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DIY Reiki research

posted at 8/17/2005 6:53 PM
ID# 86180
Greetings,
My understanding of an aspect of reiki is that water can be "reiki-ed" before drinking it with beneficial results. If this is true, I'm interested in creating my own double-blind experiment involving plants to "measure" the effectiveness of reiki water vs. nonreiki water. Does anyone else have interest in this? I recieved a Reiki I (usui) certificate and will take level II this fall. I have had positive experiences with treating people, but would like to know unequivocally whether the alleged transmission of reiki concurs with reality upon closer inspection.
I plan to create the experiment myself but would welcome any suggestions.
thank you,
Abby

re: DIY Reiki research

posted at 8/17/2005 8:44 PM
ID# 86184
This is a reply to: 86180

Hi Abby
I have recently seen some pictures of a tomato that was cut in half, with one half given daily reiki and the other not.
The half that was not reikied did go mouldy a lot quicker.
Namaste

Rob
Truth is not a property of language because language has not been able to express abstract ideas as efficiently as concrete items

re: DIY Reiki research

posted at 8/17/2005 10:13 PM
ID# 86189
This is a reply to: 86180
abby,
chech out the movie "what the bleep do we know" and/or the website - that should give you some ideas regarding water.
also, design your experiment very carefully - make sure that it is a "double blind" type and be certain to control as many variables as you can.
same intent, same amount of reiki, etc.
also be sure to word the intent so that it affects just what you want - even if this is done you may get some "spillage" since we are more of a pipeline rather than a control system (i hope that i'm not getting off track).

anyway abby, sounds very interesting and i wish you the best of luck. please post your results.

reiki all around
ray

re: DIY Reiki research

posted at 8/18/2005 9:31 AM
ID# 86196
This is a reply to: 86180
Abby,

Hi.

In a double-blind experiment the "experimenter" does not know which subjects get the "treatment" and which get the placebo and which are no-treatment controls. Also, the subjects, of course, do not know into which group they have been randomly assigned: Treatment, Placeco, Control (I assume you will have all three groups)

Having said all that, I might observe that since plants will not know ahead of time anything you might be doing the idea of double-blind seems somehow moot.

The only conditions you might consider is to have someone else water the plants with the various waters, not telling you which are which, of course. Have that person keep a record of which plants get which water (a record you do not look at, of course, until the experiment is completed) and then see if you can correctly judge the ones with the 'reikied water' (make your judgements before looking at the watering record, of course)

;)

Keep in mind that soil and light conditions and amount of water received must be as "egual" for all plants as possible and the plants must be of the same type.

Myself? I simply do distance reiki on my plants to boost root system health and fertilize occasionally.

Good luck.

Cheers (elephant manure on top)

RC

re: DIY Reiki research

posted at 8/18/2005 9:36 AM
ID# 86197
This is a reply to: 86180
I would suggest: you Reiki the water, someone else (non-Reiki person) water the plants. That way your Reiki will not be able to effect the water during the test. Water must be from the same source, same amounts and watering timetable. Also the same type of plant.......maybe even plant 2 bean seeds (again...keep your Reiki contact minimal). Do not spend much time with the plants. Your contact and interest will be responded to by the plants.

If you want a good read.......The Secret Life of Plants will give you an education on how plants think and communicate. This info would help you set up a real double blind test. Maybe even let someone else raise the plants with little contact.....set on window sill and just water.

My jungle of plants wish you well on your experiment.
blackearth

re: DIY Reiki research

posted at 8/18/2005 1:57 PM
ID# 86201
This is a reply to: 86197
Hi all,
Thank you so much for suggestions and advice. Yes, I had planned to reiki the water, and then have someone else water the plants without my knowing which was which. Then I planned to measure the growth of each plant with a ruler or whatever, maybe do a leaf count or something. I would tell the waterer not to talk to the plants, just water them and leave. So now comes the harder part for me, to minimize all other variables as much as I can. Ideally I would like to repeat the experiment a number of times to get a good quantity of data. I thought of a window sill, but maybe there's different light exposure as the season goes on? I really wish I had a lab, and then I would conduct this study with bacteria in petri dishes instead of plants. Interesting to hear about the tomato halves. Is that an experiment you saw online? I also have heard of the secret life of plants book, perhaps now I will read it. Anyhow, I will post results if I get past the initial inspiration of the idea and make it to the action part of it all :)
abby

re: DIY Reiki research

posted at 8/18/2005 2:24 PM
ID# 86202
This is a reply to: 86201
abby,

/*\ Namaste :-}}

- if these are going to be indoor plants then a grow light might work - to keep light exposure the same for all 'subjects'

>:-}}

Reiki All Around,

All Blessings,

Firekeeper

re: DIY Reiki research

posted at 8/19/2005 1:18 AM
ID# 86207
This is a reply to: 86201
hi, great idea!

i concur with everyone, and with firekeeper about a grow-light. a good experiment would provide identical conditions for the different groups. maybe put them in a special area with a thick curtain to block off other light sources.

also, perhaps you might consult with a biologist or agronomist, depending on the plant, to determine the acceptable criteria for what constitutes normal growth under the chosen conditions, and what constitutes above-average and under-average growth. this saves trying to personally judge later whether a millimetre or two is significant or not, that could let in bias. also, if you know the variety and its habits, then you can better judge whether, say, new bud growth is typical or extraordinary for it at this time of the year. your local college, city works department, or nursery may have someone who would participate, or you might find someone online. perhaps you might even find a collaborator.

also, i agree that repeating the experiment at a later date is a good thing, as once is not a well-accepted number for establishing credible results, just in case the one experiment shows extreme results in one area or another.

good luck -- experiment design doesn't need to be elaborate, just well-thought out, and good on you for asking.

lunarreikin

re: DIY Reiki research

posted at 8/19/2005 10:03 AM
ID# 86210
This is a reply to: 86207
my dearest lunarreikin,

/*\ Namaste :-}}

- does this seem like a can of 'reiki worms' has been openned??

bagl

Reiki All Around,

All Blessings,

Firekeeper

re: DIY Reiki research

posted at 8/19/2005 10:21 AM
ID# 86212
This is a reply to: 86210
Well, as every good gardener knows.......the more worms, the better.

I would take pictures of the plants. Maybe have them in more than one location.......under grow lights in more than one house. Plant growth and health can be checked by the thickness of the stems, leaf color, leaf growth and root system.

blackearth

re: DIY Reiki research

posted at 8/19/2005 10:55 AM
ID# 86214
This is a reply to: 86212
blackearth,

/*\ Namaste :-}}

- I was, of course, speaking 'metaphorically'?

>:-}}

- you said, in part: "Well, as every good gardener knows.......the more worms, the better"

- that is, it seems, largely an 'olde gardner's tale'

>:-}}

- or myth, if you like

>:-}}

- among other things worms attract burrowing critters that like to eat them - and some of these critters also will eat plant roots or damage them with their burrowing

>:-}}

Reiki All Around,

All Blessings,

Firekeeper

re: DIY Reiki research

posted at 8/19/2005 1:30 PM
ID# 86219
This is a reply to: 86210

indeed, a can of 'reiki worms' has been opened, but they're making for the open bags of compost found nearly everywhere, and thus the compost too will eventually be 'reikied', and home for new crops of reiki worms ripe for canning. such is the metaphorical, mythological, and metaphysical power of the internet.

namaste, with a slightly bent bagl on top,

lunarreikin

re: DIY Reiki research

posted at 8/19/2005 1:51 PM
ID# 86220
This is a reply to: 86219
lunarreikin,

/*\ Namaste :-}}

- yes, those reiki worms are welcome in my reiki composte piles but I prefer them not to be in my reiki flower beds

>:-}}

- if they get in there I ask all my reiki robin relations to come have a reiki-worm feast (after I have reiki-watered the beds, of course)

>:-o}}

Reiki All Around,

All Blessings,

Firekeeper

re: DIY Reiki research

posted at 8/21/2005 1:38 AM
ID# 86269
This is a reply to: 86220

firekeeper said on

>lunarreikin,
>
>/*\ Namaste :-}}
>
>- yes, those reiki worms are welcome in my reiki composte piles but I prefer them not to be in my reiki flower beds
>
>>:-}}
>
>- if they get in there I ask all my reiki robin relations to come have a reiki-worm feast (after I have reiki-watered the beds, of course)
>
>>:-o}}
>
>Reiki All Around,
>
>All Blessings,
>
>Firekeeper


firekeeper,

can you document all that for posterity and science? in triplicate, or course. with your permission, if you like, i can reikify (!) the forms remotely.

reikily yours,
lunarreikin

re: DIY Reiki research

posted at 8/21/2005 10:25 AM
ID# 86271
This is a reply to: 86269
lunarreikin,

/*\ Namaste :-}}

- why would I wish to record it in triplicate for "science"?????

bagl

- as for posterity? if any of my grandchildren wish to learn these 'secrets' - bagl - that is posterity enough for me

>:-}}

Reiki All Around,

All Blessings,

Firekeeper

re: DIY Reiki research

posted at 9/4/2005 1:59 PM
ID# 86647
This is a reply to: 86180
Hi sorry for the late posting
I hope you are well

Dr. Masaru Emoto has done research on water and more specifically water crystals and the effects of thoughts and energy on them.

you might find his work interesting and it might interlace nicely with your ideas.

if you just google his name you should be good
or email me I have links to his website

namaste
patrick