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posted at 5/20/2005 3:31 PM |
ID# 84265
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fusionanomaly.net/antahkarana.html
Also, if you type in 'triskelion' at Yahoo Search you will see right at the top of the page that comes up a place to click "triskelion logo. Just follow that link
Cheers,
RC
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posted at 5/20/2005 4:32 PM |
ID# 84268 This is a reply to: 84265
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Dear Reikicurmudgeon,
Went to that site & the info is almost word for word what I have in my Reiki handbook from class. I wonder if it came from that site. :)
peace & joy,
holobon
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posted at 5/20/2005 4:56 PM |
ID# 84269 This is a reply to: 84268
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Holobon,
Hi.
My first wonder is what that symbol is doing in a Reiki handbook?
:)
As for being essentially word for word from the website? Hey, students download entire term papers from obscure sites in the hopes that they won't be discovered. I wonder if school systems or universities hire folks to search the internet for such unethical and lazy shenanigans or outright illegal behavior? Or whether it is left to teachers and professors to sort that out?
Cheers (sharpened red pencils at the ready)
RC
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posted at 5/20/2005 6:40 PM |
ID# 84271 This is a reply to: 84268
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Thats zactly my point.
This is the same information passed to me by my RM.
So where is the origin.
Aside from the theosophical sites (which all quote the same deffinitions in their glossaries abd do not mention the symbol) I have found little information. I did find referance on a yoga site. But it is very similar and only mentions the antahkarana as a vehicle. No metion of a symbol.
So where in blazes did this symbol come from?
Knowing the source might shed some new light. :)
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posted at 5/20/2005 6:42 PM |
ID# 84272 This is a reply to: 84269
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I have heard tell (in hushed tones of course) that there is a program that searches for near and exact plagarism from web sites. May have been on 60 minutes or one of the other news shows.
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posted at 5/20/2005 10:27 PM |
ID# 84277 This is a reply to: 84271
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Suzette,
Hi.
As I said, the Triskeliion is quite similar - it is possible the Triskelion preceded the Antahkarana so perhaps researching the Triskelion might yield some other sources.
It also struck me, looking at the Antahkarana (or angular Triskelion) that it is a three-legged version of the swastika which is alleged to have been in use in China and elsewhere at least 3000 years before the christian era so predates the Ankh in Egypt as well
Does this get you closer to a source? Hard to say. You will have to do the research I guess. But remember, it is only a symbol and has no inherent 'powers'. Power comes from Intention and attribution.
Cheers,
RC
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posted at 5/20/2005 11:02 PM |
ID# 84281 This is a reply to: 84277
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Rightieo RC
I am not a big symbols user (yet?) My preivious work with symbols has all be based on wicca. Even then I never really felt drawn (no pun intended) to use symbols. I guess because to me, right or wrong, my view had always been that learning a symbol (standing in for something else) was just something more to learn. Keeping the orginal intention behind the symbols seemed enough.
But that was then this is now.
I had noticed the similarity with the sawstika too.
It is also used by some native american tribes. If I remember my PBS history Himiler actually introduced the swastika based on the native american tradition.
But I amy NOT remember that correctly.
:)
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posted at 5/21/2005 7:25 AM |
ID# 84282 This is a reply to: 84265
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My Understanding of the Abntahkarana symbol used in reiki is that it is from Alice Bailey chnneled from her Tibetain guide.
It is used in William Rands Tibetain Reiki. The Rand manual, of which I have photcopies of the atahkarana stuff does say this.
My own first expierience of the idea of it was as a bridge to the higher chakras, but then like so many things infomation fromone source does contridict info from another one.
Rand does give 2 versions of the symbol. One male the other female. It seems strange to me that most masters when using it only use one or the other and not both. To me for balance both should be used (If of course you use it at all)
Namaste
Rob
Truth is not a property of language because language has not been able to express abstract ideas as efficiently as concrete items
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posted at 5/21/2005 8:30 AM |
ID# 84283 This is a reply to: 84282
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Rob,
Hi.
I do not a priori jump on the bandwagon that simply because a Reiki practitioner 'channels' a symbol' that it is meant for Reiki.
:)
I also accept the proposition that such 'channelings" may well be intances involving cryptamnesia since the 'information' or material channeled has already long been known. A little deviation in form stylization, to me, does not constitute 'something new'.
;)
Do I accept the notion of 'psychic piracy'? Definitely.
Cheers,
RC
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posted at 5/21/2005 9:31 AM |
ID# 84287 This is a reply to: 84269
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Dear Reikicurmudgeon,
Oh, dont get me going on that subject!! :) My soapbox might show.....
peace & joy,
holobon
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posted at 5/22/2005 9:35 AM |
ID# 84307 This is a reply to: 84283
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Hi RC
yep I agree.
Like I say I don't use it although trained in that tradition.
Then I am not a great lover of add ins to reiki (LOL).
I do think that it's use in reiki might be done with people not really understanding it. it does nothing for me, so I stay away from it.
Namaste
Rob
Truth is not a property of language because language has not been able to express abstract ideas as efficiently as concrete items
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posted at 5/22/2005 7:12 PM |
ID# 84308 This is a reply to: 84307
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I was reflecting on the intent behind the symbol and it seems to me (the nonattuned initiate) that the Reiki attunment actually serves much of the same purpose as the Antahkarana (as bridge between brain and higher self).
Just speculating :)
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posted at 5/23/2005 1:01 AM |
ID# 84315 This is a reply to: 84308
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Suzette,
Hi.
For myself I would try not to confuse the "process" of an atunement with the symbols that might be used. This may be especially true in Reiki practices as Usui Sensei presumeably only began using symols and "attunements" when, for some students and initiates, he needed an alternative to the Rei-ju. It is speculated that some students did not respond to the Rei-ju so well and that it was at this point that Usui Sensei may have gone on his legendary 21 day retreat in the mountains during which time the symbols we now know as the traditional Reiki symbols "came to him", as one might say.
Cheers,
RC
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posted at 6/1/2005 7:04 AM |
ID# 84468 This is a reply to: 84265
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There is a snippet of info on the Reiki.org site;
http://www.spiritualone.com/WebStore/HealingArt.html
You can also view pictures of the symbol, including male and female versions of it.
Interesting that I found a printed version of this symbol under my mattress this morning when I decided to turn it over. Must be under there nearly a year! Then today I came across the messages posted about it here! Sycronisity, a wonderful thing. :o)
Love and Light,
Evie
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posted at 6/1/2005 7:31 AM |
ID# 84469 This is a reply to: 84468
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