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Otoharo!

Some of you have read my story. If so, you know that I began my life with the intention of exploring this thing called ego which primative human beings had that I did not have and had only recently heard about. i wanted to k now first hand what ego was about. That was probably 20,000 years ago. I have been exploring since, having gotten stuck in it, like Brer Rabbit

You do not have an ego. You simply use THE ego and you place it in your intellect. Its original purpose was to be your assistant. You were the boss, it was your servant. It is superb at counting! If you ever want to dismiss the ego in your intellect for some reason, you tell it to go to his room and count beans. It will do that. and report back to you how many beans you have!

Due to certain events that happened to the ego, it has turned negative and antagonistic. It sneaks around you. It sets traps for you to fall into . It sets out lures to catch you up in. For instance, fear is a lure. If it can cause you to fear anything, even a little bit, it heightens the fear, causes a repetition of whatever events are currently creating fear for you. You just can't get that fear out of your head! That is ego. You are the boss. You stop and say with firmness, "No, go to your room and count beans."

If you can actually accomplish this, you will begin to separate yourself, your identity from ego. You are not the ego. But very likely, you can not distinguish between you and the ego. Anyway, I could not.

Today, for instance, as I have reported, I am on a roll. I was experiencing this transcendance and right in the middle of it, i envisioned pulling out all my roots from where I had rooted in third demension, and there came an interruption and an emotion of sadness began to come over me like wash. I suddenly caught on. "No, ego. Go to your room, Count beans." Had I let that emotion rule me I would have lost my transcendence in that moment. I would now be back in my old ruts, and fourth dimension would have to happen another time.

It is like one is a fish in a huge pond of life, and ego sets out his fishing lines with great colorful, entrieging lures.

Other lures besides fear, are recurring anger, recurring thought processes, any mental imagine that just keeps recurring to you, especially if it tears you apart. Pain, agony, despondence, withdrawal. All these are ego lures.

finality

Dear Finality,
Read this after your other post on Ego on the other board. Again, what you describe appears similiar to the concept of the Devil. Even more interesting is the resemblance between what you wrote in this post about Ego & the belief that the Devil was originally an Angel that fell from it's exulted spot in Heaven. The Angel served God and you say the Ego was originally our servant & we were the boss. But then things changed. "It sneaks around you. It sets traps for you to fall into . It sets out lures to catch you up in. For instance, fear is a lure. If it can cause you to fear anything, even a little bit, it heightens the fear, causes a repetition of whatever events are currently creating fear for you. You just can't get that fear out of your head!"
Makes you wonder if beliefs are all that contrary once they are pared down to their roots.

peace & joy,
holobon

finality,

/*\ Namaste :-}}

- you have described a lot of how you think we interact with an Ego (or how it somehow might act on its own) but you have not told us "what" is the Ego.

>:-}}

- and, another view would say that it is not possible to "separate" oneself from Ego as one might amputate a gangrenous foot

>:-}}

- Ego, strangely enough, is quite capable of handling compassionate living

>:-}}

Reiki All Around,

All Blessings,

Firekeeper

Has anyone tried using Reiki or anything else on the ego or any core ego positions like fear, anger survival etc. What were the results?

Personally I think Ego is one of the things which delays those who wish to wake up..

capri,

Yawn, yawn!

Hi.

Ego helps us with grasping and aversion. Ego helps us desire more and more, reject things we do not desire (or that others desire or have), andsoforth. Ego has a lot to do with all the samsaric mental constructs that plague the dualistic minds of most people. Some say Ego is just another mental construct 'invented' by the dualistic mind to perpetuate Illusion. However, it may also be that one cannot "wake up" in the complete absence of Ego. Some will say that if one has no Ego, one is dead.

Cheers,

RC

Otoharo!

Obviously we are talking about different things. there are far more humans throughout the Universe of Universes who have never heard of an ego than there are those who have ego. As I understand it, only on earth has ego ever existed.

finality

Ego runs your mind. It’s the dream most of us are living in.

An emotion is the body’s reaction to your mind. What message is the body receiving continuously from the ego, the false mind-made state? I am under threat. And what is the emotion generated from this continuous message? Fear of course.

Fear seems to have many causes. Fear of loss, fear of failure, fear of being hurt, and so on, but ultimately all fear is the ego’s fear of death, of annihilation. To ego death is always just around the corner. In this mind identified state, fear of death affects every aspect of your life.

The ego cannot afford to be wrong – to be wrong is to die. This generates a compulsive need to be right in an argument & make the other person wrong defending the mental position with which you have identified – is due to a fear of death. If you identify with a mental position and you are wrong then your mind based sense of self is seriously threatened with annihilation, so you as ego can’t afford to be wrong. To be wrong is to die. Wars have been fought over this and countless relationships have broken down.

If you disidentified from your mind, whether you are right or wrong makes no difference to your sense of self. So the need to be right, which is a form of violence, will no longer be there. You can state clearly and firmly how you think but there will be no aggression or defensiveness about it. Your sense of self is then derived from a deeper and truer place within yourself, not from the mind. Watch out for defensiveness within yourself. What are you defending? An illusionary identity, an image of your mind, a fictitious entity. By making this pattern conscious, by witnessing it, you disidentify from it. In the light of your consciousness, the unconscious pattern will quickly dissolve. This is the end of all arguments and power games which are so corrosive to relationships. Power over others is weakness disguised as strength. True power is within. The more you identify with your mind the more you will suffer.

Most of the above is from Eckhart Tolle

Michael

capri,

Hi.

Ego does not run the mind. That sounds like the projections of someone very caught up in him\herself. Sometimes, though I feel we let Ego have a fairly free reign becasue it is the lazy way out. In many respects humans love short-cuts or the way that seems "pain free". LOL

Ego is not gifted with great mindfulness or compassion. To be mindful takes effort and "practice". To be compassionate takes putting ego and self-gratification (which includes avoidance of fear and anxiety reduction) aside in favor of the welfare of another.

Ego is a mental construct, no more. Ego is an Illusion though the way we hang on to the construct seems to make it 'real' for us.

Cheers,

RC

Firekeeper, yes I did tell you what it is. It is a function one uses in the intellect. It is a pattern created by those called Life Carriers in the Urantia Book. Life Carriers are the ones who initate life on a new planet. Thye are permitted to experiment on each decimal planet. Ours is a decimal planet. So they chose to experiment with this pattern that individuals could use to program their intellect. It would have worked most likely had I not messed with it having HEB power. I am still paying for that one!

finality

Rc, very well stated!

finality

I do not mean to imply that I am being punished. Rather, my energy field holds all that that I have done and I have to transmute this is some way. I have help doing this. This is not karma. It is me getting a grip on my energy. I have to be in a physical body in order to heal all that i need to heal. My soul sees to it that I have the needed opportunities. No outside force does it.

finality

This is likely an opportune time to bring up this matter of hell. There is no hell. There is the eventuation of a human whose desires take him farther and farther away from God until there is no longer any awareness even of a God, let alone a desire to emulate Him. That individual finds himself farther and farther away from the energy of light and eventually encounters the black hole. Any energy that gets into that back hole emerges again as clean, clear energy of light. No energy is ever lost. It simply changes form. It is recycled.

Hi

I don't have a lot more to say on this subject. It's probably my ego position causing me to write this post right now!!

Adhyashanti, Tony Parsons and Eckhart Tolle as well as many others have helped formulate my point of view. And that is exactly what it is, my point of view. When I do awaken this may look rather different. Until I am no longer the I, my projection of what I think ego is will remain. I believe the Ego may well be a product of all my history through this life and many before this one. My true self is not my experience. It simply is, it is

Blessings

Michael

Otoharo!

Michael, that is mot a bad position at all. I wish you well.

finality

capri,

/*\ Namaste :-}}

- True Self??

- some will say that only when one has traversed the Bardo sucessfully will the True (Complete) Self be known

>:-}}

Reiki All Around,

All Blessings,

Firekeeper

Hi FK

Not sure I want to wait for the Bardo!!

Blessings

Michael

capri,

/*\ Namaste :-}}

- there may not be a 'choice' in the matter

- only when faced with traversing the Bardo will we encounter the opportunity to remove ourselves from the wheel of death and re-birth

>:-}}

- now, I am told there may be the very rare exception in which case Enlightenment is so profound and encompassing that such an entity, upon death, essentially bypasses the Bardo and is then free of the cycle of death and re-birth

- but, such "individuals" are so exceptionally rare that, in practical terms, the issue seems nearly moot. Even H.E. the Dalai Lama is likely to re-incarnate (he has suggested as much in interviews given).

>:-}}

Reiki All Around,

All Blessings,

Firekeeper

Hi FK,

I don't see what is wrong with the cycle of birth & death. (at least not for a few thousand times LOL) I think a good life is worth living and a hard life is still worth experiencing. I believe our souls wants to experience. I don't really buy into the whole ' we're here to suffer ' idea.. and when we don't have to come back we'll be happier

If you weren't living/waiting to be reborn what would you like to do? :-)

What I think is important is our view point. Thats where the whole ego thing comes in. For me I believe if we can remove our karmic conditionong we'd be free to live what I can simply describe as 'better' lives where we can admire the beauty of creation and experience a deeper love...

Anyways thats my 2 cents worth!

Blessings

Michael

capri,

/*\ Namaste :-}}

- did I say there was anythng 'wrong' with the cycle of death and re-birth? It is.

- Enlightenment is the end of one's repetitive re-visits to Samsara (with little choice in the matter) - to become bodhisattvah at least one may then choose.

bagl

- suffering? Ignorance of the true nature of existence is suffering (although I grant you that for many ignorance seems to be bliss) - that too is Samsara

bagl

- you said: "I don't really buy into the whole ' we're here to suffer ' idea.. and when we don't have to come back we'll be happier"

- we are here because we have not resolved our Karma - when we are free of our Karmic conditioning (which, btw, we created ourselves) then we will not be reborn again (unless we so choose as bodhisattvahs may choose).

- to get out of the cycle of death and rebirth is not a matter of "happier" or less happy - those are the hooks and short-comings of the dualistic mind

- such human notions do not exist in the realms of enlightenment - and 'when' you become enlightened you won't miss sadder or happier ( grasping for happiness to avoid suffering) - that is the trap

>:-}}

Reiki All Around,

All Blessings,

Firekeeper

Hi FK,

Have I met you before in like a 100 or more lives? LOL

Sure hope I'm not speaking to you about this again in another 100!!

Seriously though we are learning from life and with all the energetic help available to us right now we may be able to shorten the road we walk along together.

Blessings

Michael

capri,

/*\ namaste :-}}

- compassionate living will eventually manifest the resolution of each person's Karma (and their ignorance and hence their suffering) - how many lifetimes that will be for any individual is unknowable

>:-}}

Reiki All Around,

All Blessings,

Firekeeper

Hi FK,

I think it may take more than compassionate living to get through the amount of Karma we hold, although this may be a part of it.

A lot of problems or issues we were unable/unwilling to deal with are on hold and waiting stored away. It's not easy but we have to face it sometines.

Helen Keller has some great quotes. She is very inspirational. she once said that 'when you face the sun all your problems fall behind you like shadows' - or something close to that!

We are fortunate that their are energetic tools available like Reiki, which can act as a catalist.

All Blessings,

Michael

Otoharo!

Michael, From this post, I recall something I had forgotten about. When our group was learning about earth as a sentient being, one fact stood out. That is, that earth had taken on the overflow of humanity. That is, what you are calling karma, had to go somewhere as humanity was not able to handle it, so earth took it into herself sort of as a bank. Then when she chose to take her step in her evolution, she dropped all of our stuff and we have to deal with it now.

I probably am not saying this very well. There is a workbook for gardening that has in it a discussion by Pan that speaks about this also. (I am in the process of moving and all my books are packed away. Perelandra, I think it is.)

finaity

Otoharo!

In a post about judgement, I realized that I left this part out here. Ego is the promoter of judgment. Ego passes judgement on everything and everybody. When these thoughts come to us, we can always know, "Oh, this is ego!"

finaltiy

capri,

/*\ Namaste :-}}

- yes, compassioante living is simply the foundation and to some extent the springboard for resolving Karma

- only the very rare individual will ever manage the 'sufficient' resolution of his\her Karma in a single lifetime to pass the Bardo

>:-}}

- the trick is, of course, not to emerge into a "lesser" reinicarnation the next time around (based on how one lived one's life this time around)

bagl

Reiki All Around,

All Blessings,

Firekeeper