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Hi everyone,

It's been a very long time and a difficult year for me. I've been on treatment for Post Traumatic Stress Disorder for months and have only been better these last 8 weeks ever since I started receiving EFT combined with Reiki treatments. EFT, by the way, is short for "Emotional Freedom Technique".

These sessions have been really helpful, eliminating most of the post trauma energetic residue. However the last four days, something else has been happening. I would like your opinions on this.

I have had these strange dreams ever since I started feeling the effects of PTSD (18 months after the event - a terrorist attack) and these have begun recurring. Also I had panic attacks before the EFT/Reiki treatment, but these had stopped ever since we started the sessions.

What is happening now is that each time we begin a Reiki session, the energy wells up and "shakes" my aura. I have no other words for this because I intermittently feel sleepy and vague and then begin to shudder from the pressure of the energy. Sometimes I feel real physical pain during and after the Reiki session. Since the session on Friday,mI have had pain on my sternum, in my joints and in the lower left abdomen. This has also affected me in other ways - the "shaky" feeling lasts so long I can't sleep.

Also, it's as if I'm just about to remember something but can't - then I begin to cry from the sheer pressure of the energy. I expect relief as I got in all the other sessions, but this time my energy just goes on shaking instead.

Thanks in advance for your replies,

I've missed talking to you all,

Esin

esin,

/*\ Namaste :-}}

- were you or are you taking any medications for depression and\or anxiety?

- if so, have you stopped taking some or all of these drugs recently?

- without doing a reading of your energy bodies myself it is difficult to make heads or tails of your issues with so little to go on

- can you describe the 'shaking' more precisely?? Any other 'symptoms'?

- one obvious possibility is that some of your energy bodies, most likely the denser ones, have collected a lot of 'junk' - some of which may be effects of your own self-generated feats, etc.

- if you would like to discuss some distance clearing work (the distance ketsueki-kokan) E-mail me and I will send you some information abut it so you can decide. The distance Ketsueki-kokan is a practice I have been doing for over four years now.

- take care,

Reiki All Around,

All Blessings,

Firekeeper

Otoharo!

I am glad you are able to communicate with us again. You were missed. As for your current experience with reiki, I would just let come what comes if this were me. In all energy work, the body dispells traumas in its own way. Just let it do that. If you are on medications, they may need to be changed, lessened, or what not.

finality

Namaste Firekeeper,

- yes I am taking medication, and yes, I am trying to give it up. What happened was that I was prescribed antidepressants at first, nine months ago, but after starting them I had horrible reactions. I don't even want to describe what I went through at the time. After a few more tries and again, awful reactions, it turned out I didn't have depression but was suffering from panic attacks. I shall take this opportunity to tell everyone who has been prescribed antidepressants to be very careful - you may have been prescribed the wrong medication. Please ask for a second opinion.

Later, I was given prescription drugs - this time tranquillizers - and the attacks began to subside. Unfortunately it seems tranquillizers are very difficult to give up. Right now I am down to 2.5 mg instead of, on occasion, an intravenous whopping 20 mg per day. However I am still having difficulty relaxing and sleeping.

- The shaking is like an electrical shudder that jolts me and sometimes brings subconscious issues with it. Each jolt triggers a physical spasm and this can really hurt. For example, I had another session 3 hours ago and my sternum hurts right now, with that feeling of pressure still inside my body. The only other symptom I can tell you of is agitation later on, with a raised heartbeat - but not a panic attack.

- Thank you, I would like to know more and will e-mail you now.

Esin

Thanks Finality -

I am trying to go with the flow :-) but it's hard at times.

The two psychiatrists I tried did more harm than good months ago because they were so determined to prescribe antidepressants. Yet so much time has passed and I now know that I was right to stop taking them after my weeks of experience with 4 of them; 4 different brands and, I suspect, some hard-to-get-rid-of chemical imbalances remaining in my system :-( These medications have serious side effects.

The tranquillizers were perscribed reluctantly, after witnessing my extreme agitation while on antidepressants, so I have stayed with my psychotherapist, an acupuncturist/MD and a Reiki therapist instead. I doubt I will ever trust a psychiatrist again.

(Sorry about that)

Esin

Esin,

/*\ Namaste :-}}

- it is likely I will have a few more questions about the nature of the spasms and where they occur and whether there are ever any instances when you do not recall what was going on just before or after a spasm occurs. But we can go itnot that by E-mail

Reiki All Around,

All Blessings,

Firekeeper

Otoharo!

Esin, I am glad firekeeper is offering some help. Remember that reiki amplifies medications sometimes up to 10 times. So gradually allow yourself to let reiki be the help for all your needs. You can not suddenly stop meds. though. taper tham off as you yourself guage your body's reactions to everything. Learn the language of your body and hear what it tells you.

finality

Hey Esin, *hugs you warmly, wrapping you in a violet light**

I'm a practitioner of EFT and from this perspective it sounds like a bit of resistance. But don't worry. You really are getting there.. There was probably just soooo much trauma that lots is flooding you. You are getting there..

When you start getting anxious or you feel presusre in your chest try this.

Sit and get relaxed and start the tapping sequence without saying anything. Let your mind go over whatever is coming up for you. Let yourself feel the pressure..
Tapping while you are feeling this will lessen the pressure in a few moments if you allow yourself to feel it and tap.

Tapping is very quick in releasing trauma, especially when you are in the energy. When you are panicking you are defiantely in the energy.

If you can't do anything else..
Try emergency tapping.
Tap your upper heart spot... Then below your nose and back and forth between the two until you calm down. Breathe as best you can, deep and slow.. Breathe and tap...

Lastly, Here are some to try tapping on, if you feel like you can.

Even though I have this pressure in my sternum, I still deeply and completely accept myself.

Then if you still feel it,
Then do a tapping round of

This pressure in my sternum feeling, (Just this phrase)

Then another round of,

This remaining pressure in my sternum feeling... ( just this phrase)

Then try,

Even though during reiki treatments I get this aura shaking feeling, I still deeply and completly accept myself.

This aura shaking. ( 1 ROund)

This remaining aura shaking. (1 round)

Even though I'm afraid to let this feeling go, I still deeply and completely accept myself.

I"m afraid to let go. ( or I"m terrified to let go!)

This remaining fear of letting go.

Even though I"m anxious I"ll never be over this problem, I still deeply and completely accept myself..

This anxiety that I can't get over it.

Remaining anxiety I"ll never get over it.

Even though I'm afraid I can't get over the fear that the terrorists might strike again, I still deeply and completely accept myself.

Fear of being bombed again.

Remaining fear of being bombed again.

And one of my favorites...
No matter what, I love and respect myself..
Tap between ring and little finger on left then right hand.. I Forgive anyone who may have contributed to this situation I find myself in now. I let them Go. I know that only hurt people hurt others.
Say this again by tapping the inside of your pointer finger. Use at least three fingers of the other hand to tap.

Then Say, I Forgive myself for anything I did to contribute to this experience. Tap between little and ring finger.
Then repeat and tap inside of pointer finger.

Lastly,
Tap whilst saying, ( Tap all over.. I even tap on chakras if inclined)

I Am safe,
I Am peaceful,
I Am Love
I Am Loving
I Am Forgiveness
I Am Strong
I Am hopeful
I Am courageous
I Am healed
I Am Whole
I Am Life
I Am goodness itself
I Am strength
I AM centered
I AM Grounded,
I Am in my body,
I Am Relaxed
I Am that I AM
I AM Light,
I AM Love, ALL Love, ALL Love, ALL Love

Just keep tapping these,, Maybe two or three rounds to really get it into the body.

These are just a few and if you would like me to create a few more I'd be most happy to.

Bless you,
Jahnavi

Namaste Jahnavi,

Thank you so much for the advice. I must say though - I do not practice the EFT on myself. Someone else does it to me. Though I will be learning the full method from him soon, this is something I need to get over as soon as possible.

Thanks for the encouragement - I really really need it. Such a lot of energy flows through the simple act of encouragement - I need support so much more than medication. I am printing this post and will take it to my therapist and friend tomorrow - we'll follow the instructions and I'll tell you what happens.

Thanks for the warm hug too - brilliant energy!

Esin (feeling better after this post :-)))

Otoharo!

Since you admit that you are using this reiki board to find clientele for teaching something else, I recommend you use the board for Anything but Reiki for your teaching. And forther more, Mike states that this is not set up for teaching at all.

finality

Dear Esin,

I have experienced that sort of thing with many reiki people working on me at once at first when I got into it and the solution for me is to say enough. You have to learn to set boundries with people which is hard but only you know how hard something is for you. Also I hope you are getting quality counseling along with meds.
You could have some one who knows energy work real well, not necessarily reiki work on you. Get references.

good luck,

peace,

Prosperity

Dear Firekeepre,

It's okay - what I have experienced is not necessarily private anymore. I am willing to let others share.

The spasms are usually located in the abdominal cavity - mainly sacral area. I suspect that the diaphragm sets off the stomach and I feel as if I'm going to throw up but it comes up dry - then my intestines get in a knot. Sometimes it's the throat as well.

Yes - I sometimes black out for a few seconds before and after the spasms. But how did you know?

These used to happen during panic attacks but eventually when I went in to EFT therapy the panic subsided and only the symptoms came out occasionally during the sessions (all the sessions have started with Reiki and aome were only Reiki when I couldn't tolerate the effects of EFT.)

So that is the answer to the question of "where?"

I am so relieved I have not had a panic attack for almost two months, and I suspect this is probably the "last frontier" as it were.

Thank you for your help Firekeeper - I'll be writing here more regularly from now on to share my experiences with you all.

:-))

Esin

Hello Finality,
Were you speaking to me about teaching?
As far as looking for clientele, I am not. I posted anything I was teaching in the proper forum weeks ago. That was for SSR classes. I'd give this type of information to anyone who is suffering. Its helping, not looking for clients. I formally teach at the center near my home in person. $$'s not everything to me.

I was simply showing her a way to empower HerSelf to heal since she says she has used EFT before now.
Since you mention it though, if she wasn't overseas, I'd love to have her call me and give her assistance anytime she liked. I help lots of my friends on the phone. Never charged yet. :}
Alas, the distance is too great for that.

Blessings,

Jahnavi

Hey Esin, *hugs and smiles**

Blessings to you on your path. I'm so glad you enjoyed the information given.
I love the swiftness of EFT. Thankfully a woman on this board named Blackearth gave it to me a few years ago and this year especially I've turned around because of its amazing power to remove emotional debris.

I wish I lived closer to you! Overseas would be way to costly by phone.
But once you get proficient at EFT I could send some pointers your way if you are interested.. I think I mentioned that before hand.
Oh Yes, something I read in the page that comes to me weekly.
Don't over look tapping for guilt!

I'll keep you in my heart and my prayers that you find the balance and release your looking for. :}
I have all the faith you already know the way.

Much love and appreciation for who you really are and the shifts your moving throug now,

Jahnavi

Thanks for your reply Prosperity - however if when you mention saying "enough" you mean the person working on me, I never felt that way at all. The person who is treating me is also someone I work together with now as a Reiki Master / Teacher.

To tell the truth, I would never have attempted EFT (especially after my experiences with EMDR - very effective but terribly difficult to tolerate, with crushing residue later on) unless I trusted him completely.

Funnily enough that was what came up today between us - I suspect it's not just the EFT but mainly the Reiki work we do around it that helps. Simple EFT from any practitioner would not have helped my case - I am sure of that. PTSD is just too dangerous to let lie.

Before this treatment, I tried "proper" doctors, some members may remember, I was almost suicidal last summer, and conventional treatment nearly drove me over the edge later. Luckily I live to tell the tale but I do not remain unscathed. The experience has left its marks on me.

Yet I have to say, Reiki has such a strange way of working with us - I met the person who was eventually to turn things around for me through mysterious coincidences which, put together, would make a fine story indeed.

All that "quality counselling" (which I do receive and is paid for in full due to the circumstances I mentioned) is truly insufficient compared to trust and confidence. With the help of many good friends and my Reiki Master work partner and therapist, I managed to come to a state of acceptance through their dedication and confidence in my will. I thank God for this.

I believe the tranquillizers would never have been necessary had I refused to take the anti-depressants. That was an ignorant mistake on myu part. The tranquillizers were given as a precautionary measure when I began to have convulsions and horrific panic attacks. I spent many hours in the emergency room last year.
Otherwise, I now think that people with PTSD should be evaluated with much more care - not everyone reacts the same way to every treatment perscribed.

I also go to an acupuncturist who is an MD and she has verified the effects of the energy treatment I am receiving at present.

Thank you for your kind concern, and yes, I will always need the good luck - love and light to you :-))

Esin

Jahnavi hi -

We tried your suggestions today and we were really happy with them - I had brought along a printout with me when we began the session.

Thanks for your help :-)))

Esin

Otoharo!

Susan, I am a participant here, like everyone else. I boject to your use of this reiki board when you are not sharing about reiki. You can do what you do on another board it seems to me like. And I never mentioned money. That thought came from you, not me. In fact you sound like a preacher who goes around procislliting everyone else. I looked at your profile, and found that you are a preacher doing just that. Preaching your cause.

finality

dEAR Esin,

I didn't mean to imply that your reiki teacher was inappropriate or anything. It's good you are aware of PTSD and working through it. Conventional treatments have their place yet now days it's too much with anti-depressants. I remember years ago I wanted to try them and had to exaggerate and go in front of a panel of doctors to convince them I needed some. Some times chemicals help yet if they made me feel funny I get off of them right away even though doctors say give it 6 weeks. At least you gave them a try and know which ones never to take again. Do you mind mentioning which ones they were if you remember as I have to write down which ones I've took or I forget. Thanks for your post.

blessings,

Prosperity

Hey Finality,
You can take any objections you have to FK or to Mike.
I was seeking to assist her becasue she was suffering. That is my service to the world and my heart goes out to her.

I was replying to Esin about her use of EFT and REIKI which she placed here on this BOARD. You wrote to me about advertising and about teaching.
I was showing her a way to help herself. If you don't like the style of my writings there is always the option of not reading. :}

I can write anyway I like. SHE being the person whom I was intending the EFT ( Which is NOT Religious thank you) for actually was able to use the information for her benefit.
I"m sorry if that offends you.

Lastly, yes I'm a reverend. But I'm spiritual and in no way religious. I have a big love of Spirit thats all. You will see it the way you choose.

Blessings,
J

Otoharo!

Susan, I never did read your posts until the time I first posted. Anything as long winded as you are never appealed to me. I just wonder why you choose to use this collection of people sharing reiki when you do not have reiki nor are you interested in reiki. Why do you not establish a board for people who are looking for EFT and offer your services there. You obviously are here looking for people to serve. And over 5,000 people have chosen this reiki site not EFT. As a participant I can object whether anyone else does or not.

finality

Dear Prosperity,

I'm aware you weren't implying anything :-)) - sometimes it's difficult to convey emotions through the written word. Yes, I am very glad I am working through my issues. Frankly, PTSD awoke many buried problems and perhaps this was a good thing too because it made me face myself with all my weaknesses as I had never been able to do before.

I also came to see what true compassion is and am very grateful to have so many loving friends.

I would like to tell everyone the names of the antidepressants I took, however I'm not sure it would be the right thing to do. Suffice it to say, these medications target your brain. Please be aware that there are warnings about them in the package, on the internet and even on the news. Not everyone's brain chemistry is the same - you could be doing yourself more harm than good.

I admitted last year that I took recreational drugs once and suffered greatly immediately after. It was much much worse with the antidepressants I was given - I was able to tolerate only one brand for over 6 weeks and that made absolutely no difference to my condition whatsoever. I was still agitated, sleepless and suffering from panic attacks 6 weeks later, with the added disadvantage of drastic weight loss due mainly to a total loss of appetite (I was already underweight).

Anyway. Thanks for your answer, I'm thankful you are sharing all this with me.

Live long and prosper :-)

Esin

Dear Finality,

I must admit I was a little taken aback at your reaction to Jahnavi - I personally found the information she gave me very useful and not at all long winded. I think that this is rather dependent on one's personal point of view.

My EFT therapist is also a Reiki Master and his technique of using EFT always within Reiki sessions suited Jahnavi's suggestions very well - He channeled Reiki and did a full treatment, after which we used one of her proposed phrases during the tapping sequence while I continued the Reiki flow on myself.

We finished off by trying out the chakra tapping and we both thought the voicing of a heartfelt wish really helped, especially when shared as in prayer.

I am loving,
I am loved,
I am what I am,
I am love.

What better way to reach out to the divinity within us? If this is not Reiki, pray, what is?

Esin :-)

Otoharo!

Esin, I am very glad that you recieved the help that you needed when you needed it. Whatever it was that helped. I am glad. None of the things I said to Susan were meant to affect you. Perhaps I should have emailed.

finality

Otoharo!

We are all one, yes. I have more to say. During the years that Encounter Groups were being formed everywhere, and people were being trained in how to lead them, one pointer that stood out to me in this setting, was, that when one sat in a group with other people for the purpose of healing each other with our issues, usually those things that stand out to other people but which we are unable to see ourselves, there was the injunction, ask permission each instance before saying something to another person. for instance, A has a behavior pattern that I observe that makes me wonder whether she feels Z. Instead of asking her outright, do you feel Z? Instead, I would say something like this, A, may I make a comment to you? At that moment, even though she is in the group for the purpose of getting help or being able to help herself, whatever, she may be feeling too vulnerable at that moment to welcome a personal comment from someone else. So I ask permission first. As a metaphor, I would never barge in and say, I have this pill I know it is going to help you, here, let me throw it down your throat.

finality

I actually had my first experience with a shaking type feeling a couple of days ago. I was giving reiki to my partner while we were resting. I felt that the energy I was channelling was so strong that it made me shudder and shake but it felt very pure and good. I hope everything works out for the best for you.