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I realized that something was hindering me.
It was this question: How does this energy know
exactly where to go and what to do?

Is it intelligent? I know this sound like a dumb question.

thanks

angelsaround,

You are going to get other views on the subject since not everyone thinks as I do on this.

It is my personal belief that since Reiki is energy and energy has no intelligence that if not directed it flows as water does, to the lowest point. In the case of energy that would be the place where there is the least energy or where energy is most needed be it physical, mental, emotional, or spiritual.

If there is a restriction the energy will do the same thing that water does, it will back up and either 'break the dam' or find an alternate way to flow around it.

Walk in beauty,
Rebecca

Dear Angelsaround,
Energy does not have intelligence, "thinking ability". Energetic response is the result of the inherent properties of the energy & that which it comes in contact with. For example,when lightning strikes it does not decide on a target. The conditions that exist in the the environment, etc determine what the lightening is attracted to, where it flows. It is not the result of an intelligent choice.

Healing is a process in which much goes on "under the surface" without our awareness, we cant see it happening & that makes it so mysterious. What is intelligent is the decision to heal!

Body, mind & spirit are all connected even if the connections are not obvious to us. So we may choose to embrace Reiki to cure a specific physical ailment & find that an emotional wound is uncovered & begins to heal. That has been explained by some as "intelligence", that the energy knows where to go. IMHO, that is hogwash. But what do I know? :)

peace & joy,
holobon

Otoharo!

I have just hit by accident a button that erased my lengthen reply, so I am starting over!

I like both replies, above.

While watching the fire begin in my fireplace this early morning, I recalled a discussion I experienced while attending a Lazaris event. He described for us his observation of an experiment of scientists involving the behavior of matter. Matter enters our atmosphere from outer space all the time in its smallest particle form. The experiment involved a room with equipment set up to record where these bits of matter hit. When no human was looking, they hit in a random fashion. When anyone looked in at them, they hit the bull's eye!

This demonstrated how powerful is human intent.

Energy does what energy does. It is the intent of a human that provides the where that energy does its thing. The human body itself has human intent that guides it. And actually our language is inaccurate. Reiki as an energy is a beingness rather than a doingness. The intent of a human reiki practitioner triggers the beingness of reiki that results in healing of a human body.

In being, the doing gets done.

finality

The intelligent part of Reiki is the intent of the healer and the one receiving the healing.
The higher self of anyone already knows what their body,
mind and spirit needs.
All we have to remember is to be open channels and let Reiki energy flow.
I like the idea of flowing water, If you dam up a river,
it will go some where.

TNT

angelsaround,

/*\ Namaste :-}}

- people (or animals) must use ULE to heal themselves

>:-}}

- this is where intention and mindfulness come in and are so Key

- ULE is everywhere but it does not go anywhere "specific" on its own - to apply ULE "specifically", such as during sending Reiki to a specific person, requires Intention and Mindfulness

>:-}}

- then the person who has given permission to have the energy sent must have the intention and mindfulness to receive it and utilize it to their own well-being (ULE does not 'know what to do'

>:-}}

- so ULE, as energy, does not have intelligence as we humans define it

- does ULE have an intelligence we do not understand? I suppose that is possible but its putative nature is not accessible to our limited levels of development and understanding (if the intelligence exists at all)

bagl

- so, for all practical purposes I would offer that developing one's Mindfulness and raising the compassionateness of our Intentions is Key - and ULE will be whatever it is

>:-}}}

Reiki All Around,

All Blessings,

Firekeeper

Wow, that was a wonderful explination.
It really answered my question.

I appreciate you being there.

Namaste all!

I am just wondering about the instances when the sender and the receiver or, in case of self-reiki, the practitioner has a certain intention and is mindful, but lo and behold, reiki has brought on a lot more action than was intended. So, is this because the subconscious mind is wiser and hence has brought on a whole new set of issues than that was expected? or, is it because reiki has intelligence?

Mal

Hi Mal
Put simply. When we give/send Reiki we don't actually give or send anything. It is the person recieving who draws it from us.
The body does have a sort of intelligance that then utalises that energy to the best effect.

Namaste

Rob
Truth is not a property of language because language has not been able to express abstract ideas as efficiently as concrete items

mal,

/*\ Namaste :-}}

- remember, the Unconscious is the realm of the Shadow - not always a "wise" complexity

- and, some intentions can be beyond our conscious ken

- the intelligence of ULE is no more than the intelligence of the practitioner

>:-}}

- gives pause for thought, doesn't it

bagl

Reiki All Around,

All Blessings,

Firekeeper

Namaste everyone.
Many times, I have sent reiki to my son with some intention and mindfulness, he has received the reiki with the same intention and mindfulness.But the result has been something else.Later on, we have found that it has been for his good. So what does it mean?

Namaste all

So, conscious intentions don't count! Instead of subconscious, let me say higher-self. Because, the subconscious cannot be ofcourse the best, it can incorporate the shadows. But, the higher-self can be the best for everybody even though not everyone is in touch with it. Therefore, I would offer that reiki is aligned with higher-self, which has its own intelligence. I believe higher-selves for everbody is linked with universal intelligence.

Mal

In Jungian pyschology he talks about the group conciousness.
I think this concept is also the "One with everything" idea from Taoism and Zen, or at least connected to it.
So yes I to will go along with your thoughts about is all being connected, but by higherself only?
I suppose that depends on what you think your higherself is.
Higherself and lowerself are still just self and personally I don't think that you can say that we are all conected by higherself alone. The actions of one can affect all others, even if it is an act of the lowerself.

I wonder what others think the higherself is?

Namaste

Rob
Truth is not a property of language because language has not been able to express abstract ideas as efficiently as concrete items

mal,

/*\ Namaste :-}}

- did I say 'conscious' intentions do not count?

bagl

- in Samsara it is openning the "conscious mind" to the contents of the unconscious and resolving all the issues stored away there that is the path to developing "awareness" and resolving our Karma - in doing this we will develop our compassion

- as for the so-called higher self? Some would say that compassionate action (not logic and intellectual theorizing about higer selves, intelligence of the universe, etc) is the index of one's connection to some sort of 'higher self'

- from a Jungian perspective one can speak of the Collective Unconscious" - the "realm" of the Psyche that contains all the "Archetypes" that are said to be common to all humans at all times

- yet, not all the Archetypes are compassionate - hence not inclined toward some hypothetical universal highest good

>:-}}

- as for the idea that some so-called higher self has an intelligence we cannot affect or that is beyond the "conscious mind" is simply a way of eschewing our responsibility for what we do - and we cannt do that in Samsara - it is not "conscious" to shuffle off our intentins to some sort of "complex" that is supposed to act in every one's best interest (there is no such animal)

- I mean, who are you or I to define what is the highest good for others??

- we are each responsible for our own Karma which is linked to our thoughts, actions, feelings, reactions, etc (whether these are "conscious" or unconscious)

- and, there are some who will say we are never "fully conscious" until we have fully resolved our Karma

>:-}}

Reiki All Around,

All Blessings,

Firekeeper

Namaste Rob and FK,

I am sorry that I did not elaborate my ideas well that lead to some misinterpretations.

I am not saying we are all connected by "higher-self" alone. We are all connected, period. I am figuratively speaking about the expression "higher-self" because all our "selves" have to be connected if there is such thing as evolvement and resolution of karma. When we are harmonic with the highest purpose of our souls-yes, compassion is a big part of it, we are in touch with our higher-self.

Our conscious intentions do count only in that it brings karma/accountability into picture. They don't count in terms of total effect of reiki, which is supplemental to our conscious intention.

My hypothesis is that the realm beyond our conscious mind- a "higher" realm if you will, may have intelligence, but we do have the power to access it, affect it though our actions. The purity of our actions and our intentions are the channels to such a clarity.

Mal

mal,

/*\ Namaste :-}}

- you said in part: "Our conscious intentions do count only in that it brings karma/accountability into picture. They don't count in terms of total effect of reiki, which is supplemental to our conscious intention"

- I am not sure I have any idea what you are saying here unless it is that practicing Reiki does not accumulate Karma??

- that notion is, of course, entirely antithetical to Karma

- no action or intention we have is excluded from Karma

- even Bodhisattvahs accumulate Karma (though it is of a rather subtler nature than that accumulated by we rather dense humans)

bagl

Reiki All Around,

All Blessings,

Firekeeper

Otoharo!

I came across some of my experience of reiki back in 1994, which was that reiki creates a fluid condition within us, so that we can then change or shift things within ourselves, or a client allows the fluidity or restricts it.
When we are in fluid state, change, healing, whatever, is easy to bring about. Reiki does not bring anything about except to establish fluidity so that then we change ourselves.

finaltiy

reiki always works for the highest good....
gee we think we know reiki...no way..it is way ahead of us mere mortals..it is 'not' our place to Q reiki, but to channel it with intent to the highest good of all involved...
why make such a big deal out of something so PURE & simple, why keep analyzing it, just accept it..for what it is...pure LOVE.
luv Wendy xxx

Namaste, FK

I meant that our conscious intentions do not completely define the outcome of a reiki session. But the conscious intentions get us into karma.

I had not thought about reiki done the way it is supposed to could get you into more karma unless you mean that there is both debit and credit "types" of karma.

I don't mean good and bad in terms of human logic. But "good" karma is supposed to help you evolve into a bodhisatva according to eastern philosophies.

Mal

namste Wendy.

I agree with you, but people say, how do you know what is the highest good for anybody.

I would think, highest good for anybody is doing God's work here to help humanity without any ego.

Mal

Dear alamelu,
Would guess that there are issues to attend to other than those you or your son are "aware" of & perhaps Reiki is not dependant on or attracted to our expectations or goals in healing.

peace & joy,
holobon

Hi there Mal,
I agree with you also,
but when you say people say "how do YOU know what is the etc.."...I don't,the universal God does..it's that 'simple' to me.
sometimes IE. someone may be suicidal we can send Reiki to the situation, but sometimes they still go ahead & do 'the deed' that they were driven to......yes, I believe Reiki helped them also, as the U God knew it was their time to go..he has the last word in life or death..not us, we can hurry it along either way, but he has the last word..
luv Wendy xxx

Namaste Wendy

I totally agree with you. Given that notion, I am uncertain as to why we are being channels of energy during reiki when God knows the best. I am not challenging your idea, but I am just confused.

Mal

Otoharo!

Perhaps it is that God works through us, not directly. As God does not judge, everything is allowed how would God know that someone wanted change except we support ourselves, and he can join in when needed.

finality

Hi Mal
I do think that we as Humans do at times over complicate even the simplist of things. We do this by thinking to hard and analizing everything in sight LOL
If something if beyond our comprehension, then at times we say it must be from supernatuaral source.

The reality of things however is often so simple that we don't see it because it is so simple.

I have spent time overthinking this very subject LOL

The energy is all around us. We tap into it and channel it thru our bodies, the persons body who is recieving the energy then does what it needs with it.

Look at it in the way you would perhaps look at a pain killer. If we have pyshical pain we take a pain killer. The pain killer has no intelligence. We don't say to it (or perhaps some do LOL) go sort that head ache out. It is our bodies that utalise the properties of the pain killer and does what it needs to do. So it is our bodies that has that intelligance (if you can call it that)

Namaste

Rob
Truth is not a property of language because language has not been able to express abstract ideas as efficiently as concrete items