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Hi Gang
just interested in your views on this one. I class myself as a traditional reiki teacher (for want of a better word). But i feel that it was unnecesary to have the masters level split into two parts. Is this the normal thing to do, I believe it is the traditional way. My second part, which was more or less just being shown the attunement proccess I feel could have been done together with the first part, instead of a three month gap in between. I would like to remain traditional. but this two part thing just doesn't sit right with me.
Interested to know your thoughts.

love and light

Ian

My RMT also taught master level in two parts, split up into ART (Advanced Reiki Training) and Reiki III. Both are always scheduled on consecutive days. Those who want advanced training but have to wish to teach/attune, stay only the first day, get the Usui master symbol attunement, then leave. Those who want to go on to teach, stay for all three days to receive instruction and the rest of the symbols.

I haven't thought much about whether this is a good thing or not a good thing. I do have a friend who went to a teacher who did not split it up, and though she didn't have a desire to teach she went through the whole thing anyway in order to get her certification. IMO, going through all the training just to get all your certificates is not a good enough reason to become a master. I believe mastership chooses you, you don't choose it, because there's more to being a Reiki master than hanging a certficate on a wall.

Originally I had no desire to teach; in my mind, I was done when I finished level 2. A series of events led me to realize that Reiki wasn't done with _me_, though, so eventually I took the training. On the first day I showed up, my teacher smiled at me and said "I knew you'd be back someday."

Celt

I personally don't feel it's a requirement. I am unsure whether it's traditional or not. But assuming you are correct and it is. Does that neccessarily mean it's better?
In my understanding usually the only difference in the attunements is that the master symbol or symbols if one uses the non-traditional one are actually passed in the second attunement for Reiki 3. Some feel it is broken up for monetary gain. I don't think that's neccessarily the case.
As was discussed in the thread on mastership a month or two ago. I feel Reiki 3 is really only neccessary for folks who are going to teach or wish to dedicate their life to Reiki ( or as much as they can. Not everyone can stop their jobs and such for Reiki ). That being said I see no harm in just doing one attunement . Traditionally speaking. Reiki is simple so why break into two parts something that doesn't really need to be broken up in terms of book knowledge.
Also my understanding of the way attunements were normally passed was that when one showed they were ready for the next level is when they got the attunements. In the westernized version it's generally considered 1 to 2 mo.s between Reiki 1 and 2. And 6 to 8 months between two and three. These are also considered safe minimums it may take individuals shorter or longer. So my question is if one is going to wait a pretty long time or even 6 to 8 months to get Reiki 3 then why would the "wait time" between two parts of Reiki 3 only be 3 months?

Otoharo!

ianuk, Having reiki in two parts is not the traditional way. I never heard of this until this board.

finality

Due to my experience of late I agree whole heartedly that it should all be one class.

Tracey

Hi Ian, namaste ....

Personally I do not think it is traditional to teach the Master level in two parts.

It may, or may not be for monetary gain that some Masters teach it in this manner.

I did not learn it in this way.

I do not teach it in this way. I teach Reiki 111 in one course, the whole thing.

Hope this helps add to the pot.

Love and light,
philanty.

When I went for the Master attunement, I was given two choices:
1. Master
2. Master/Teacher (ability to attune others to Reiki)

The second choice cost more and I wasn't very interested in teaching or attuining others to begin with, so I went with the first option. This means my title is "Reiki Master" and not "Reiki Master/Teacher".

newbie

Hi Ian
The reiki master in 2 parts is the William Rand/Tibetain reiki way. In ART (3 part 1) Yoy will probally encounter the antakarana(wrong speeling I think) and reiki chrystal grids as well as physcic surgery. Not traditional in any way, but a double whammy cash wise for the master teaching it (Unless you had my master, who charged very little for the teaching master part of it)
Traditionaly I believe that the student entered some kind of aprenticeship, but I'm sure that in most case's that dosn't happen anymore either.

I was pleased I did it this way, cos initially I had 4 days of teaching, before we started to meet regulary as a Master group to continue our training.

Hope this help clarify

Namaste

Rob
Friendship with oneself is all-important, because without it one cannot be friends with anyone else in the world.
Eleanor Roosevelt

ianuk,

/*\ Namaste :-}}

- as best as I can tell the truely traditional way had no attunements at all - rei-ju all the way

>:-}}

- that aside, I learned the Master training (including the Rei-ju) via a Teacher in the Takata Sensei lineage - she did the Master as a Unified Initiation

>:-}}

- for myself?? the split initiation is a waste of time and, in case of doubt, a waste of money

>:-}}

Reiki all around,

all blessings,

Firekeeper

hi All

thank you all for your input, I guess the majority of people feel the same way as i do, interestingly , my teacher is in the william rand lineage. i feel better teaching the masters in one part, also maybe incorperating an apprenticeship, which i had to do, and thought was a good idea, as the teacher could then see any weak points.
Considering nowdays where the information on attunements is available freely over the net, i can't see why there is still a split on the masters level. There is nothing to stop a person attaining the first part and then gaining the information they need from books or internet about attuning people. It does seem monitary led.

love and light

Ian

Hi everyone

I have recently joined a Reiki class doing Reiki 3 in two parts. First of all, we have 10 weeks at 2 hours a week to learn what is required to be a Reiki Master, if after this time, we feel we want to become a RM, then we spend 36 hours at 2 hours a week learning this.

I know this is a long time, but to me, nothing will be missed or left out and we do get thourough training.

Incidently, my master doesn't charge a penny for this teaching, so he has nothing to gain, only the knowledge that he has passed on everything he can.

Love Aura xxx