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Respect

posted at 11/2/2005 6:22 AM
ID# 88161
In doing some brief reading of whats been going on lately it seems that many here have forgotten a simple thing called respect.

We have always respected others opinions on this board and had some spirited debates without attacking.

There is an energy on this board now that is not nice, not peaceful and needs cleansing.

I do believe that we all need to take a step back and re-center. Everyone has an opinion, like dandelions on my lawn, and has a right to state them. Let us not state our opinion as a fect others MUST adhere to but rather let them add to the collective knowledge here.

People read and decide for themselves what is right for them. If you push, others will push back.

Let your beautiful energies flow and respect will be gained
in grace.

I am not the best at getting my points across in writing so I hope I did OK here. You are all loved here, pass it on.

In the light,
Tracey

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posted at 11/2/2005 7:31 AM
ID# 88170
This is a reply to: 88161
Hi Tracey,

Thanks for the gentle reminder :)I agree, I think it is getting a bit heated and tetchy.

Time for self Reiki and 'just for today do not anger' :)

Gentle Blessings
Helen

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posted at 11/2/2005 8:04 AM
ID# 88171
This is a reply to: 88161
Hi Tracey,
You have read my mind. My voice was silenced by the desire not to fan the flames. It is a relief to read your words.
If we can not maintain respect here, at a site designed as a retreat, is it any wonder that respect is so lacking in the world?

peace & joy,
holobon

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posted at 11/2/2005 9:23 AM
ID# 88190
This is a reply to: 88161
Tracey,

/*\ Namaste :-}}

- I am with you on that one

>:-}}

Reiki All Around,

All Blessings,

Firekeeper

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posted at 11/2/2005 1:04 PM
ID# 88206
This is a reply to: 88161
Dear Tracey,

You got your point across beautifully, sister!

The lack of respect being displayed on this forum lately by some is bewildering. We come here to this community with Reiki as our commonality, most of us on spiritual paths, and here we have a deluge of disrespect. I guess we're seeing the real need for self-healing.

We should be able to post, disagree, discuss...without dissolving into yelling (as in all CAPS...geez!), mockery and name calling. The discussions are wonderful so I don't understand the endless cries to just halt the conversation. But the boxing gloves really need to come of. Personally, I'd love to enter the discussion but I won't fan the flames to do so.

Thank you for posting this, my friend...I love feeling your wonderful energy here!!

Lesley

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posted at 11/2/2005 2:24 PM
ID# 88214
This is a reply to: 88161
Tracy,

Thanks for posting this. I only now realized that I did
not post the most important rules about this site in the about section. It rarely needed to be said.

This site is meant to be a warm and fuzzy retreat from what can often be a nasty world. It's meant to be a place where you can find friendly people and bask in the warmth. Reiki and issues about Reiki is secondary to this.

Name calling and personal insults towards others are strictly prohibited!

I can't stress this enough so I will state it again:

Name calling and personal insults towards others are strictly prohibited!

I have no interest in what people believe, but I do have an interest in keeping this site free of personal attacks. A long time ago I had given Firekeeper responsibility of acting as modirator because he does the job MUCH better than I would. I'm not nearly as nice,nor tolerant as he is and am more prone to just ban people without so much as a warning.

Keep in mind that this is a private, moderated forum and There is no freedom of speech here in that you are not free to insult others. That is simply the rules of this forum.

Unfortunatly, I have not made this clear in the About section and I will fix that soon.

That being said, I will leave it up to everyone to keep this in mind when posting.

-Mike

dakota said on

>In doing some brief reading of whats been going on lately it seems that many here have forgotten a simple thing called respect.
>
>We have always respected others opinions on this board and had some spirited debates without attacking.
>
>There is an energy on this board now that is not nice, not peaceful and needs cleansing.
>
>I do believe that we all need to take a step back and re-center. Everyone has an opinion, like dandelions on my lawn, and has a right to state them. Let us not state our opinion as a fect others MUST adhere to but rather let them add to the collective knowledge here.
>
>People read and decide for themselves what is right for them. If you push, others will push back.
>
>Let your beautiful energies flow and respect will be gained
>in grace.
>
>I am not the best at getting my points across in writing so I hope I did OK here. You are all loved here, pass it on.
>
>In the light,
>Tracey

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posted at 11/2/2005 2:36 PM
ID# 88217
This is a reply to: 88214
Hi Mike,

Thanks for taking the time to clarify the rules of the forum.

Gentle Blessings
Helen

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posted at 11/2/2005 3:11 PM
ID# 88223
This is a reply to: 88217
I think that respect is still held in many cases on these threads that have these contentious issues ......I hold everyone in the grestest respect for even being here and even more for being REKI....nothing wrong with a bit of lively chat we are not dead YET!

I just find it difficut dealing with all this censorship of posts...some of them have mildly offended me but they dont get removed yet teachers pets seem to have theirs kept on......

If the subscribers of this site could all be privy to the PMs and emails I get form many other users then this site would have imploded years ago....if you can't state it on the forum becasue it gets censored whats the point./..we are not a bunch of wet papper bags are we..

I want to reiterate that I have great respect for all of you and what you do but with this ridculous prefential censroship the cultural differnces between nations is starting to show and it should not

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posted at 11/2/2005 3:32 PM
ID# 88228
This is a reply to: 88214
Mike,

Hi,

Don't see you around much but thanks for clearing the air.

Cheers,

RC

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posted at 11/2/2005 3:34 PM
ID# 88229
This is a reply to: 88223
gavstar,

I have been a member of this site for a good couple of years, maybe more. I can remember the time when there were only 13 or so members anyway :)

I have never seen any hint of the censorship of which you speak. In fact I usually only ever see friendship, kindness and compassion here. It has indeed always been a haven to retreat to. At times points are made bluntly, some people are more direct than others, whilst others dress it up a little :) That's just the way of human beings isn't it, irrespective of culture or anything else? Added to that, the written word is not always a very effective way of communication because it lacks the 'body language' that often softens the point being made.

I am English, just as you, but I can see no preferential censorship or cultural differences, never have done. I consider these people both friends and teachers. I have learnt and continue to learn so much here and I have the greatest respect for those that take the time to run the forum and those that participate here.

I think that most of us agree that there is nothing wrong with lively chat as long as it stays respectful and doesn't get 'personal'.

Gentle Blessings
Helen

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posted at 11/2/2005 3:44 PM
ID# 88232
This is a reply to: 88229
Helen,

/*\ Namaste :-}}

- yes, past and present all counted, would you believe the count to be some 450 members from the UK??

>:-}}

- and, thanks again for cluing me in to Cornish pasties

>:-}}...

Reiki All Around,

All Blessings,

Firekeeper

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posted at 11/2/2005 3:54 PM
ID# 88234
This is a reply to: 88232
Firekeeper,

Namaste :))

Wow 450 just from over here, that's amazing! :)

Ah yes Cornish pasties lol Now if you didn't live so far away I would make one for you and Mrs Firekeeper and send it, but alas it would be olde mouldy by the time it got there :))

Gentle Blessings
Helen

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posted at 11/2/2005 4:09 PM
ID# 88237
This is a reply to: 88234
helen,

/*\ Namaste :-}}

- a most kind offer, See!! >:-}}....

bagl

- and, as my UK friend Brian would say about sending something to The States: "for the purposes of Her Majesty's Snail Express, contracted out to Thieveit,
Dropit and Chuckit and Co. Ltd., it is on it's way!!".

- now, don't get me wrong - bagl - I have had nothing but good results with UK mails (there and across the Big Pond) and the 'goods' arrived in perfect order (but did not require refrigeration)

- and, I would hope to one day get back to the UK with Mrs. Firekeeper and perhaps share a pastie and a wee dram (or two) with you and yours

>:-}}

Reiki All Around,

All Blessings,

Firekeeper

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posted at 11/2/2005 4:18 PM
ID# 88239
This is a reply to: 88161
Dear Dakota
I know this is what you keep hearing but I can't thank you enough for bringing this up. I am fairly new to this forum. I joined earlier this year and I too have notice the change in tone since then. As a result I haven't participated as much as I would like or even really had a chance to get to know some of you that have taught me so much already.Normally I would not let this stop me but we live in a world littered with negative energy that I have to protect myself from on a daily basis and I count on this forum to be a beacon of Love,light, knowledge, and empowerment no matter what are differences are.I believe we all have a lot to learn from each other even if we disagree.
Thank you again for bringing it back into light.
Love&Light
Shannon

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posted at 11/2/2005 4:50 PM
ID# 88247
This is a reply to: 88223

gavstar,

I've been around here since before this board was this board (there was another cafe site before this one) I guess that has been almost 6 years.

I've seen people chastised and their posts deleted and I've been chastised. (Imagine that and I was sure that next to Louise I had to be a favorite, I mean after all just look at my sweet, bright smile :-)) (BTW for those wondering, yes Louise got her claws clipped more than once :-))

Even though I've been on the receiving end I have generally felt that there was cause for actions taken to chastise posters, delete posts, and on rare occassion to ban a poster from the site.

We may not always agree with the action taken but there has to be a line in the sand somewhere and someone to patrol it. Be thankful it is Peter cause I'm more the 'off with their heads' type.

:-))

As far as disgruntled members.

You can't please all the people all the time and in a group this large there is always going to be a certain percentage of mal contents or those who are temporarily upset over something said or done.

Personally, the 'censorship' is one of the reasons I am still here. I have seen an awful lot of boards that are unmoderated that disintegrate quickly into ugly hateful places.

Walk in beauty,
Rebecca

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posted at 11/2/2005 4:55 PM
ID# 88250
This is a reply to: 88239
I bring up the age old problem with forums...we have to write to each other ////if we sat in a room many of us would be less brave about our posts..if we could see each others faces and expressions we would all react differntly..I wish I could see you all.....

See you all soon

Night night !

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posted at 11/2/2005 5:01 PM
ID# 88255
This is a reply to: 88237
Firekeeper,

Namaste :))

You would of course be most welcome next time you come to the uk, we would be most honoured to share a cornish pastie and a couple of wee drams with you and Mrs Firekeeper :)

Gentle Blessings
Helen

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posted at 11/2/2005 5:11 PM
ID# 88256
This is a reply to: 88255
helen,

/*\ Namaste :-}}

- our, honor for certain.

- and how great if we could get that organized

- who knows!!

>:-}}

Reiki All Around,

All Blessings,

Firekeeper

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posted at 11/2/2005 5:16 PM
ID# 88259
This is a reply to: 88250
Gavstar,

/*\ Namaste :-}}

- if you are saying it does not take much courage to insult others on the internet?? I am in total agreement.

>:-}}

- sleep well, dream well, be well

Reiki All Around,

All Blessings,

Firekeeper

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posted at 11/2/2005 5:35 PM
ID# 88260
This is a reply to: 88259
Yes I guess that is what I am saying..its far too easy to lob an insult at soemone form the cosy confines fo your office at your PC.

Having just watched the news here in the Uk lets remember Rosa Parks who one day went.."I dont want to be pushed around anymore, I dont want be censored as an individual and I have the right to speak my mind"...this is a reminder for all of you who believe we should have censored posts! I think there were people durng this time in her life who thougt she was being terribly disrespectful but all she was doing was saying her piece...please let us all say what we want here////dont lets become a centre of mediocrity

Todays supposed disresepct is tomoorows inrgrained policy...it has happenned every day during history infinitum

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posted at 11/2/2005 5:59 PM
ID# 88264
This is a reply to: 88260
Dear Gavstar,
I have sat and read your posts with great interest. You speak with such conviction and yet feel so convicted.

My post came of a place of love for all who post here, inluding yourself. I would dearly hope that were we to sit in a room together that I would still speak from the heart. It is difficult at times, of course, to this. I too have felt affronted by a reply to one of my posts but I always, yes, always, learned from what they had to say.

Instead of turning a blind eye, I turned that eye inward and found yet another place to work on.

I must say that one must find a place where they feel they belong. In my heart I say yes, you belong here as you have such energy and much to share but your energy can be off-putting and a bit too strong at times. I have learned to have great patience here and hope you will as well.

Much love and light to you,
Tracey

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posted at 11/2/2005 6:06 PM
ID# 88265
This is a reply to: 88260
Gavstar,

/*\ Namaste :-}}

- and yet forums such as these also allow some folks the chance for some 'healing bravery' - a chance to get ideas upon and perhaps even rehearse in anonymity things to say to someone in person (client, friend, spouse, well...., etc, etc)

Reiki All Around,

All Blessings,

Firekeeper

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posted at 11/2/2005 8:44 PM
ID# 88272
This is a reply to: 88265
If people would learn to Respond and and not react, then I feel that many of this getting really riled with each other would not happen.
Thing is thou, at times forums do seem to implode. With Reiki forums it is when permission is mentioned. I don't think any other subject raises so much passion.

So just for today Respond, don't react. Please :-}}

Namaste

Rob
Truth is not a property of language because language has not been able to express abstract ideas as efficiently as concrete items

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posted at 11/2/2005 11:21 PM
ID# 88274
This is a reply to: 88260
I kinda get where you are trying to go with the Rosa Parks analogy but fighting to be treated like a human instead of a worthless beast goes way beyond disrespect. If people thought she was beibg disrespectful it's because black people in America were not looked at or treated as humans.She took a stand for equality.

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posted at 11/3/2005 12:05 AM
ID# 88277
This is a reply to: 88272
rob,

/*\ Namaste >:-}}

- right! people implode, not forums, which are, afterall, simply venues for people

>:-}}

Reiki All Around,

All Blessings,

Firekeeper