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just learning, thank you

posted at 1/28/2005 11:53 AM
ID# 81031
Thank you for your advice.
I will check to see who is in my area.
I live near springfield, va.
I work in DC.
I'm glad someone posted about the 'feeling"
I was going to ask about that.

So, no feelings are necessary?

thanks a lot
Rachel

re: just learning, thank you

posted at 1/28/2005 12:37 PM
ID# 81034
This is a reply to: 81031
rachel,

/*\ Namaste :-}}

- well, feelings are one of the primary ways we generate "attachments"

- thus they are a bountiful source for ways to be drawn back into the cycle of death and rebirth

- over-and-over-and-over-and-over again

>:-}}

Reiki All Around,

All Blessings,

Firekeeper

re: Feeling Qi/Energy

posted at 1/28/2005 1:24 PM
ID# 81039
This is a reply to: 81031
Hi Rachel,
Please let me tell you a story..
I first learned about Qi/Energy while I was in Kung-Fu class..
The Teacher never told us we were doing Qi-Gong exercises ..We did it because it was expected..
Well about a month into class, we are doing our "Standing Meditation" and there it was..
a small tingle...
a little buzz...
a strange yellow "haze" surrounded your hands...

We asked "whats this" and the Teacher laughed and
said..
"Its Qi"... and it will take a lifetime to learn all
of its essences...

When I asked, years later, why people dont
"feel Qi" at first..
I was told this..
You have dan-tains (storage centers) and as you do energy work they will fill on there own, they do this naturally as you sleep so thats another reason to get good sleep,it builds your Qi..
Because you were taught to open up to energy...
as a Reiki Channel, as the body fills with Qi/energy
one begins to feel it more and more.

My insite about Energy...
"When you believe you have Qi in your
hands it will happen"..

Its been 22 years, so far,
I promise you that every day I learn something
new about energy and my
abilities to use it...

Enjoy your path...
you have a lifetime to understand it...

But you can "have it" when your believe you have it..
:-)

Bear Sends Big Smiles

Peace,
Joe

re: Feeling Qi/Energy

posted at 1/28/2005 1:56 PM
ID# 81043
This is a reply to: 81039
Bear,

hi.

You said: "When you believe you have Qi in your
hands it will happen"..

Perhaps it is this "school" from whence the term "faith healing" derives?

Cheers,

RC

re: Feeling Qi/Energy

posted at 1/28/2005 3:35 PM
ID# 81053
This is a reply to: 81043
Hey RC..

"Believe and recieve...
Doubt and do without"

BearSmiles

re: Feeling Qi/Energy

posted at 1/28/2005 4:14 PM
ID# 81054
This is a reply to: 81053
Bear,

Hi.

It might also be sung: as I believed - so I was deceived

Doubt? That suggests a question. And as someone hereabouts keeps harping at: "it is the questions that matter"

lol

cheers (with a gnosh of choice)

RC

re: Feeling Qi/Energy

posted at 1/28/2005 4:41 PM
ID# 81055
This is a reply to: 81054
RC
Many people will dismiss the feeling of Qi flowing thru the fingers. They don't want to acknowledge that it is real.
When you know it is real you can then start to understand it and are able to access and perhaps use it.
Or you could put it another way
"Believe and recieve...
Doubt and do without"

Namaste

Rob
Friendship with oneself is all-important, because without it one cannot be friends with anyone else in the world.
Eleanor Roosevelt

re: Feeling Qi/Energy

posted at 1/28/2005 4:54 PM
ID# 81056
This is a reply to: 81055
rob,

hi.

Dismissing it does not make it any less 'real' when one has already had the 'perception" (we will leave aside for now that perceptions are Illusory) :) To say you know it is real is also simply perception (same caveat for now)

But to ask how to access it and how to harness it to one's Intention may be the questions that lead to 'receiving'. One simply has to allow for possibilities. Do all possibilities manifest in one lifetime? I would venture a rousing Nope.

:)

So, if I doubt that Qi is unreal does this mean I will not receive? Does it guarantee that I will?

:)

Cheers,

RC


re: Feeling Qi/Energy

posted at 1/28/2005 5:42 PM
ID# 81059
This is a reply to: 81056
Hi RC
Every single one of us can expierience Qi, Infact we all have Qi circulating around our bodies.
Can you learn to use that Qi?. Yes of course you can
When you have expierienced something, that dosn't neccesarily make it a perception that you have expierienced it . Yes you could can twist words into making it seem so, but as words can also could also be looked at as an illusion, we would then being going round and round chasing the illusion of our tails trying to get it.

Do all possbilities manifest in one life time?. I doubt that there is time (LOL).
Do we infact have more than one lifetime? Well some like to think that we do.

Namaste

Rob
Friendship with oneself is all-important, because without it one cannot be friends with anyone else in the world.
Eleanor Roosevelt

re: Feeling Qi/Energy

posted at 1/28/2005 6:29 PM
ID# 81060
This is a reply to: 81039
Hey Joe
Great way to describe it and a loverly story.


Namaste

Rob
Friendship with oneself is all-important, because without it one cannot be friends with anyone else in the world.
Eleanor Roosevelt

re: Master Zhang said...

posted at 1/28/2005 10:45 PM
ID# 81067
This is a reply to: 81060
Hey Rob...

As my Master said..
(keep in mind he is 84 and has limited english)
"Who had Qi?"
Some raised there hands..
Then he asked "who dont have Qi?"
A few hands went up..
He bowed his head ,sadly shaking it...
Looking very upset...
He would look up and say
" Sorry to hear it,
because,
Alot of Qi, Good...No Qi ... you DEAD!"
Then he would stand there with a big smile and that "Masters Twinkle" dancin' in his eyes..

As I lioke to say
"Its all just energy!"

Bear Smiles

re: Feeling Qi/Energy

posted at 1/28/2005 10:51 PM
ID# 81068
This is a reply to: 81059
Hey Guys..
If one manifests only one thing there whole life..
it would be an amazin' thing..

I'm sure we had this discussion at least
2 life times ago..
maybe 3...
:-)

And
As I like to say..
"its all just energy"

Energy is the string that binds all things
into one common but different form of energy...

ROFL
Bear Smiles

re: Feeling Qi/Energy

posted at 1/28/2005 11:42 PM
ID# 81070
This is a reply to: 81068
Bear,

Hi,

The only thing that binds us is the Illusion that energy or anything else we might perceive binds us. It is simply that some are more dense about it; some more subtle.

lol

Cheers,

RC

re: Feeling Qi/Energy

posted at 1/28/2005 11:44 PM
ID# 81071
This is a reply to: 81059
Rob,

Hi.

Huh??

lol

Cheers,

RC

re: Feeling Qi/Energy

posted at 1/29/2005 11:08 AM
ID# 81076
This is a reply to: 81070
Hi RC,
Qi/Energy is not an illusion...
one can try to cloud its being there
with fancy words ...
but in the end it all comes out in the wash.

After 22 years of energy work,
I have learned this simple thing
Energy is what connects all things...
Thats my belief...

Thats is why last night, I can sit here in NYC
and send Healing Qi/Energy to Victoria & Michael in Georgia, Binni in Massachuttes, Natalie in Delaware.
or
Heal a Dear Friends Doggie in Argentina.
I can draw the insite and powers from my Totems
and use them...
See a hawk fly by and know its message.
Rick taught me to find the Heart of a Tree
and connect with it, actually breath with a tree...

All of these things are because Qi/Energy
connects each thing to another..
Again this is my belief....
Its no illusion...
Anyone can see it...

If they believe..

May the force be with you, young Jedi.
See even Steven knew this...
(Big Smiles)

Peace,
SkywalkerBear
ROFLAM
(Laughin at myself)

re: Master Zhang said...

posted at 1/29/2005 8:17 PM
ID# 81091
This is a reply to: 81067
Hey Joe
Master Zhang, he very wise man.


Namaste

Rob
Friendship with oneself is all-important, because without it one cannot be friends with anyone else in the world.
Eleanor Roosevelt

re: Feeling Qi/Energy

posted at 1/29/2005 10:48 PM
ID# 81095
This is a reply to: 81039

Hi Joe,

now it makes sense why good rests is helpful. Not only do we heal, we are refill the depleted qi.

I have not let myself see any further than " if I rest, rinse, and eat fructose then I can be ready to feel energy."

Now, the fuller picture is formed. Yes, we need to refill. Then we bring to awareness etc the energy within us and around us.

Thanks ,
Starjasmine
now not so mechanical! :)

re: Feeling Qi/Energy

posted at 1/29/2005 11:01 PM
ID# 81096
This is a reply to: 81054

Hi,
maybe rephrase that quote "it is the questions that matter" to "perhaps some clearification would help?"

lol
Also phrase like "please expand on that" could be made common. Maybe abbrivate that phrase to "p.e.o.t" .
Imagine a page of info just filled with extensions on one or two ideas. Maybe we need copies like this type of page for the most common "please elaborate" topics.

Starjasmine


re: StarJ....

posted at 1/29/2005 11:15 PM
ID# 81097
This is a reply to: 81095
Hi StarJ,
I have seen this guy in a Qi-Gong
Master Level Class, who was sitting in the middle of a circle, surrounded by..
12 students, all talented, aspiring Masters,
2 actual Master Level Students and
the Master himself all "blasting" this guy..
He was on fire..he was glowing,
He sat there swearing that he felt nothing..
I was waiting for him to explode!
At least burst into flames!
ROFL.

Qi is am amazing thing..
Once we begin to understand its nuances,
it changes forever the way one see the
universe and beyond!

Building Qi..
As I said we build Qi as we sleep..
Everyone does this..
No training is necessary, the body just does it..
But the amount of Qi "gathered" is determined by
the length of time and the restfullness of the sleep..
If one is a Astral Projector, like me,
they are up all night and get less Qi then those
who just Dream & Sleep...
Thats one of the MAJOR reasons this Bear does
Tai-Chi & Qi-gong,
I want to make sure my "tanks" are full..
I never want to leave room for anything to be picked up..

Most people I see burn off the alotment
of Qi by the afternoon...
then they just push through the day feeling
drained and not themselves..
If one has a stressful job...
they tend to burn off there Qi by early morning,
and bitch & moan the rest of the day,
because they feel the lack of Qi in
there bodies...

I better get off this soapbox and go get
my needed rest!
LOL

Bear Sends Smiles

re: Master Zhang said...

posted at 1/29/2005 11:18 PM
ID# 81098
This is a reply to: 81067
Joe,

/*\ Namaste :-}}

- no Qi?? No Illusion!!

- at least until the next incarnation

bagl

Reiki All Around,

All Blessings,

Firekeeper

re: Master Zhang said...

posted at 1/29/2005 11:29 PM
ID# 81101
This is a reply to: 81098
Coyote Pete,
No Qi..
you DEAD ...
Thats a fact..

No Qi..
you'll experience that incarnation real fast!
thats no illusion!

BAGL ....
backatcha
With Scallion Cream Cheese!
Hold the LOX!

Bear Smiles

re: StarJ....

posted at 1/29/2005 11:44 PM
ID# 81103
This is a reply to: 81097
Hi Joe, nice chatting with you.

When we astral travel, do we bring a sleeping bag? Then we can rest before we re-enter our body... only to find that it's time to be up again! Imagine falling "sleep bound", all tired and "unmoveable" in the physical body!
It's hard to use words (even descriptive words) to explained the above "experience". Hope you managed to picture the sleepy astral body returning and surprising the physical body. :)

Maybe while we sleep in the astral plane, we can dream in our astral body. Like a double dream. Just thoughts....

Starjasmine
the imaginator....

re: StarJ....

posted at 1/30/2005 9:05 AM
ID# 81111
This is a reply to: 81103
Hi StarJ..
Believe me..there is no sleeping going on,
on the Astral..
EVERYTHING else but sleeping..
and I mean everything!
ROFL
If most could see there behaviors on
the Astral they would blush!!!!
You can bet there not sleeping there!
ROFL

Bear Sends Big Smiles

re: Master Zhang said...

posted at 1/30/2005 11:23 AM
ID# 81118
This is a reply to: 81101
Bear,

/*\ Namaste :-}}

- there is no telling how quickly the next incarnation will manifest

>:-}}

- besides, no new incarnation (no new Illusions) may not be such a bad thing

bagl (with scallion c.c sounds good)

>:-}}...

Reiki All Around,

All Blessings,

Firekeeper

re: StarJ....

posted at 2/1/2005 9:26 PM
ID# 81206
This is a reply to: 81103
Otoharo!

StarJ, in probably 94, my teacher, Xaris, said to me, I want you to stay in your body! I had been traveling out of body all my life. It is easy for air people to do this. But that is not why we are in a body to start with. Otherwise why be here at all? I have obeyed that injunction completely and what I have been able to do is fantastic. I have healed things I did dating back to at least 20,000 years ago. AS I see it there is no benefit to us in the astral, discontent is the quality of those I found there.

finality