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Clearing out my neighbor's home

posted at 1/21/2006 4:24 PM
ID# 89881
Recently, I have been clearing out my apartment more often by sending Reiki energy onto every wall, ceiling and floor in the place. The work area has been getting extra energy as well which has helped to increase my productivity.

However, there's more to the story than that. I decided to also send Reiki energy into the two neighbors apartments sharing my wall. This was to keep their negative energy seeping through to me as well as to give them peace in their homes. A couple nights ago, I was sending energy through to my neighbor beside me when I came upon something evil staring at me. I knew I was safe with the protection of Reiki around me. I first directed energy to it to scare it away which didn't work. Then I remembered a technique from one of my books on psychic attacks and commanded it to leave immediately in the name of Jesus Christ which it did. However, it only moved into the parking lot so I once again directed cleansing energy at it which destroyed the thing.

This is just the sharing of information.

Sincerely,
Jackie

re: Clearing out my neighbor's home

posted at 1/21/2006 10:50 PM
ID# 89888
This is a reply to: 89881
Jackie,

/*\ Namaste :-}}

- yes, the "risks" of sending energy where you do not have permission

>:-}}

- but, evil?? How do you know this?

>:-}}

Reiki All Around,

All Blessings,

Firekeeper

re: Clearing out my neighbor's home

posted at 1/22/2006 1:28 AM
ID# 89892
This is a reply to: 89881
Zookie,

Some people would view your actions as intrusive and assaultive. After all, if you had objects in your yard that your neighbors found offensive, would you like it if someone came uninvited onto your property and cleaned up your "mess"?

The construction of a ward (consider it an etheric wall) would accomplish the same end, i.e., your protection from someone else's "negativity," and without your having to tresspass, as it were.

While I'm warming to my topic, I'll go ahead and mention something else that has bothered me no end, and that's this business of sending things/critters "to the light."
People who would never dream of shooting a dog or cat that got into their trash seem to have no compunction at all about sending an incorporeal being "into the light" which is (unless I thoroughly misinterpret) a newage euphemism for killing it. The folks I read who speak of such things frequently a) have no idea what they're dealing with, and b) don't know of anything else to do with it. As well, all too often they aren't more than minorly inconvenienced by it, if that.

Come on, folks, if it ain't bothering you directly, live and let live...and please do try to come up with a more compasionate (and creative) response than simply exterminating it.

Bright blessings; hail Eris!
goldenisis


re: Clearing out my neighbor's home

posted at 1/22/2006 2:33 AM
ID# 89893
This is a reply to: 89881
Looks like I've stirred up a hornets nest! Well, here goes.

1) I know it's evil because I felt it and if you had a pair of eyes looking it you in such a way, you would think it's evil.

2) Some critters out there are created by people going in circles with negative thoughts. Some critters are simply blobs, not spirits, not souls. I have found some of these critters attached to my aura after a day out shopping. It's amazing what a person can bring home that's not on the shopping list other than the gooey gum on the bottom of my shoe! So yes, I will dissolve these critters and send this energy back to the Universe to be recycled for some better use.

3) As for the permission bit. I didn't send the occupants the energy, I simply sent energy in their surroundings. If they don't like it, then they can reject it.

re: Clearing out my neighbor's home

posted at 1/22/2006 8:31 AM
ID# 89894
This is a reply to: 89892
I have recently recognized what you describe. When fear is present, I also wonder if that mirroring concept is at work.

Katherine

re: Clearing out my neighbor's home

posted at 1/22/2006 9:20 AM
ID# 89895
This is a reply to: 89893
zookie,

/*\ Namaste :-}}

- nice try. No cigaro.
>:-}}

- you were invading someone else' space without permission (of course, you are not the only person who does energy work without permission)

- but, no worries, we all accumulate Karma according to the effects of our actions (which reflect the habits we have persisted with from past lives and cannot seem to break free of)

>:-}}


- as for what I think when I see eyes (or any other non-corporeal, for that matter - or lack of matter actually, bagl)??

- you have no clue so perhaps do not presume to tell me I what I would think. You are simply projecting your own fears onto me. Maybe you see evil everywhere but most of that will be a reflection of your own Shadow

>:-}}

Reiki All Around,

All Blessings,

Firekeeper

re: Clearing out my neighbor's home

posted at 1/22/2006 9:22 AM
ID# 89896
This is a reply to: 89894
katherine,

/*\ Namaste :-}}

- fear is largely a projection of our Shadow

Reiki All Around,

All Blessings,

Firekeeper

re: Clearing out my neighbor's home

posted at 1/22/2006 10:23 AM
ID# 89900
This is a reply to: 89892
While I do agree with you to some extent I ask this: What could be more comapssionate that sending a lost soul into the light of Home? Yes it is possible that some souls float around us because they choose to and are possibly keeping wathc over loved ones but in my opnion thay could do this from Home so why be here? Also I have come acroos some pretty nasty energies and my space was better off without them. Would it be suggested that I send the energy of a soul, that had spent its life molesting his sister and otherwise abusing her, that had continued to hang around her after death to cause further misery, out into the world to affect someone else?

I do not send every energy I see into the light but I do make my decision to this with much love and compassion.

On the other hand if I feel I am being threatened it takes a presence of mind that, is learned over time, to figure out if it is a real threat or a self imposed fear. I do agree with you that in this learning time there are some energies/souls that are unduly sent Home. I will admit that I have done this in a moment of fear before learning better.

Much love,
Tracey

re: Clearing out my neighbor's home

posted at 1/22/2006 10:26 AM
ID# 89901
This is a reply to: 89881
Zookie,
I must agree that trying to clear another's space was an intrusion even if done with good intention. Unfortunately we live, we learn, and good thing, keep on going with our gathered knowledge. Perhaps that nasty thing you saw was just your own higher self saying "stop, your crossing aline".

I do hope your own place feels nice and clean, a good idea to do everyso often when one does energy work.

Live, love, laugh,
Tracey

re: Clearing out my neighbor's home

posted at 1/22/2006 10:32 AM
ID# 89902
This is a reply to: 89895
Hi FK,
I don't think scaring Zookie with a threat of bad karma is a fix. If one learns from a mistake after they make it does that not reflect on ones karma also? repentant so to speak? I have often wondered about this.

By the way, have you wathced a show called "My Name is Earl"? A Karmic (comic) show. My daughter's favorite! I am teaching my kids about Karma little by little. My son, who is younger, sees the connection between doing something truly good for someone and seeing it return to the giver. My daughter is in her early teens and just says "whatever". :))

Love and laughter!
Tracey

re: Clearing out my neighbor's home

posted at 1/22/2006 12:46 PM
ID# 89907
This is a reply to: 89900
Dakota,

As I have never had the experience of returning a human soul "to the light," I can only say, and that theoretically, that I am not fond of making unilateral decisions for another. In short, have these souls been offered a chance to go, or was it made for them? Please know that I hear and appreciate your emphasis on compassionate action here; I'm just not sure we agree on this particular point.

As far as intrusive energies of one sort or another? They are asked three times to leave; after that, they are sent away, not extinguished. I don't go looking for trouble but I do firmly assert my right to be left alone in my space. I will further note that working on my own deficiencies made me much less attractive to some entities. I've also had the experience of having to interact with folks who have some pretty unpleasant hangers-on. My view is that it's not my business to "protect" the person from them (unless specifically asked) but only to keep them from bothering me.

I believe we are essentially in agreement here, particularly as expressed in your last paragraph.

Bright blessings; hail Eris!
goldenisis

re: Clearing out my neighbor's home

posted at 1/22/2006 1:10 PM
ID# 89908
This is a reply to: 89902
Tracey,

/*\ Namaste :-}}

- excuse me, but I never used the term "bad"

- you are projecting your own interpretation (and concerns) onto my comments about Karma

>:-}}

- Karma is not good or bad.

>:-}}

- and, it is important to grasp that what we do will have any number of unpredictable effects which will manifest back to us in some form or another at some point in the future (in this life or the next)

- and, the process is the same whether we act compassionately or otherwise

>:-}}

- and for myself? Meddling where I have not been invited does not become permissible simply because I feel what I am doing is compassionate - the object of my actions might feel quite differently - but I will never know this unless I ask

- permission, permission, permission

Reiki All Around,

All Blessings,

Firekeeper

re: Clearing out my neighbor's home

posted at 1/22/2006 1:18 PM
ID# 89910
This is a reply to: 89907
Warm hugs your way and yes, in general I believe we are in agreement. When I have sent an attachment away for a client it has always been with there permission and an explanation of possible consequence. Permission, permission! :)

As for where we differ that is what makes life interesting and where learning begins! LOL

Have a wonderful day:))))
Tracey

re: Clearing out my neighbor's home

posted at 1/22/2006 1:26 PM
ID# 89911
This is a reply to: 89908
You are so right you dd not say "bad" and was my interpretation. My apologies. As for compassion being a substitute for permission this is not what I meant, sorry if it came out that way. I was simply wondering if Karma was affected by our feelings of remorse for an action.

For instance, if I say something mean to a co-worker then I would expect to get it back in my face somehow ten fold. But... if I go back and apologize, make amends, does this alter the karmic effect somehow? If not, then why bother feeling sorry for our actions? (Just being devil's advocate here, this is not how I feel).

I really am interested in this so please, have you info regarding this?

Tracey

re: Clearing out my neighbor's home

posted at 1/23/2006 10:43 AM
ID# 89920
This is a reply to: 89881
Dear Zookie,
If you sent energy to your neighbors without their permission, could what you saw be their response to an unrequested visit? Like a DO NOT TRESPASS sign? Sounds as if you may have opened a channel instead of closing one.

peace & joy,
holobon

re: Clearing out my neighbor's home

posted at 1/23/2006 7:48 PM
ID# 89938
This is a reply to: 89881
Otoharo!

I am enjoying reading what you all are saying. My computer is not reliable so there are days that I can not be here.

In my training in Astro-Soul, one of the programs from Fransico Coll in the 70's and 80's, we learned how to talk to a soul who is residing in someone else's energy field. these we nick-named spooks. They were residents of the areas around earth that extend out to the edge of earth's magnetic field. No one belongs in this space. A person, not now in body belongs beyond earth's reach.

The system we learned is that a person, me for instance, stands behind the person needing the healing with hands on their shoulders. I would then go into trance. and allow the soul residing in the person's aura to talk. This system required another person to keep watch over the process and to be the one who asks questions of this unwelcome soul. this is the control person.

I go into trance, and as I leave, I am aware someone is wanting to use my voicebox. the control begins to ask questions of the soul, which we nick-named spook just to have a word that distinquishes them from us. The Control asks the spook to tell us their story. and may ask leading questions from time to time. Eventually the story comes out. Then on the basis of this information, the control then asks the spook if they see the light. They always do as at least one guide stays with each of us until we go home. that guide is seen as a light. at this point, they are asked to follow the light home. The spook then leaves, the one in trance is alerted, and the healing is done.

It was Francisco's desire to clear out the heavy dense energy that surrounds earth by these healings of each confused or antagonistic person who hangs around earth after death. We called them spooks to distinguish them from angels or guides who belong around us and live in our aura.

There were 3,000 discarnates (lights) who supported the Astro-Soul program. So there were these high souls who could assist from their vantage point. This work still goes on even though Francisco has gone home.

Otherwise, I only pay attention to what color energy I see when my eyes are closed. If it is light, so be it. If it is dark, i cue reiki to clear the darkness until all is light.

By taking care of my own energy field, then I can fill my space with my energy. My energy, then crowds out any unwelcome energies. That is how I do it.

finality

re: Clearing out my neighbor's home

posted at 1/23/2006 10:23 PM
ID# 89943
This is a reply to: 89881

dia
Zookie, hi, and peace. It is my understanding that when we send reiki to someone without asking first a process takes place among the reiki guides. Our guide must ask the guide of the person to receive reiki for permission, if that is yes, reiki flows, if that is no, for whatever reason, reiki does not flow. was your intention to help the people next door or protect yourself? if it was to protect yourself, all you need to do is establish a light grid around your house. draw the symbols and invoke a light grid, the guides do all the rest of the work. as far as something evil coming out of a "hole" caused by reiki, that simply cannot occure, that would be against all the laws of reiki..

as far as sending an "entity" into the light, when i detect something in a field, i "flick it" upwards, a technique taught by an old healer friend. i know that the guides above me know what to do with according to the laws of karma and the karmic board. i just do not have to worry about it. on this plane, i am here to heal, i leave all the big decisions to the souls above, there are on a higher level for a reason. lol

much peace to you all, Dia

re: Clearing out my neighbor's home

posted at 1/24/2006 4:44 AM
ID# 89946
This is a reply to: 89896
sorry KC, but 'bull',
I have 'seen' evil as well as 'good' energy,(eyes, whole bodies & also felt them), & why only should 'good' come through?...there are bad also...can't pick & choose!!
I ask 3 times in the name of Jesus for them to go else where, but if they don't 'well' I am not having them in my space,...they also have choices as to where to go, .....
I just tell them "TO GO, NOW" they are not welcome...(I don't Analise etc I go by 'the feeling'....
one 'CAN' tell evil from good, we seem to have a way of 'just knowing'...that's reiki for you, we 'just know'
luv to yer, Wendy xxx

re: Clearing out my neighbor's home

posted at 1/24/2006 8:18 AM
ID# 89947
This is a reply to: 89946
Otoharo!

Wendy, there IS no judgment, there is no good and evil. there just is. It is what we make of something that is helpful or not helpful. There are thought forms that have no existence. Much of what hangs around in the atmosphere around earth are thought forms only. Light dispells them. If they are spooks, they are souls who can choose. thought forms can not choose.

finality

re: Clearing out my neighbor's home

posted at 1/24/2006 9:55 PM
ID# 89960
This is a reply to: 89908
Dear FK,
It is true yet a hard lesson to learn how to MYOB. It took me years. One of the first things I was taught was that people have to ask before I can give Reiki to them or to their surroundings. Only where I am or to myself unless I ask permission.
peace,
Prosperity

re: Clearing out my neighbor's home

posted at 1/25/2006 3:09 AM
ID# 89966
This is a reply to: 89947
hi,
I really have no idea as to what you mean?
OK maybe Zookie saw a spook? we can't all tell one from another, all we know is they are 'NOT NICE',some I have had to deal with, meant me harm, not physically but mentally, or both, I didn't give 'him'..TIME so as to find out....:-)
I just tell them to go!..& let the (higher ups) take over...
Zookie also may have seen one of these spooks, as it's still in her car park!!!
luv to you Wendy xxx

re: Clearing out my neighbor's home

posted at 1/25/2006 9:34 AM
ID# 89970
This is a reply to: 89946
wendy,

/*\ Namaste :-}}

- if you are responding to my post then I am not KC.

bagl

- actually, I am not at all sure who KC is so I am not sure to whom you are 'speaking'

>:-}}

- but the issue remains. Despite the fact that there are, indeed, very unpleasant thought-forms around, it is also quite true that much of the "negative" we attribute to others is projection of our own Shadow and some of the 'evil' we may seem to sense may be traced there as well - or, in some cases, to a somewhat over-active imagination

- and denying one's own Shadow does not make this matter go away.

>:-}}

- afterall, the simple fact that one gets upset, when faced with people who callenge one's beliefs or with whom one disagrees, for example, is the Shadow speaking

>:-}}

Reiki All Around,

All Blessings,

Firekeeper

re: Update: Clearing out my neighbor's home

posted at 1/28/2006 8:47 AM
ID# 90032
This is a reply to: 89881
Thanks for sharing your thoughts and feelings on the matter! It was very enlightening. ;)

Things sure have settled down since I have been extending the Reiki energy into the apartment courtyard. The apartment mailboxes are attached to the outside wall of my livingroom and there hasn't been the usual slamming and kicking of the mailboxes as before. People aren't so loud coming home from the bars in the early morning hours. I have extended the energy field to the parking lot which decreased them coming home with the boom boxes in their car up to max. So this has helped people to calm down as they reach home. Hopefully, this will also help them to sleep better as well.

I have no quams about sending energy to people because I know that they will either accept it or reject it. Since I am not sending this energy with any hostility, people seems to be accepting it.

Talking about getting into other people's spaces, how about the movie "What the Bleep Do We Know!?" where a bunch of people meditated in Washington DC which reduced the crime rate one summer? Do you think they asked the criminals permission to calm them down?

In fact, I will discuss with the Reiki group at tonight's meeting if we can for a moment together send out Reiki energy throughout Houston. There has been too many murders, too many crimes in the last few months.

Sincerely,
Zookie

re: Update: Clearing out my neighbor's home

posted at 1/28/2006 7:50 PM
ID# 90036
This is a reply to: 90032
Otoharo!

During those years that i was involved with spiritual energy through the programs begun by Francisco Coll, we did cleansing exercises. It was Coll's life thrust to cleanse the energy darkening our planet. One of these projects was supported by 3,000 souls, called Test Tube Venture. these souls formed themselves into the inverted test tube formation at a specified time. We individually cleansed ourselves and began the cleansing technique, entering this formation astro-ly. (We avoided contact with the astral plain). When we passed over a city, we could notice changes as you have described. We did this weekly for a year and noted the decrease in crime in these places throughout the world. Energy work is far more powerful than we can comprehend. That was in the 70's and 80's. I remember passing over a city and seeing dark balls of energy rise like pop corn, popping as I passed over. We asked each other whether this were helpful in the long run. We decided that during the moment when a human had no dark energy, positive choices could be made as they felt clear headed.

Using Reiki we can do this also. Those of us who join in at specified time have noticed it. I am not a native of earth. Some of you are. that is, your first physical body is formed on the earth pattern. (My body comforms but did not originate here.) Earth people being reiki can have far reaching impact whether with a group or individually.

finality