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Link for Whatever

posted at 4/6/2006 6:40 AM
ID# 91200
If you can believe in this, it may help


http://www.nde-paradigm.com

Best wishes,
Roxy

re: Link for Whatever

posted at 4/6/2006 7:14 PM
ID# 91222
This is a reply to: 91200
Thanks Roxy :) I just browsed the place, looks very interesting. :)

Blessings,
Whatever

re: Link for Whatever

posted at 4/7/2006 8:34 AM
ID# 91239
This is a reply to: 91222
Anytime, Whatever.

I found it very interesting, too. I read it through throughly. It really helped me see what's what. The only thing is these days, scientists are too quick to dismiss these things as "halllucinations". Don't believe them.

Best wishes,
Roxy

re: Link for Whatever

posted at 4/7/2006 1:17 PM
ID# 91248
This is a reply to: 91239
As Firekeeper would say, one view is that the whole of science is one massive hallucination connected to the illusory world we live in. ;-)

I can see a lot of similarities with the teachings of the Course in Miracles to be honest. There is a link to the text online if anyone 's interested. I 'm not posting it here cause I 'm not sure if it breaks copyright law or not.


Blessings,
Whatever

re: Link for Whatever

posted at 4/7/2006 5:32 PM
ID# 91257
This is a reply to: 91248
Illusory World? If that's so, I'm kind of enjoying it, anyway.

:-)

Blessings on your path.

Roxy

PS

posted at 4/7/2006 5:41 PM
ID# 91258
This is a reply to: 91257
Another thing that may interest you, if you haven't seen it yet, is the movie "What the Bleep Do We Know'.

Love,
Roxy

What the Bleep . . . .

posted at 4/7/2006 10:50 PM
ID# 91259
This is a reply to: 91258

roxyart said on

>Another thing that may interest you, if you haven't seen it yet, is the movie "What the Bleep Do We Know'.
>
>Love,
>Roxy

A couple of things about the movie.

1) Speakers in the movie seemed to say that the uncertainty principle means some sort of individual freedom on a macroscopic level. It doesn't, and anyone who's ever studied any quantum physics knows that it doesn't.

2) Emoto's experiments w/ water are provocative. But it turns out that he doesn't use a double-blind protocol, and his experiments leave lots of room for bias in the selection of which water crystals are "representative" of the influence of which words.

Bruce

re: What the Bleep . . . .

posted at 4/8/2006 12:29 AM
ID# 91262
This is a reply to: 91259
bruce,

Hi,

I tend to agree. The movie was entertaining for about 30 minutes; then became little more than pop, new-age perverted quantum whohah.

Cheers,

RC

re: What the Bleep . . . .

posted at 4/8/2006 7:10 AM
ID# 91264
This is a reply to: 91262
Dear Bruce and RC,

I frankly never saw the movie, having read so much on Modern Physics independently (and hope to reread since I've gotten so rusty). I may have the wrong idea of what the movie is exactly like.

But I do think it's a good idea for all of us to find someway to contemplate the new Universe view.

Best wishes,
Roxy

re: What the Bleep . . . .

posted at 4/8/2006 8:36 AM
ID# 91266
This is a reply to: 91259
Bruce,
Are the words the speakers in the movie say correct and the way it was put together & edited "misleading" or is what they say not based on current accepted theory ? ( Im not a scientist, so please speak down :)
I could not understand why they used such loud & annoying music in this movie.

peace & joy,
holobon

re: What the Bleep . . . .

posted at 4/8/2006 2:07 PM
ID# 91279
This is a reply to: 91266
Hi, Holobon,

It's been over a year since I saw the movie, but I remember that at least a couple of the speakers said things that were flatly misleading about quantum theory. For some of the other speakers, it might have been the editing rather than the content of what they said, but I'm not sure.

Bruce

holobon said on

>Bruce,
>Are the words the speakers in the movie say correct and the way it was put together & edited "misleading" or is what they say not based on current accepted theory ? ( Im not a scientist, so please speak down :)
>I could not understand why they used such loud & annoying music in this movie.
>
>peace & joy,
>holobon

re: What the Bleep . . . .

posted at 4/8/2006 4:37 PM
ID# 91286
This is a reply to: 91264
roxy,

Hi,

Contemplate? Yes, Yes!!! Generate thought. And it is precisely the phenomenon of thought with which quantum mechanics seems unable to properly deal; let alone the movie in question in which the phenomenon of thought is never adressed. The folks in that movie are all 'followers', for lack of a better word, of the woman who claims herself some sort of channel and who apparently was the impetus for the movie; so the view presented is rather skewed to say the least.

Cheers,

RC

re: What the Bleep . . . .

posted at 4/8/2006 5:14 PM
ID# 91288
This is a reply to: 91286
Dear RC,

Yes, I went to the movie website, and found it was entirely diffent than what I had imagined it. I wish there was a way to show the differences in science and mysicism overlapping without the pop stuff.

It's interesting to realize that Albert Einstein was a believer in God, as in "God does not play dice with the Universe".

Best wishes,
Roxy

re: What the Bleep . . . .

posted at 4/10/2006 12:39 PM
ID# 91330
This is a reply to: 91288
roxy,

Hi,

Well, even Einstein has been shown to have been incorrect on a number of matters.

:)

Cheers,

RC

re: Link for Whatever

posted at 4/10/2006 10:52 PM
ID# 91365
This is a reply to: 91200
thanks for posting this......i am enjoying it alot,
feather