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How do we resolve ego?

posted at 2/10/2006 10:03 AM
ID# 90211
Otoharo!

We have had a long and brilliant discussion of what ego is. How do we rid ourselves of this hindrance, and it is a hindrance to a spiritual life.

I awoke this morning from having had a brush up with ego just before regaining conscious awareness. Ego sets the stage by bringing up a grievance. Once a person has been forthright to express a grievance where something can be done about it, that is the end of the grievance per se. What continues afterward is ego based. Ego takes that germ of true grievance and magnifies it squeezing out all the juice of it over and over again. It's this broken record going on and on that is ego and one's ability to step aside and see this enables one to snuff it.

For example, I have shared with you all many times how i got caught up in ego in the first place. That event has been forgiven by all that matter, myself included. But losing the clatter regarding this is another thing entirely! That forgiveness took place years ago. Ego will not let it go. It is too juicy! It can get me stirred up so quick and keep me stirred up all day, if I do nothing about it!

Learning this and how to lose it is where I am now. I'm getting there, actually. Bit by bit. It requires diligence! And more diligence. The quicker I spot it, the better my day goes!

When I play and write music, I have pulled the plug on ego for that time. So I stay in thie creative state as much as possible. Meditation is another place beyond the reach of ego. So, seldom do I check in here to share with all of you. It gets to be chancey.

I always refer back to Reiki. Only through the power we tap when we allow reiki, does help really sink in! It is marvelous! When I shut my eyes I see it cycling in like looking directly into the eye of a spiral. The Source has already given us all we ever need. We simply avail ourselves of it!

finality

re: How do we resolve ego?

posted at 2/10/2006 11:00 AM
ID# 90213
This is a reply to: 90211
finality,

/*\ Namaste :-}}

- Mindfulness will help us with Ego as well

- we have the capacity to pay attention to our "grasping and aversion" - those Ego dynamics that keep us hooked into the cycle of death and re-birth

>:-}}

Reiki All Around,

All Blessings,

Firekeeper

re: How do we resolve ego?

posted at 5/15/2006 4:23 PM
ID# 91862
This is a reply to: 91861
jaguar,

/*\ Namaste :-}}

- try get rid of Ego?

- not at all -(that will come soon enough at death)

>:-}}

Reiki All Around,

All Blessings,

Firekeeper

re: How do we resolve ego?

posted at 5/16/2006 8:17 AM
ID# 91873
This is a reply to: 91862
Hi Finality,

So the Ego debate is open again is it :-)

I'm all the time learning about Ego. I'm not sure we really need to get rid of it. I'm beginning to realise that it's neither bad or good. Ego is simply ego. I would also call it our Self Defination.

Ego actually helps us. I know thats hard to believe but wait.. Without it we wouldn't find/see our issues, and without issues we wouldn't go inside to get to the root of things.

If you can go deep enough inside you may find that nothing place which is actually you. Maintain your presence there and see how it feels. Ask yourself a question. Who is answering now?? Maybe take an issue in there with you and hold it in presence. You'll realise the issue isn't actually real and it might just disappear :-) of course there will be plenty of conditioning left in your system to work on.. Reiki :-)

Good luck

Michael

re: How do we resolve ego?

posted at 5/16/2006 9:19 AM
ID# 91877
This is a reply to: 91873
Michael,

/*\ Namaste :-}}

- to the extent we discover (and work to "master") the operations of our Ego, we begin to recognize some of the contents of our Unconscious as well

- and begin to have a sense of the the workings of the Shadow (and the Golden Shadow as well)

>:-}}

Reiki All Around,

All Blessings,

Firekeeper

re: How do we resolve ego?

posted at 5/16/2006 11:36 AM
ID# 91878
This is a reply to: 91877
FK and all,

I think what really gets in the way is the ego's attachments.

Best wishes,
Roxy

re: How do we resolve ego?

posted at 5/16/2006 12:49 PM
ID# 91880
This is a reply to: 91862
Otoharo!

FK, I understand your definition of ego, as in id, concious, and ego. I am using ego as a part of the function of intellect. Self is not the same as ego, as I use it. In fact, ego was designed to assist but got changed in function to be distructive. Lazaris in his teachings has a tape that is called, Busting and Building Ego. What he meant by busting is taking away its self approinted role in our lives. If we can do this, then we can rebuild a positive ego function. HIs assumptoin is that we can do that. And many did so in his group. I could not. So Xaris assisted me to rid myself of this function in my intellect. By-pass it, so to speak. She also reported that Earth, the Sentient Being has degreed that ego is no more. New souls coming in do not have egos. They are fully eguiped for life without an ego.

finaltiy

re: How do we resolve ego?

posted at 5/16/2006 12:59 PM
ID# 91881
This is a reply to: 91873
Otoharo!

Capri, In my statement, I said get rid of the function. No we can not get rid of ego. But we can live without its function.

finality

re: How do we resolve ego?

posted at 5/16/2006 2:28 PM
ID# 91883
This is a reply to: 91878
Ms. Roxanne,

/*\ Namaste ;-}}

- attachement and aversion are key dynamics of Ego that make it so difficult to release ourselves from the cycle of death and re-birth

- the Karma we accrue as a result of how we manage these dynamics then contribute to the trans-lifetime habitual ways with which we deal with each new life

- habits of which we may be largely un-aware - which is to say that it is the information about these habits that is partially housed in the Unconscious

- so exists another reason that enlightening ourselves the best we may each during life time is so important

>:-}}

- as we are able to uncover these karmically inappropriate habits and alter them, so do we reduce the number of reincarnations to be faced (and hence reduce the number of times we must try to successfully navigate the Bardo - just one successful encounter being sufficient)

bagl


Reiki All Around,

All Blessings,

Firekeeper

re: How do we resolve ego?

posted at 5/16/2006 3:52 PM
ID# 91884
This is a reply to: 91880
Hi,

Does anyone have thoughts on the collective ego?

Michael

re: How do we resolve ego?

posted at 5/16/2006 4:11 PM
ID# 91885
This is a reply to: 91884
Michael,

/*\ Namaste :-}}

- can you define what you mean by collective ego?

- I know of the Collective Unconscious

Reiki All Around,

All Blessings,

Firekeeper

re: How do we resolve ego?

posted at 5/16/2006 5:07 PM
ID# 91888
This is a reply to: 91881
finality,

/*\ Namaste :-}}

- I am not quite sure what you are suggesting

>:-})

- are you saying we can 'turn the power off' to the Ego so that it simply becomes little more than an inert black box left hanging around??

- that Ego becomes, more-or-less, like the appendix - of no functional value yet with some potential to perhaps cause problems??

bagl

Reiki all around,

All Blessings,

Firekeeper

re: How do we resolve ego?

posted at 5/17/2006 12:02 PM
ID# 91897
This is a reply to: 91885
Hi FK,

I'm not exactly sure how to define the collective Ego but what I'm talking about is...

The ability of a group to perpetrate acts that the individual wouldn't be capable of e.g. football violence, hulliganism. The group seems to give the ego more power..


Michael

re: How do we resolve ego?

posted at 5/17/2006 12:47 PM
ID# 91901
This is a reply to: 91897
Michael,

/*\ Namaste :-}}

- there is an entire area of Psychology devoted to 'group dynamics' and the effects groups have on individuals in that group or outside the group (whether the group is a religious or ethnic sect or 'gang' or business group, etc

- group and peer pressure and all that

- and how people will perhaps yield their ethics or morals to some degree to "belong"

- but I have never heard this referred to as a group ego yet I can see where you are headed with that idea

Reiki All Around,

All Blessings,

Firekeeper

re: How do we resolve ego?

posted at 5/17/2006 5:50 PM
ID# 91915
This is a reply to: 91901
Hi FK,

Thanks for your insights :-)

Reiki

Michael

re: How do we resolve ego?

posted at 5/17/2006 9:24 PM
ID# 91917
This is a reply to: 91888
Otoharo!

FK., My stuggle with ego has taken me a long, long time. Now, I am seldom bothered by it. The last session last year began with a voice in my head which filled me with distress. Once there was this emotion, then I had no control. Figuring that session out, really gave me more secourity than anything else I have done. Of course I was able tod o that because of all the proir work I have done.

Once the concept of its being a function, came to me it seems no longer interfere in any way. Even so, I am not out of third density either. I will report from time to time.

finaltiy

re: How do we resolve ego?

posted at 5/17/2006 9:36 PM
ID# 91918
This is a reply to: 91884
Otoharo!

Lazaris talked about consensus reality, that is, the reality which humans create through consensus. The spiritual path is different from this.

There is only one ego, and ego is not a being. We use the ego pattern in our intellect. Since Earth has ousted the ego, all that is left of it, is what we carry within our intellects. New babies coming in do not have ego pattern.

finaltiy

re: How do we resolve ego?

posted at 5/18/2006 1:12 AM
ID# 91923
This is a reply to: 91918
finality,

/*\ Namaste :-}}

- one view is: to the extent that we bring our Karma with us into each new incarnation, even neonates have certain Karmic patterns of habitual behavior they are born with - patterns that influence Ego development or may in fact become aspects of Ego

>:-}}

Reiki All Around,

All Blessings,

Firekeeper

re: How do we resolve ego?

posted at 5/21/2006 5:25 PM
ID# 91973
This is a reply to: 91962
Otoharo!

I am not understanding what you are saying. Do you mean that there are only 12 incarnations? I have been coming here lifetime after lifetime at least 20,000 years and was likely here at least once each of these 100 years. that is a lot of lifetime! since I have never heard of this 12 incarnations idea, I am interested in your source.

finality

re: How do we resolve ego?

posted at 5/21/2006 5:32 PM
ID# 91974
This is a reply to: 91923
Otoharo!

FK., I hear what you are saying. Yes, I came in this lifetime with the intension of completing my work here. This meant that I was lead to one who could help me remember all the negative stuff that I have refused to look at before (which I have reported). Other things have seemed to be the tail end of issues and habits from the past. Even blazing new trails seems very familiar to me.

finality

re: How do we resolve ego?

posted at 5/22/2006 9:21 AM
ID# 91986
This is a reply to: 91962
jaguar,

/*\ Namaste :-}}

- your last incarnation?? perhaps.

- our Karma is enough of a mystery to us

>:-}}

- our 'fate' following the end of this life cannot be known in this life - for we cannot know, in advance, whether we will pass thru the Bardo successfully or not

- besides, others have enough to do dealing with their own Karma and cannot meddle in ours

>:-}}

Reiki All Around,

All Blessings,

Firekeeper

re: How do we resolve ego?

posted at 7/1/2006 2:34 PM
ID# 92794
This is a reply to: 92789
Dear Jaguar,

I've been told I'm on my last incarnation, too. I always sort of suspected this. And now, recent events in my life really make it look as if it is so.

I know it's hard for you now, with all the issues you've had. I had them, too, and resolved them. I think it's part of the process. And yes, I'm sure Reiki is part of it.

Anyway, keep the faith, my friend.

Rock On!
Roxy

re: How do we resolve ego?

posted at 7/1/2006 6:50 PM
ID# 92799
This is a reply to: 92789
Jaguar,

/*\ Namaste :-}}

- a last incarnation would be anyone's wish, perhaps

:-}}

- it is certainly mine so not a projection

bagl

- but I have few illusions that I am on my last incarnation - only my next journey thru the Bardo will tell

>:-}}

- but, that wish itself suggests attachment to Ego - for it is thru Ego that we wish, hope, deny, etc, etc

- the only way to know if this life is a last incarnation is when one is not reborn

>:-}}

- and, no one else can tell us if we are in our last incarnation unless they are truely skilled in reading the Akashic Record

- not many of such folk, I would say

- but, you pay your money and take your chances with the reading you receive and wish as you see fit

Reiki All Around,

All Blessings,

Firekeeper

re: How do we resolve ego?

posted at 7/5/2006 8:53 PM
ID# 92873
This is a reply to: 92863
Dear Jaguar,

I've wondered the same thing about various people I've met on the internet. There seem to be so many people presently incarnated, that the connections must be very complex.

And yes, of course, this is my one important life. Let me live it as a blonde.

Rock On!
Roxy

re: How do we resolve ego?

posted at 7/13/2006 11:49 AM
ID# 93014
This is a reply to: 92933
is "i am egoless" a contradictive phrase ;o) xxx ?

its mind boggling... the whole time thing... just because there is no past and no future, how dooes that make there no present...?

i feel like there is only the present... one very long present... and we just pass on through like you pass through space.... one long very space... past and future are our milestones, but really there is only the present... thats my thought on it at the "present" ;o)

what do you think?

RoxyLady xxX