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Anyone ever read any of these?

Be

Otoharo!

Yes, Be, I read them as soon as they came out and was thoroughly enthralled, until the one about large crystals. That is when I found out this is fiction. So when you read, keep that in mind.

finality

I read everything.

I love novels and novels with some of energy, mystism, love, light, religion are right up my alley. Sometimes throw in romance and mystery. Yeah. One sentence that adds or expands my beliefs is a great thing.

This book "popped" out at me in the library.

Something in it I need to know!!!

Loving life.
Be

Hmmm... Lynn Andrews' books are entertaining, and may contain her "truth", but they are regarded as fraudulent by actual Native American shamans.

What can I say... not every book that brings us a little knowledge and inspiration has to be 100% politically correct. We are still allowed to have pleasure. Just so you know to take her information with a grain of salt!

cheers, happy reading anyway,
lunarreikin

Hello Dearest Be,
I love love love Lynns books.
Her book "woman of Wyyrd" most espiecailly got to my heart and soul. I'd get chills reading her materials and cry alot. The Wyyrd materials seemed to speak to me on a very deep level.

I know that such stories are probably tough to write about when sometimes words are insignificant next to the experience.

Not to take anything away from finality, or Lunareikin about the validity of their claims that her works are fiction, but I'd like to find out the source of these accusations against Lynn.
On her books, she says that only the names of people and some locations are kept private because of obvious reasons.
On another note, I'd like to personally write Lynn and ask her about that.
Sometimes I think people are jealous of someone that might have such a experience as Lynn writes of. Also I know that there are Native Americans who simply hate white people and any attempts they may have to "infilitrate" what they consider their exclusive right to that certain aspect of spirituality.
Makes me kind of sad because we have all been indians in one incarnation. To say someone can't be truly appreciative of the customs etc.. just because were white is like saying any nationality is (fill in blank here) because (fill in blank again).

Once again I am not saying the previous posters are jealous, or lying in some way. I would like to know the source of information that says Lynns books are fiction.

So you know be, the first book is Medicine woman and its great to start there because all the other books and the relationship she has with Ruby and Agnes start from here.
I have read all her books and love to reread them from time to time. Her works definately touch a place within me that remembers my lifetimes as an indian.

Enjoy!
Jahnavi

Jahnavi, during the late 80's when many of us were reading these books advidly, the spiritual group I was aligned with at that time, was Lazaris through Concept Synergy. So many questions were brought to him, Lazaris told us she made up things. I was suspicious when someone was astride a crystal which transported them to another world.

finality

Hey There honey, *Smiles**

Thanks for that viewpoint.
I am not too fond of Lazaris's works. I read one of his books and got a weird feeling first of all, and then I went to a website that was telling some long drawn out story of a woman who was involved with the group who I beileve killed heself..
I saw the big melt down recently that has developed due to some things in his group too.. Guess you never know.

I have read all the Lynn Andrews books and I don't recall anyone getting astride a crystal and riding it to another world.
But I'd say with her many internal-ceremonial travels, its possible she said that. :}
I would like to write to Lynn to hear her viewpoint on things.

There is a book that is called, something like upside down something.. that is a woman who goes to Austrailia and travels across the desert with some native peoples after they kinda abduct her.
The story was so touching, honest and beautiful that I cried whilst reading it at many points.

What I wonder when these amazing stories are told who it is that is saying their fake. Rumors are amazing. You know the ole adage that if you do a hundred good things and only one bad, you will hear about that first. Same thing I believe with stories when their algned with something as incredible as this.

I notice at times when people speak of incredible experiences, the first thing I do is go into doubt. Then I wonder how it is I myself can have some amazing experiences and I believe everything I remember!!
What i'm trying to convey is that when you have someone who doesn't even believe in this type of thing at all reading these books, there is bound to be rumors flying that her experiences aren't real.
Plus you actually get people that Only read these types of books to debunk them. There are people who believe psychics are not real, and go to great lengths to say how it is their predictions, or readings are just off the cuff and taylored to what the person is feeding them, body language etc.. What a bunch of hooey!! :}

I would like more than just a rumor of something being unreal before I make my final decision this and retell that as truth.

I get occassional newsletters from Lynns group and I'd love to write her and ask her officially if these works are fiction or not. For some reason, I don't believe they are.

I hope you don't feel like I"m being too hard on you cause I'm not trying to be. Just want to get to the truth, and see what comes of it.

Love and Light,
Jahnavi

Otoharo!

All power to you, Jahnavi. I fully enjoyed the books when I was reading them.

finality

Just read Women of the Wyyrd. I enjoyed it. I really don't care if it is fact or fiction. I had great meditation while reading. Peaked my interest in Astral travel again. Took a little trip.

The rituals in the book and the reverence for crystals, robes, chants and .... always fascinate me. I have never understood the need for all "attachments" to a spiritual endeavor. My belief is in intent in your mind/heart/soul will provide direction, protection and the ultimate goal. If we can keep our fear in prospective we can and do accomplish anything.

I will definitely pick up more of these books. Got any others I should read/inhale???

XOX
Be

I will pick up another one. I read constantly and some of the teachings

Hey honey,
So glad you enjoyed Woman of Wyyrd.. That one tore me up for some reason, don't know why I was so deeply affected. I guess it just seemed like the connection was so deep with the Grand Mother. Like a part of me remembered even if my conscious mind didnd't. It was almost painful, definately poignant.

I would highly suggest Lynns first book Medicine Woman. Then flight of the seventh moon, Jaguar Woman, Star Woman, Crystal Woman. There all such wonderful journeys, I am sure you will love them all. There are more of course, but I'd go with the earlier ones in the beginning to get a better background on her and Agnes and Ruby.

She even wrote Shakti Woman which was pretty wild, since she went into the future that time. That woman sure can write.

Try and second hand store, you can probably find lots of them there. Always nice to reread them and see how you have grown and the difference in your perceptions and thought process..

Love you, Jahnavi

Interesting discussion--

I guess for me, the question is, is the wisdom Agnes and Ruby share true, their deep speaking to my deep. Ruby once described addictions, any at all, as "soul-sleep" ... her words paralleled my experience so exactly, describing decades of immobility so perfectly that it could not be but *true* for me. The story of her rape, her blinding and her learning deer medicine make Ruby one of my greatest teachers.

Did it happen? Is she real?

To argue misses the point. The teaching is true, real and transforms -- for me, that is the test. Many of my greatest teachers: Ged, from the Earthsea trilogies, Danny and Reuven from Chaim Potok's "The Chosen" and "The Promise", Jim Casy from "Grapes of Wrath" have been as *teacher-friends* during my recovery from bipolar. And each is fictional. When I think of where Lynn was at in Medicine Woman and where she grows through the narratives, I always have hope for me -- and she, to her credit, is never afraid to present herself honestly: as white, clueless, blind to her great guides and teachers. My gift in the stories: is that I get to sit at the feet of Agnes and Ruby and not make a fool of myself as Lynn so often did.

Love to all.

Beau

Be,
The attatchments serve much the same purpose as the symbols......something to focus on while we become one with the energy vibration they have.

Have many stones and carry none. Have learned their vibration and call upon them when needed. Once placed unseen crystals at the crown and feet. Tapped them with an unseen stick......all in the room heard the stike.

Once you learn, you do not need the paraphenalia path.

Blessings to you
blackearth

I found these comments about Lynn Andrews books interesting as I never considered them fiction. However, Lazaris is strange to me and it seems humorous that people would take him seriously as well

Blessings,

Prosperity