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I've come to realize that giving in to someone in order to please him or her works in some cases. However, I also see that it is more important than we acknowledge some of the info we receive. Hence, we learn and incorporate info from outside sources with our own knowledge and go into active mode; Doing things that we have come an understanding of the concepts behind the changes we make/maked. So as we proceed in life we will also have embraced morality on bigger scales.

I also learnt not to give any chance to ourselves and others to carry out immoral deeds in anyway or in time span. I meant to say that we will soon have to be fully disciplined or we may find ourselves incapable of withdrawing our permission to allow for occassional mischief at any given time in the later stage/years.

I only said all these cause I know that I have personally failed to totally forgo bad habits. I also wish others to not follow the same path as those who have found that old habits return in full swing while they (bad habits) looked like long lost pals.

wishing all a focused and meaningful times ahead
Starjasmine

Learning from others choices is a great part of our learning. Gives us the opportunity to see what can happen to use before we try a new choice.....examples of how to be and how not to be. Accepting the lesson demonstrated is always up to us.

Old habits are hard to overcome. We tend to think that if we work on our mind/will/ego, we will be able to break old habits. This works until we meet old stressers or things that we associate with our habit. The body...all the cells within, remembers. Our body can call us back to the habit as easily as our mind/will/ego. Think of all the things that you have learrned to do. You worked hard at leaning them. Now they come naturally. You don't think how to put on your clothes. You pick a shirt up and just automatically put it on. Our habits are like that. For permanent change we must clear the body of its attachment to the habit.

Blessings to you
blackearth

Otoharo!

Starjasmine, I hope I am following your meaning. My only comment is that we can not interfere when others seem to be following immoral deeds and ways. That is their choice. We, too, have free choice. And I have noticed that our thought materialize quicker now, so we see the results of our choices right before our eyes sometimes!

finality

If i'm correct in you saying there is a difference between believing something is true and then knowing and embracing this concept from experience then I agree.

Knowledge is just knowledge if one never applies what they learn then really it's wasted other than being a waypoint for someone else to acquire this tidbit.It's not simply enough just to know.

As for falling back into bad habits. Don't be so hard on yourself for it. Perhaps the reason you fell back into a bad habit is so that you can truly see that this is no longer you. Think about how you feel now after the fact as opposed to how you used to feel after falling into this bad habit. It is called habit for a reason. And often it's easy to fall back into something regardless of the habit because it's familiar ground even if we know it's not right in our Way or who we are any longer. The new changed reaction just illustrates this for us so that we can see how much apart from the mindset of the habit we have become.

Starjasmine,

/*\ Namsate :-}}

- acceding to a reasonable request is not necesarily "giving in"

- saying 'No' to an unreasonable (or immoral, illegal, etc) request is not being 'uncooperative'

>:-}}

- each case may be an instance of very appropriate 'assertive' behavior'

>:-}}

- yes, to act against one's moral and ethical codes (and better judgements) does everyone (including the Universe) a disservice

Reiki all around,

all blessings,

firekeeper

Thanks very much for sharing. I was talking about encouraging others to go with the "less moral" (in the viewer's mind) deeds. I would not wish to see myself not giving hint to others that there may be better and more reasonable solutions to those that they choose.
After that, they make their own way and I stay out of any "dark" deeds or ideas.

starjasmine :)

many thanks and I look forward to seeing great chances and thoughts that are peaceful in nature.....

Hi conflagration, since I've not reply to your post for quite some time and have yet to read more in depth, I would like to thanks you for the warm reply.

I accept your views. They do add more dimensions to the original topics. I do hope to see us all move forward together towards as more open minded spirits/souls that learns and evolves ... and finally regain our "former glory".

"cheers" as we venture to/from our land of paradise that we create ourselves.

starjasmine

firekeeper,
Thanks for decoding my post. Your advice is great and shows much wisdom.

Please keep the camp fire going while we sit around it and keep warm and chat happily (with lots of ":-)"s )

hope you don't my style of expression and with the borrowing of your user name.

starjasmine

starjasmine,

/*\ Namaste :-}}

- most kind

- no worries about the rest

- one of the things we do for sweat lodges is those sitting the sweat will each bring at least one piece of firewood with which to stoke the fire that heats the rocks for the sweat (this works equally well with group campfires)

>:-}}

- take care,

Reiki all around,

all blessings,

Firekeeper

Thanks firekeeper....
I'll remember to add a log or two to the campfire....

starjasmine :)

Hi Starjasmine,

Being objective.
Extending uncondtional love.
Owning our own projections.
Acknowledging "others" projections.

To me, these are the keys to living authentically.

As far as "bad" habits. I suppose that is subjective. What I may think is a bad habit may not seem so bad to another. I think there are degrees in which our inner adult is a little harsh on the inner child. And discipline is not necessarily the best case scencario for me.

I try and find a balance. When my inner adult or "doer" is too caught up in it's accomplishment mode, or, when my inner child "player" is too caught up in it's lack of responsibility mode, I compassionately approach them as a mediator. I recognize their attributes, and supposed "bad habits", but instead of judging or setting strick rules, I objectively "acknowlege" their needs or preferences, and offer balance.

Being a Libra, and an empath, my energy can get out of balance if I am not mindful of both exterior (other's projecions) and interior (inner adult/child) push and pulls.

What I have learned in my studies and continued self discovery is that life is pretty simple if we keep love and objectivity in the forefront. The rest just falls into place.

Much Love,

Kimberlee

starjasmine said on

>I've come to realize that giving in to someone in order to please him or her works in some cases. However, I also see that it is more important than we acknowledge some of the info we receive. Hence, we learn and incorporate info from outside sources with our own knowledge and go into active mode; Doing things that we have come an understanding of the concepts behind the changes we make/maked. So as we proceed in life we will also have embraced morality on bigger scales.
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> I also learnt not to give any chance to ourselves and others to carry out immoral deeds in anyway or in time span. I meant to say that we will soon have to be fully disciplined or we may find ourselves incapable of withdrawing our permission to allow for occassional mischief at any given time in the later stage/years.
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> I only said all these cause I know that I have personally failed to totally forgo bad habits. I also wish others to not follow the same path as those who have found that old habits return in full swing while they (bad habits) looked like long lost pals.
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> wishing all a focused and meaningful times ahead
>Starjasmine

I enjoyed reading your post Kimberly. Although the unconditional love for me is pretty easy among strangers. It's with people I know that it's more difficult as there is that awareness of flaws and history that goes with closer relationships, resentments, expectations, etc.
I liked your views on balance. thanks,

peace,
prosperity

Hi Prosperity,

I understand what you are saying about having history and knowledge of one's "flaws" when you know someone pretty well.

For example. In my family, I have observed particular patterns of behavior in both my Mom, my two sisters and my brother-in-laws. It's as if I can see things coming like a well read script in a play.

But knowledge is power. Knowing the so called flaws of another allows you to be even more objective and forgiving. I accept them where they are and I love them for who they are regardless. What helps me by having this knowledge ahead of time, is that I can "foresee" where things are going, step in as a mediator, and help them see eachothers point of view without getting into emotional warefare. It ends up being a win-win for everyone. I don't take sides, I just help them manuever from a compassionate understanding mode rather than attack-mode.

I hope this helps in some way.

Love,
Kimberlee

Hi kimberlee and prosperity,

thanks for the contribution.

I'm glad that you have your keys to being practical and graceful person.

Starjasmine

personal reabsorbed thoughts/observations data:
I was thinking that a single word (within certain contexts) can carry so many meanings for many people. We may tend to speak within certain contexts throughout time. We "have" our "preferred" expressions and responses. By acknowledging that we tend to have particular habits/choices in how we choose our vocabulary and meanings within our sentence structures; we can better communicate and accommadate our extendable meanings/ intentions.....

We don't really have one definite meaning for almost exact sentences (from a number of similar minds). Due to the use of inflections and the complexity of our communication systems; there will always be added/varied intentions, guesses (uncertainty in opinions), requests and statements associated to very similar sentences.

I learnt to second or third "guesses" or interprete contexts of situations (or events) and "allow" for possible attachments to thoughts etc (that results in certain behaviours...). This is obtained through being in connect/encounter with "ambiguity" in all that we do or percieve. As well as any mysteries that are around...

On occassions, regardless of frequency of occurrences, we "observe" the same point. Yet, we may add something else to a single point. This means we will be circulating accumulated info.

"Ultimately", acknowledgments of the fact that we can benefit by being "compassionate/tolerant", thirst to learn/change and ablity to let go may results in many wonderful times ahead.
[further explaination: compassionate => to help us accomodate all thoughts; then choose our response with our holy and wholesome self
"learning" => for further improvements
"letting go" => we have very little obstacles. ]

I guess do sound like a teacher of some sort. But then we learn and teach again and again ..... :) :(

;)
As for disclipline in life. I refer to the word in term of wholelistic self maintenance and the will to self correct. I'm sure that we are not very random in our patterns and methods of accomplishing tasks. For me, I can be very enthusiastic today and then idly the next day. I think that certain formats of disclipline help to provide some consistency that later on aid in the making of a more organized and kind heartedness personality.

Of course, there will still be compassion, learning and letting go of the cling on personalities while discipline sit in its rightful place :)

all the best in individualized revolution and beyond....

Starjasmine

Otoharo!

Kimberley, this posting took place when my computer was out so I have missed it. I like your viewpoint.

finality

Otoharo!

starjasmine, I am following what you are saying. My firend and I watch what we say and whether the words we use carry the meaning to the other person, and see-saw back and forth so that we clearly understand each other in every conversation. Becasue of the connotations we have for words.

finality

Hi Finality!

Thanks for the kind words ;o)

Kimberlee