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Hi,
Although I've been trained by 2 masters in 1st degree and 2 masters in second degree and 1 master in 3rd degree, I am considering another teaher in 3rd degree as my last RM was one I had doubts about.
Is this normal or am I overdoing it? This last teacher charges $600.00 for a 6 month commitment. I've never heard of 3rd degree taking so long. Once a month for reiki practice maybe. Any opinions would be appreciated. My first RM died and have lost track of my 2nd RM who doesn't live in my state.
thanks,
peace,
Prosperity

Dear Prosperity,

It sounds like you already know where you want the boat to go with this one. ; )

Price wise I think that over $200 for an attunement and follow up is approaching gougy but that's me. I'm sure some other could present a compelling contra argument. Perhaps set your sights for an RM who you resonate with who seems helpful and feels that she/he is enjoying abundance at the $200-ish range per attunement.

Namaste,
Michael

Otoharo!

Prosperity, there are many reiki people who require one year at least for apprenticeship for reiki 3.

finality

This is not the way I did it, but I actually don't think it is a bad idea. If this is a good teacher, you might learn alot. I asked my teacher and others many questions for at least a year after I did Level III. Now, I redid all my levels in the process of becoming a Teacher, which our line separates out. At any rate, even with the same Master Teacher, I got alot out of repeating. Our line charges $300 for the level III attunement, but if this person is going to spend a good amount of time with you over the 6 months, then they might be giving you your money's worth. Bottom line for me would be how good a Teacher this person is.....more like a mentor?
Food for thought,
Feather

Unfortunately there are charlatans in every business including the wonderful world of reiki......a good master can pass all the knowledge and attunements for 3rd degree over an intense 2 day course at a cost of no more than $300-400 USD. It sounds as if you need reassurance of your reiki abilties by having so many...I would trust your reki instincts and develop your reiki light using your own inutition.

Hi Gavstar
I doubt there is a Reiki master/teacher alive who can pass all of the knowledge about Reiki over in 2 days. Many of us who have been involved in Reiki for a number of years still will admit to knowing little. Much of the knowledge of Reiki is internal and that can't be taught really, it is something that you come to know.
I have spent the last 2 years quite extensivly researching Reiki etc, I still have a lot to learn.

Prosperity
Does this teacher seem right to you? If you break it down $600 usd is not to bad a price to pay for something that is with you for life. It would appear that you will be getting really extensive training. That is so good. If it feels right, go for it

Namaste

Rob
Truth is not a property of language because language has not been able to express abstract ideas as efficiently as concrete items

I agree, however I dont think I was clear in that I was responding purely to the action of qualifying for the reiki 3......I have been doing this for 7 years and every week discover something for myself in reiki that I didnt know was possible...the degrees merely set you on your way rather than a complete works as it were.

I have been a Reiki lll Master for a while now. I TOOK ONE ATTUNEMENT FOR EACH DEGREE AND FOUND OUT THAT IS ALL THERE IS. Reiki will teach you the rest. it is all knowing. besides their are 5944 Reiki's right here to help you.
Your are on a life time path of learning.
If you have the Reiki symbols the three degree attunements
you have it all

Blessing
TNT

Prosperity,

/*\ Namaste :-}}

- as a Reiki 2 I assisted with Reiki classes for about a year before considering doing the Master|Teacher stuff (after six months the Teacher I assisted surprised me by handing me a check for 10% of the fees the students paid for the classes) - tithing of a different sort, I would say

bagl

- anyhow, the time I spent assisting was my choice - the Teacher asked if I would like to start assisiting and I chose to do so (as a way to advance my development and have more time to do some hands-on reiki - sort of one and the same thing, afterall).

>:-}}

- so for myself? time spent learning the Master's trade, so to speak, is something I valued and recommend

- I do not support short-cuts

- good luck, enjoy the commitment.

>:-}}

Reiki All Around,

All Blessings,

Firekeeper

There is no such thing as a shortcut ....it is a subjective matter.What works for one might not work for another
My reiki master/teacher who is by far the best reiki teacher I have ever experienced allows students to progress at the the rate they feel comfortable with supportung the widely held view that reiki has its own intuition and therefore the individual thrives at their own pace and rate...I say again there is no such thing as short cut in reiki

gavstar,

/*\ Namaste :-}}

- human endeavors are replete with short cuts people take and Reiki is not excepted

- so, we will simply have to agree to disagree

>:-}}

- as I have been doing energy work, including Reiki, for a goodly number of years, my own counsel will I keep as to what is a shortcut

>:-}}

- the following are a few examples of what I consider 'short-cuts': distance attunements; Reiki 1 and 2 in the same weekend or Reiki 2 with less that 6 months hands-on practices after Reiki 1; Master training with less than 1 year of distance work and further hands-on Reiki since Reiki 2 attunements

- yes, I am fairly conservative about training and practice in any sort of energy work - responsibility, responsibility, responsibility

- oh yes, and? practice, practice, practice

>:-}}

Reiki All Around,

All Blessings,

Firekeeper

Hi Firekeeper,

Namaste :>}}

Just to say I so agree with your assessment of what you consider to be shortcuts!!

L & L,

philanty

Dear Gavstar,

In my annocdotal intuition I've noticed that each attunement really takes at least a year for the average person to digest / acclimate. Of course one can get all three slammed in via a weekend intensive but the clearing acclimation process still runs it's course except more intensly. With only a cert. and photo copied manual as mentor.

Often times a new Weekend Reiki Master will throw out a shingle and reap some abundance attuning others and perhaps mentoring when they themselves have very little intuitive grasp on how Reiki is woven into the great tapestry and themself. Two attunements in one year is considered hasty by many in the know. Unless of couse the attunee is really spending alot of time working/learning but who has full time for that typically.

My first and very profound attunement was via distance (which I would not reccommened). That first attunement acclimation took a good year just to get my toupee back on straight. A real seat of the pants ride for the first 7 months. I was extremely lucky the that I happened across the Reiki Cafe. Before long I had interacted with not one but many who I would later consider to be mentors. And many other Cafe patrons that I've learned something from. Most people have only a few other Reiki people in thier personal realm. In my time spent interacting at the Reiki Cafe I have interacted with a population of Reiki people. Like living in ReikiTown.

Namaste,
Michael

Dear Feather,
From what I gather it's once a month after the attunement. I know who her teacher was and yet have not done Reiki with him nor am I that impressed by outward appearances. He seems pleasant and intelligent. It's hard to tell. She works for a local massage college when enough students sign up.
thanks for your response.
peace,
Prosperity

Dear Gavstar,
Teaching others before one is prepared is a shortcut & ego surely can lead one down that road. Anything that is worthwhile is worth time and patience.
I doubt that Reiki has "intuition" or "intelligence". People have intuition and intelligence, using it is another matter.
Many people do better when they go at their own pace. Some need a bit of prodding. IMHO,allowing students to develop at their own pace is more about the teacher than it is about Reiki.

peace & joy,
holobon

Dear Firekeeper,
I myself also do not support shortcuts. My last RM seemed to do so and not sure if she was even attuned or initiated as she did the 10 sessions to be a RM. Hence my reason for wanting to do another class in 3rd degree.
Thank you for your response,
peace,
Prosperity

philanty,

/*\ Namaste :-}}

- so glad to see you again. I trust everypone at home is well.

- it has certainly been my honor these past years to have been on the same page as you in such matters.

>:-}}

- take care,

Reiki All Around,

All Blessings,

Firekeeper

OK then we disagree reiki does have its own intelligence that is one of the first thigs we learn...it is energy afetr all. Noone here has yet successfully defined a shortcut to me.......each to their own of course.

Usui taught theat reiki hasd its own intelleigence of sorts as do most western practioners and teachers

Dear Gavstar,
One of the cool things about the Cafe is that different view points are expressed. Ive learned quite a bit that I was not exposed to by my teachers. Ive even changed my opinions a few times thanks to the patience of others here.
"It is energy after all"...exactly. Energy has characteristics and properties that define it. Have never seen anyone demonstrate that Reiki has intelligence or is able to think although that conclusion has been drawn. When Reiki works on issues other than what we are concentrating on, does that demonstrate intelligence or simply that the energy travels along some sort of connecting pathways, connections that are invisible to the naked eye.
Oh well, enough of that. Pass the cream,please, my coffee is getting cold!! :)

peace & joy,
holobon

Firekeeper, namaste ....

Thank you (blush!)

All are well, thank you, and I hope the same can be said for you and yours? ... I am just, like most people I guess, rather frantically busy most of the time! From having no grandchildren nearby now we have four!!

And I try to keep three days a week for Reiki patients ... so time seems to be passing faster than ever these days :>}}

Love and light,
philanty

I agree completely with you......how we perceive reiki ourselves as individuals and what we find is effective is all that matters...none of us are really in a position to pass a finite judgemnet on some thing like the energy of reiki./....

To me Reiji Ho is how reiki demonstrates intuition and intelligence and that is how I use it!

Anyway heres the cream !!!

Prosperity,

The $600 seems fair to me for 6 classes, even if they are "practice sessions." Having someone SKILLED there to help you interpret sensations, psychic information, etc., could be well worth the expense, especially if you practice professionally. It should make you a more effective healer.

Six months is about right (in my opinion) to become Reiki III-skilled. Your body and mind and spirit undergo profound changes as a Reiki II and III, and I think too many people get in quickly, go through the I, II, and III in too little time and then don't know what they are doing. And less-than-skilled "practitioners" hurt all of us when they are out in the field, because Reiki is discounted as a healing system.

We can all only be responsible for the way we learn and practice..."whatever makes sense and feels right to you", as they all say!

Be good-

Ken

Otoharo!

I have one question. Do you have the opportunity to sit in on classes taught by other masters? This was the most valuable part of my training. I recommend that you do that. All you have to do is call up all the masters you can find within about fifty miles and ask to audit their classes. Some will charge you a small fee, and it is worth it.

finality

Otoharo!

Gavstar, What strikes me is your statement that so many others say that reiki has its own intellegence. I find that it is my body that provides the intellegence that sees to it that reiki is where the body needs are, not reiki, per se. You can not give reiki an intellegence test. Just because "so many others say so" means nothing to me. The majority is seldom right on anything.

The act of "holding the energy" allows reiki energy to be present and all people can assess it. It does not mean that reiki of itself goes into everything and everybody to "do something".

Being a leader and a teacher makes one not a member of the bunch.

finality

Dear Finality.
That is a good idea. I like it and will do it!
thanks,
Prosperity