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Otoharo!

What does it mean to be out of body? Of course you could think I am talking about leaving the body sitting there in the chair while you go somewhere else. I mean to refer to after death of the physical body. I like the stories in Urantia for these details. There are worlds away from earth that we travel to. In Inner Peace Movement, we learn to see and converse with souls of those who have died but are not aware that they are dead and they continue living their lives unaware that no one can see them. We learned also to do trance healings in which one of us went into trance and talked to this person and explained his situation to him so that he could "go home" which means go to where their guide takes them. One of their guides stays with them even when they are confused about the death of their body. It was the aim of this program to clear out the fifteen mile space around earth that has souls hanging around when they belong somewhere else.

We cologuielly call them ghosts or spooks. In the energy profile of this program, the counselor finds out if one had a spook in their aura because that can happen.

The reason I wanted to begin this topic is that we can not heal ourselves when out of body. All healing is done here. So after death, our higher selves determines whether more healing has to be done, if so, plans the next life. Otherwise, we leave the space around earth and begin our lives in another world.

I feel a particular affinity for earth as I have had so much healing to do!

We were considering about whether the big shift is coming this friday. It will be easy to find out. If the sun never comes up or never sets, then we know that we have hit the big shift. That may be all that gives us this hint until monday when the sun will rise in the west! Won't that be a blast! It will then set in the east. That is, unless we live near the mountain with volcanoes. they will all blow.

finality

Dear Finality,

Despite the conjecture that it's hallucination, I believe in what people report in near-death experiences. Sort of a resting place where we work out what we need to accomplish in our next lives. When we have acheived what we need to, and all our Karma has been absolved, we no longer incarnate, and instead, stay in a place of Universal Love.

When I had hoped to study shamanism more, I really wanted to learn to be a psychopomp (a shaman who leads those who don't realize they're dead, home). Unfortunately, money never permitted.

Love,
Roxy

Ms. Roxanne,

/*\ Namaste :-}}

- psychopomping is multifaceted - not just supposedly guiding lost souls

- soul retireval is part of psychomping

- or conferring with the spirit world during divinatin work or journeying work for someone else

- the role of welcoming a 'new' soul into the world during birthing rituals is for the psychopomp (Shaman)

- in Jungian terms, a psychopomp mediates with the Unconscious during dreaming - thus a Wise figure may appear or in some cases Power Animals

>:-}}

Reiki All Around,

All Blessings,

Firekeeper

Otoharo!

The work I have done these past few years has been soul retreival of the me that did things I could not tolerate the thought of having done them. One of our group asked Xaris if this were soul retreival. It was. So we can retreive our own lost part. that is, for me, my discarded part!

We had activities going on in this area where I live about ten years ago in which a local new age bookstore brought in psychics and such each weekend, to offer their programs. I had my office in this book store and thus got in on all these happenings. In one event, a person, I will call K, would give channeled messages. I asked K why she offered this service. Her reply was quick in coming. "It is better than living in a pool of energy!"

The thousand of us who came here in the long ago, 120,000 years ago, were some of those who had completed all human evolution and were living in our own world. We were offered opportunity to accept the challenge of holding the energy of spirit for evolving humans on an individual planet. Xaris is one of these.

I am trying to weed through all those lifetimes, to recall my behavior in Chulan which got me exiled. I can put together things I have been told, but can not yet grasp my own memory of this. that would have been about 20,000 years ago by my calculation.

So there are worlds dedicated to the housing of humans who have completed the course!

finality

My silly computer is so sensitive that it psted the message before I had completed it. My thumb was too close to a button.

Anyway we have differeing oppinions on what is out there for us, and when.

finality

Otoharo!

The Astro-Soul program does this. It is a sister program to Inner Peace Movement originated by the one we know as John the Baptist. He returned here in order to help clean out the congestion of energy around earth by all the souls who do not know that they are dead and do not go home. We learned to do this. Inner Peace Movement continues now that Francisco is dead. His son leads it under the name IPMers.com. There may be a neighbor beside you that can give these counselings.

finality

hmmmm, can i ask you a question finality?? is this Xaris chappy, someone/thing you channel??..forgive me if i sound a little blunt, but I'm new here, and I'm just trying to get a feel for you all....and obviously haven't read all the posts round here...

and another question..... you talk about past lives.... can you tell me in your opinion, what part of us is it, that re-incarnates??

Otoharo!

Sakti-rising, your questions take a lifetime of answering. This will be boring to most readers, I have said it so many times.

When humans evolve to their highest possible, they are called "finaliters" in Urantia, and in the Conversations with God series, they are called HEB's (Highly Evolved Beings.) These humans are so evolved they are not regular humans anymore. Uranta says they are spirit beings.

These HEB's live in their own world. Eventually they seek a job to do. In companies of about a thousand, they volunteer to go to a planet of primative humans, to hold the energy of spirit for them.

That happened here on earth. A company came 120,000 years ago. They could not allow humans to see them, or know that they were here, not in any way. Eventually, the glaciers were so heavy, they pushed up land in the Pacific. the HEB's saw that humans did not know that this land was there and would have had no way of reaching it even if they did. The HEB's saw an opportunity to live in communities. So they did. prior to that they were scattered about in earth. This land they called Chulan. Legend has called it Lemuria.

The Atlantians were humans technologically advanced but who did not know they were Divine. They settled on an island in the Atlantic. Eventually, some scientists there tried to capture an asteroid and cause it to orbit earth. Instead, the asteroid followed their lazar beam and distroyed Atlantis and caused the sinking of Chulan. Since then, HEB's have not lived in communities. They are still here. Some have incarnated from time to time to assist humans.

Xaris is one of these HEB's. She was the grandmother of the people at the time of the blow-up. I and my soulmate were one of these HEB's. Xaris was our very dear friend and still is. She at one time was channeled by a man who came to Longview where I live and gave a program that I attended. I got acquainted with her. I had clients and students at the time. She offered to meet with my group sometime. So I scheduled her and the group were enamored with her and asked her to come every month. She did for a year or so. Each time, after the group was over, she stayed and was available to me privately. (I did not realize that she had set this up in order to help me to heal things that I did not even know needed healing!)

Now Xaris stays with my soulmate. So I have access to her but only when I am out of my head. She can not help someone's head!

That is who Xaris is.

Obviously, my body is not 120,000 years old. So I have had to have many bodies since coming here. re-incarnation is simply dropping the old body and taking a new one.

finaltiy

well thats certainly an interesting story...you'll have to excuse me when i say i am a little skeptical....

and you say reincarnation is simply dropping an old body and taking a new one...so then what part of us is it that takes a new one??

Otoharo!

The self is us ourself. The self can not die. It is only that which is physical that can die.

finality

But is it a small facet of the whole self which incarnates every time?..Or the whole Self??.

I'm open to the idea of reincarnation....but have never had any direct experience of a past life...so all i am in a postion to be is open to the idea...... But what would make sense to me is a small facet of the 'Self' incarnating.... and when each facet of the self evolves, learns and grows..... only then can all those small parts of the Self become whole...( I don't know If I'm making any sense..HA!)..but this is kind of how I see it....

I respect your beliefs, finality, but as you say - there are many.

May I ask what on earth (or elsewhere) otoharo means?

thanks for asking, thais. I've wondered what it means, too???

Otoharo!

This is a sentence in the Chulan language. It means, OT= that; O= I; HA = God Transcendant; HAR (borrowing the r from to) = God Emminant; RO= you. So, that, I, God Transcendant, God Emminant. and you are all the same. Oneness.

The only Chulan language I can find on the net is a web programming language!! Or a place in Malasia. Can you point me in the right direction, finality?

Otoharo!

You can not find Chulan now. Legend calls Chulan, Lemuria which sank the same time that Atlantis sank. I used to live in Chulan. It was Xaris who gave us this sentence as it is the sentence that reminds us always that we are one.

finality

Firekeeper....I'd never heard of psychopomping nor soul retrieval....hadn't even considered our being in the physical plane being able to help or make a difference....still learning.

ahhhh, my question....since I do craniosacaral work and I've been attempting to introduce it to our medical profession because Dr. UpLedger has successfully (cutting in half the incidence of autism, attention deficit, bipolar tendencies, etc.) used it during one's pregnancy, immediately after, and for followup...both for the mama & the babe....

I'm not stating this very well am I....

I believe that craniosacral deals with the core of an individual....I've sensed things about the child while working with the mom & child still in the womb....simple things like it's sex...it's gifts.....would this connect to the soul in any way???