. The main weapon was a good positive mental attitude and the desire to help her body help itself. She was lucky enough also to have access to around 5 or 6 hours a day treatments to shore her up, also the right diet, but the main thing was the power of her mind. Brandon Bays story is a very big inspiration to everyone (in my opinion). She showed that cancer needn't mean a death sentance.
The same can go for any disease or illness. If we let it defeat us it will. Any cure for anything must first of all start with our desire to beat it. Reiki or any other therapy supports us in our desire to beat it. The therapy is not always the cure.
My opinion anyway.

Namaste

Rob
Friendship with oneself is all-important, because without it one cannot be friends with anyone else in the world.
Eleanor Roosevelt

Rob, hi, namaste ....

Brandon Bays "The Journey" is very interesting, and the positive attitude she shows is all important. Cancer certainly does not necessarily mean a death sentence. I have seen seemingly miraculous healings.

But sometimes it does.

And those that do die, should not die thinking that they have been defeated, or feel that they have in some way failed. They may have led very positive lives, and done everything within their, and everyone else`s power to help them heal. But in that instance, perhaps it is their time to go.

If they have had therapies to help, it may well have helped them maintain a positive outlook, and helped them enjoy the time that they had here on earth. If that is so, then the therapies have had a positive, not a negative effect. And nobody should say "but I can cure you."

I have seen the devastation that such statements can produce, in some cases from so called alternative doctors, who first of all charge patients for batteries of tests amounting to intially over £600 from people who are desperate, and then continue to bombard patients with bizarre diets, which if they kept to, would basically starve them to death. The patients are pressured to keep to these regimes, and made to feel "bad" if they divert to a healthy intake. Meanwhile they have so called beneficial (highly expensive) injections of various substances. Because this gives them hope, they spend their last pound. But to what end?

One patient, who I knew well, managed to break out of the vicious cycle, leave the hospice where everybody thought she would die, and return to her loving family, who supported her in her last months of life. But if the so called "cancer healer" had had his way, she would have died from malnutrition, in the hospice, desperately trying to follow his instructions,which were alien to her body.

Rob,sometimes it is not a case of "if we let it defeat us, it will." Some people have every desire, genuinely, to live, and to everything in their power to do just that. But despite positive attitudes, and therapies, sometimes, they die. That is a fact of life ....

That is my opinion.

Love and light
philanty

Hi Philanty
Yes it was to broad a statement to make, "that if we let it deafeat us it will".
I know that my father (who didn't die of cancer) really fought death right to the end when he was given 3 days to live at most, he lasted 5 (I have inherited his stubborn streak LOL) No therapy or treatment was going to sustain beyond that point, his body just gave up and even convential treatment was becoming impossible because the dialysis that was keeping him going was getting more difficult because of the vasculer disease he had, that ment all of his viens were shrinking, making it near on impossible to get a needle into the vein.
He was recieveing Reiki right up to and including his passing and in one of his last lucid moments told the Docter that he had been cured. What was he cured of. His fear of death we like to think, but being stubborn he still held on.

I have recently met a very nice lady, who wasn't expected to go on for much longer in this life. She is fighting the cancer with everything she has, she is not out of the woods yet, but she is enjoying herself as much as she can. She does recieve a lot of reiki and is also taking other alternitive therapies to supplement conventional treatments.
Talk about sheer bloddy mindedness, she just isn't ready to pack it in yet, whereas she could just have said "well thats it".
I also had an Aunt, who so didn't want to give in and did have the right mental attitude but did finally succumb to the cancer.
Like my father when he went, it was her time.

Thank you for your insights. I do know that you have had more expieriance with cancer sufferers than many of us here have so to me (at least) they are valued.
Namaste

Rob
Friendship with oneself is all-important, because without it one cannot be friends with anyone else in the world.
Eleanor Roosevelt

Hi Rob,
A bit of "sheer bloody mindedness" goes a long way ... as you rightly say, if somebody says "well that`s that then", it probably will be.
In the UK, the Bristol Cancer centre is brilliant, they teach positive thinking, really support patients in all ways, encourage a vegan diet, and give loads of supportive therapies. All the people, without exception, that I know who have been there, reckon it is wonderful. But it IS very expensive, as it is private, and therefore, there are a lot of people unable to access that sort of facility.
That is where I think we can help, in that if we can offer services at rock bottom prices, or in some cases no charge at all, then we are filling a much needed gap - obviously not on the same scale, or with the same facilities as the Bristol Centre, but at least care lovingly offered, with time for people to offload a bit as well.
I am reading a book at the moment that shows that people with a sore throat responded better to a caring doctor who took some time with them, than with someone who flung antibiotics at them. :>}}
Love and light
philanty

finality,

/*\ Namaste :-}}

- we had one such case here in town - a woman friend - however, after a second and third opinion the disorder turned out not to be cancerous

- good for her

- not so good for those who want to claim cancer cures (whether self-cures or otherwise)

- and, of course, remissions are another matter

- and, I suppose, one could argue that if a person has a remission from cancer which is of sufficient duration that they die of something else (heart attack, stroke, etc) that the cancer was, in effect, cured (at least for the span of their life - since one cannot say if it would have returned had they lived more years)

>:-}}

Reiki All Around,

All Blessings,

Firekeeper

Firekeeper
You do bring up a good point, that of mis-diagnosise or in some case's diagnosise by someone not qualified to do so.
It is a sad fact, that in some cases, that a healer's ego can run riot and they try to obtain Guru status, bu curing all sorts of non exsistant problems. There have been cases repoerted in the press of this happeneing.
It is very easy to cure something that dosn't exsist, other than in the minds of the healer and then in the healee, if they are taken in by it.
There are however also documented case's of someone who has tumors getting rid of them and not by conventional medicine. As always these cases need to be examined to make sure they are genuine.

Namaste

Rob
Friendship with oneself is all-important, because without it one cannot be friends with anyone else in the world.
Eleanor Roosevelt

Rob,

/*\ Namaste :-}}

- yes, without independent, radiological evidence for the existence of and then disappearnce of tumors, for example, I am one who will likely be sceptical of any such claims or reports

- and if claims come from anyone other than the person to whom the claims refer (in the absence of verifiable radiological data)?? The reports are, of course, hearsay and must be treated as such

>:-}}

- if, for example, a woman tells me she has discovered a lump in her breast I will ask if the proper radiology has been done to ascertain its existence, etc and whether she has had a biopsy. If she does none of these things, goes away, and then returns sometime later on saying the lump is gone, what would you think\do?

- an open Question for any and all who have thoughts

>:-}}

- if she says she has the 'radiology' pictures done that confirms the lump but accepts no conventional treatments and then maybe weeks or months later says "pictures" show no lump - what would any of you think\do??

- this "tumor" scenario can be referring to anyone with any sort of tumor or other "measureable mass"

- of course, the whole business gets out of hand, so to speak (or perhaps literally), if one ranges beyond the Dense Body and begins to refer to such thngs as "attachments", etc.

>:-}}

Reiki All Around,

All Blessings,

Firekeeper