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Otoharo!

Lazaris teaches that we are fragments of God. We are not just like God, we ARE God.

The God Within

Under the sky,
Over the brook,
Beneath the stars,
Upon the hills,
Along the road,
Beside the cliff,
Around the bend,
I find you.

You fill my heart,
You fill my thoughts,
You fill my beingness,
You

I find you in my heart,
You never went away,
It was I who left your side.
It was I who went away.
It was I who went out to play.
It was I who wanted to experience, this human life.
It was I who went away.

I return now to my heart.
I return to my home.
I return now to be with you.
I return to be myself.

I return now to my heart.
I return to my home.
I return now, to be with you.
I return to be myself.

copyrite: A. A. Pipkin, 2001

finality,

/*\ Namsate :-))

- perhaps this belief (Illusion) helps explain so much of human behavior

>:-}}

Reiki All Around,

All Blessings,

Firekeeper

Dear Mr. Firekeeper,

I think there is a bit of a distinction here. Yes, I think we can all think of examples of people who think they are part of God, and let it become an excuse for egoism.

There are others, however, for whom believing one is a part of God, is really a belief, not in ego, but instead, of total humility.

Rock On!
Roxy

roxy,

Hi,

It seems noticeable, to me at least, that when people speak of "god within us", and for the moment I am not claiming that view, they neglect many of the horrors of human behavior: torture, murder, false imprisonment, lying, cheating, ad nauseum. All these in the name of god? Or politics?

I wonder how certain folks can be so strongly opposed to abortion, for example, yet find little trouble defending torture as a means of getting information. No stem cell reseach but....... "praise the lord and pass the cattle prod"

God in all of us? Fine, as long as all human qualities are included in that attribution of god.

Cheers,

RC

RC,

I think that relates more to the concept of man being made in God's image, than believing a part of God is in everyone and everything.

True, we all have egos who misinterpret religion and do horrendous things. The concept of having a part of God within does not deny that people do such things...but those are the actions of the ego. The part of God withing you is apart from from the ego and has none of its nature. To live in accord with the part of God within you is not normal human nature...at least not in this society.

How's that for writing with no coffee in the morning yet?

Rock On!
Roxy

roxy,

Hi,

I am having my cup of joe. Hope yours is\was deelish as well.

So, for those who say we were made in god's image would this not also include ego? If "man" cannot create anything not intended by god (that is, god created All), then the existence of ego is not possible, no? If I were to go along with the in god's image thing, then are we not simply projections of god? And I would suggest further that 'in the image' thinking realm it would necessarily have to make part of what we are projections of some sort of god-ego. I do not feel one can parcel out some things such as ego as not being part of 'the god within' while leaving other aspects un-scrutinized. This seems way too convenient, to me at any rate.

Further, if we are only what god intended, how can we truely have free will? Not that free will actually exists -god or no god. Now, if god intended life forms to evolve as they have over the many thousands of millenia, then strict creationism is again, rather in trouble.

Cheers,

RC

Dear RC,

You can have it anyway you want. I don't feel like arguing, and at the moment, am too tired to even know what you said. I've had a really rough day, and an even rougher week. Discussions of the nature of God and Man aren't on my agenda right now. (Although I thought they were this morning).

Catch you another time, okay?

Rock On!
Roxy

roxy,

Hi,

The way I want it? Now, wouldn't that have some folks concerned.

lol

But, no worries. I'll be here, or not. Unless, of course, I am elsewhere, or not.

Sleep well. Proper sleep helps keep us young.

Cheers,

RC

Otoharo!

Sorry I could not contribute further to this discussion when my computer crashed. Lazaris teaches that we are all fragments of the energy we call God. Actual bits of God. We chose to explore ourselves to find out who and what we are for ourselves. We do not hear this part of ourselves directly until we have evolved to the point that our kunilini is at our throat chakra. After that we hear ourselves, the God part of ourselves. Before that we hear our guide(s) or angels tanslate for us.

Your referrence to what you regard as ungodly behavior is evidence that we have free will to explore ourselves good and bad until the time we choose to return to our origin.

I doubt the Budha taught any of this. But is Budha all of God?

finality

finality,

Hi,

I am glad your absence was nothing more serious than a kaput puter.

Buddha is not what many call the big 'g' god. I nor anyone else who understands the Buddha's place in history has claimed such. The Buddha would teach that free will is, at least in part, mythical. To the extent that our Karma leads us to repeat habitual patterns developed over many lifetimes (hate and violence being prime examples) our behavior in many instances is far from an expression of free will.

Cheers,

RC

While I was off the computer I received several emails regarding this subject. I am willing to answer these if anyone wants to question further.

finality

Thank you, finality, for bringing forth all of these words...
"infinite possibilities"....and I love how they come from so many different people with so many different hearts & ways of thinking & believing....and yet, we're allowed to hold to our own....as R.C. may say whether for right/wrong...good/bad...
awesome words.....