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Anyone heard of jikadin reiki [not sure if that's spelt right]? A woman is advertising attunements in our local paper. £250 for level 1.

She says she has been to Japan to study it and has photos etc. to prove direct lineage from Usui himself. She claims it is like 50 times more powerful than traditional 'western' reiki and it can cure cancer etc.

Initiation is by two attunements on the first day and 6 more on the second. She teaches that putting the hands a couple of inches off the body and placing the energy in the aura is wrong, and that you should place the hands directly on the body as this is more powerful. Also she teaches a 'pulling bad energy out' technique. Anybody do this?

A friend of mine, who is a reiki master, went to a course and she said that the first two attunements knocked her off her feet [she didn't go back for the last six].

Sounds interesting doesn't it. Anyone heard of it? And what do you think of the placing hands directly on the body argument? Personally I usually keep my hands slightly off - it helps me feel the energy flow and judge where to go etc.

Also the lineage argument - Aren't we all descended from Usui himself? We all must be attuned by someone who was attuned by someone who was attuned by someone who was attuned by Usui. Know what I mean? Maybe she thinks if there are less than 5 people in the chain between Usui and yourself then that makes it stronger. Could be.

Nelys.

nelys,

/*\ Namaste :-}}

- if any form of energy work (Reiki or whatever) could, in fact, cure cancer on a consistent basis we would have heard about it

- so, pay your money and take your chances

>:-}}

- But, I certainly wouldn't fork over roughly $400 US for an attunement to a 'tradition' I knew nothing about and that makes rather grandiose claims, I would say

Reiki All Around,

All Blessings,

Firekeeper

nelys said on

>Anyone heard of jikadin reiki

Hi Nelys

Jikiden ('Directly Taught' or 'Original Teaching' Reiki)is the Reiki method as taught by the late Chiyoko Yamaguchi who died Aug. 19th 2003, and her son Tadao Yamaguchi, who is Director of the Jikiden Reiki Kenkyu Kai (Jikiden Reiki Association).

Born in 1921, Mrs. Yamaguchi, a student of Chujiro Hayashi, had received her first attunement in 1938, in Daishoji, Northern Japan. [Mrs Yamaguchi's elder sister Katsue, and her uncle, Mr Wasaburo Sugano, had also been attuned to Reiki by Hayashi Sensei - Wasaburo in 1928 & Katsue in 1935 - but Mr Sugano had insisted that Chiyoko finished high school before receiving her first attunement]

Jikiden Reiki is presented as comprising the exact system that Chiyoko Yamaguchi was taught by Hayashi-Sensei, along with additional information apparently gleaned by Tadao Yamaguchi in interviews with some of Hayashi-Sensei's other surviving students.

While some Japanese Reiki lineages focus primarily on spiritual development, in Jikiden-Reiki the focus is strongly on healing, however, unlike western-style Reiki, apparently Jikiden does not teach formal hand positions.

In Jikiden, the symbols and their mantra-names are referred to respectively as shirushi and jumon. The way in which the symbols/mantras are used and understood is quite different to that of 'western' style Reiki.

Jikiden teaches the first two levels - Shoden and Okuden - together over a single 5-day workshop (the first three days - three hours per day - being devoted to the Shoden level and the last two, the Okuden level).

A 3-day version of the workshop involves three hours training on the first day, and six hours on each of the two other days.

The third level, referred to as 'Teacher' level or Shihan (Jikiden doesn't use the term 'Shinpiden' for the third level ) is apparently offered to students assessed to be of a suitable level of development.

The Teacher level itself is actually split into two parts - Shihan-Kaku (Assistant Teacher) and Shihan proper. Shihan training is generally only offered to suitable candidates some 6 -12 months after completion of the Shihan-Kaku grade.

Mrs Yamaguchi apparently achieved the Shihan-Kaku in Spring 1939 and full Shihan status in the Autumn of the same year - however, while it had previously been claimed that she had completed her training with Hayashi-Sensei, it is now said that she actually completed her training with her uncle, Wasaburo Sugano, who had also been trained by Hayashi-sensei.

Mrs. Yamaguchi maintained that she was not taught any formal hand positions; she said she used have a number of notes (apparently copied from Hayashi-Sensei's - it was customary for students to copy their Teachers notes), which (along with her certificates?) were later lost in a fire in Manchuria.

Jikiden Reiki, it is claimed: "is the first attempt to re-introduce "original" Reiki to Japan and the rest of the world".
Jikiden Reiki

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>....... She claims it is like 50 times more powerful than traditional 'western' reiki and it can cure cancer etc.

50 times ? - not 47.5 times? - not 53.187 times?

I just love the way people do that whole "My Reiki is stronger/better/purer/got more bells and whistles than yours" stuff!

>...She teaches that putting the hands a couple of inches off the body and placing the energy in the aura is wrong, and that you should place the hands directly on the body as this is more powerful......what do you think of the placing hands directly on the body argument?

well, Takata-sensei actually taught one should always use direct touch-contact in giving treatment (no matter whether you were level 1, 2 or Master) - only using 'hands-off' treatment where it would be inappropriate or too painful to touch the client's body.

reiki ni rei

James

Hi James,

Thanks very much for all the information. It's very useful. Certainly looks interesting.

I know exactly what you mean about the whole 'my reiki is stronger, purer, got more bells on' attitude. I hate it too. It just smacks of 'I'm better than you and you will pay me money to learn what I know'.

So to be honest, when my friend first mentioned it, I thought it sounded like just another money making scam.

And yes, Firekeeper, I thought 250 quid was a bit pricey for a level 1 attunement too.

But then when she told me how the first two attunements were so strong that they made her feel dizzy and light headed [and this is a reiki master we're talking about], I began to wonder if maybe there wasn't a bit more to it than that.

So have you tried it then? If so what did you think?

And also, I was wondering what do you think in general of all the different types of reiki - violet flame, sheikem etc etc. Are they just a different way of teaching exactly the same thing or do they, in your opinion, actually add something to the quality of the energy. And if they change the quality of the energy then can it still be classified as reiki?

What do you think, Firekeeper? You seem to be quite interested in different forms of energy work.

Nelys.

nelys,

/*\ Namaste :-}}

- my experiences with folks who have had one or another (or more) of these spin-off attunements that are supposed to be of such higher vibration tells me that unless the person has already developed the mindfulness and compassionate Intentions, that their connection to the flow of energy is really not improved compared to the time following good olde, plain' n simple Usui

- btw, several of the most 'effective' energy workers I have known were not Reiki trained (but they most surely had terrific connections to the flow of ULE)

- so, what does that say??

- as for feeling dizzy? Perhaps it is just that some people are already a bit more 'dizzy' than others

bagl

Reiki All Around,

All Blessings,

Firekeeper

Hello nelys,

You have probably found it but in case you haven't, there is a U.K. based website regarding Jikiden Reiki.

I will post it on the Resources board for you.

Slan agus beannaht leat.

Brian

A Brian, a chara,

/*\ Namaste :-}}

- Wie geht es ihnen heute, mon frere??

- Hier, alles ganz gut

>:-}}

Slan agus beannaht leat,

Reiki All Around,

All Blessings,

Firekeeper

A Peadar, a chara,

Salut mon cher ami,

Ici ca va, enfin ca peut aller

Vous avez bien vous amuse au repas d'anniversaire de la delicieuse Marianne?

A bientot, pour l'instant, mon boulot m'appele

Slan go foille agus beannacht leat,

Reiki (whiskey and wine) all around

Bagl.

Brian

A Brian, a chara,

/*\ Namaste :-}}

- Guten Tag und salve! Como se va? Sto molto bene.

- Fur geburtstagessen, bean mo chroi hatte Lachs gegessen; weiswein zu trinken; ich Lammkotelett mit rotwein zu trinken

>:-}}...

- Doe voorzichtig!

- Sláinte agus saol chugat!

Reiki All Around,

All Blessings,

Firekeeper

A Peadar, a chara,

Jeg er bra, takk. Hvordan stor de til?

Bean mo chroi regagne sa forme, la douleur commence a diminuer un peu.

Quant a moi, comme toujours, en plein forme.

Haway bonny lad, Ah'm reet glad yez had a good time. Ah divn't hod wi aal that foreign food y'knaw. Ah like me lamb aal roasted-like, wi roast tatties an yorkshire pud - Ah'll mek yez some when yez come over an a couple a bottles o' Newky Brown t'wesh it doon wi.

Well marrer, Ah've bin workin hard the day so Ah'm gan the netty then Ah'm off t' me bed.

Oiche mhaith agus codladh samh

Brian

A Brian, a chara,

/*\ Namaste :-}}

- Erev tov (my time)! Ma shelomkha? Ani beseder. Und, wie gehts mit deine Frau?

- so, NuqneH!

- QaStaH nuq??

>:-}}

- Hier, alles in ordnung.

- ahhh, laddie, nothin' will crank the olde pallet better than roasted spring lamb with garlic mashed tatties and young brussels sprouts washed down with Malamatina Retsina (unless, of course, it is Jacqui MacGregor's Dornoch haggis paired up with a tasty brewski)

>:-}}....

- bis morgan, schlaf schoen.

>:-}}

Oiche mhaith agus codladh samh

Reiki All Around,

All Blessings,

Firekeeper

A Peadar, a chara,

Epetain-zana, ani beseder, tova.

teskas tal'tai-kleon.

nuq Daq yuch Dagpol?

Bagl, bagl, bagl

Bean mo chroi has had quite a serious flare up of the fibro and attendant problems, but things are steadily improving now and she is regaining her usual sparkling form.

She thanks you for your enquiry.

Trapped a couple of haggis the other day, quite rare around these parts, but i will be using my hunting skills at the end of May - you could say I am a veritable "Coureur des bois" - just need bean mo chroi to knit me a red stocking cap!! Until then, will have to make do with my Gascon beret, made in Spain!!

Bagl.

Well, old friend, time for beddy-byes, so,

Nos da, oiche mhaith and goodnight.

Slan agus beannacht leat.

Brian

A Brian, a chara epetai-zana,

/*\ Namaste :-}}

- you must be a worthy trapper\warrior, indeed - haggises are not easily fooled - you must follow the olde maxim: bISovbejbe'DI' tImer

bagl

- as the very distant cousin of my friend Hamish the Haggis once observed when he was about to confront the invading Cooks: Heghlu'meH QaQ jajvam

- unfortunately, their cook had no pot or fire as he followed the older and more sacred maxim: reH nay'meylIjyIn Dujablu'jaj

bagl

- as to nuq Daq yuch Dagpol?

- sadly, my stores are bereft at the moment - "rot yittmey ghom Hoch", afterall

bagl, bagl, bagl

- I am glad the flare-up is tempering down a bit

- since I only do the (catch-release) angling, my greek fisherman's cap will suffice

- schalff schoen, bis morgan

- gutte nacht, mon frere

Reiki All Around,

All Blessings,

Firekeeper

A Peadar, a chara,

epetai-zana,

In my role as trapper, I must confess to discours with the captured Haggis. I usually find that the phrase choSuvchugh'oy'lIj Daghur neH has the desired effect on my hapless victim.

A propos of nothing, you may be pleased to learn that I have been victorious in my battle with the UK equivalent of City Hall - DaHjajSuvwI"e' jiH, HIHvqa"may"pequ"moH.
I am contemplating setting up a consultancy for my American cousins.

Rofl.

On the subject of Dagpol, why, Hiq DasammeH tach yl'el , dear boy!!

Rofl rofl rofl.

Bean mo chroi thanks you for your concern, so, as I retire victorious to my bed,

DaHjajaj Qaq Daghajjaj, as I believe you say on your side of the pond.

Rofl.

Live long and prosper my honourable friend,

Nos da, oiche mhaith and goodnight.

Brian

A Brian, a chara,

- Assalamu'alaikum.

/*\ Namaste :-}}

- epetai-zana

- Na'shaya!

>:-}}

- qaleghnes!!

- wie geht es ihnen? Und deine Frau? Hier, alles ganz gut.

- winning against city hall might very well be marketable around here: Celticcapricorn, International

- has a nice ring to it, no??

- bagl

- Qapla' Balth je'!

- batlh Daqawlu'taH!!

- tich tor ang tesmur!!

Reiki All Around,

All Blessings,

Firekeeper

Bhuel, tá sea go deas an teanga a chlostáil in áit ma seo. I breá liom an chraic a chlostáil.
As for previous the violet flame and seichim and golden dragon and reiki. I think it's all the same. I get confuesed with all of them but maby though I'm 'attuned' with all of the above, my vibration level is such that I don't think I can feel them as effectively as other peeps.or division them, as in this feels like that and that like this. |You get my gist?

Beannacht Reiki oraibh go léir.

jaguar,

Go raibh mile mhaith agat agus cead mile failte romhat.

Ta cupla focail Gaelige agam - de reir a cheile a thogtar na caislean!!

And yes, I catch your drift.

Slan go foille agus beannacht leat.

Brian

Det är alltid trevligt när man förstår vad Firekeeper pratar om tillsammans med Celticcapricorn !
Sanning

sanning, lector benevole

Salve! Yes, Ceter paribus, exceptio probat regulam? FK, genius loci. Yet, haud ignota loquor!

LOL

Fiat luxis!

Cheers,

RC

sanning,

God morgen. Hvordan stor de til?

Jeg ikke snakke Svensk, imidlertid, jeg snakke litte gran Norsk.

Thanks to the miracles of modern technology and the availablility of online dictionaries, it is nice to be able to attempt to communicate in different languages - makes the World a smaller and more pleasant place, I feel.

Tusen takk,

Slan agus beannacht leat.

Brian

RC,

Ave!!

Caesar adsum iam forte, Brutus ad arat.

Caesar sic in omnibus, Brutus sic inat!!!

Quod erat demonstrandum

Bagl

Vale.

Brian

Brian,

Quel undome. Mae govannen. Sut naa lle umien sina re?

Brutus? A! Sereg'wethrin et utinu en lokirim.

Caesar? Beikaer.

Tenna' ento lye omenta, Aa' menle nauva calen ar' ta hwesta e' ale'quenle!

Cheers,

RC

Celticcapricorn ,jag mår alldeles utmärkt,tackar som frågar.It would be very interesting to hear the story about your hanle name Celticcapricorn and how come you speak some "Norsk"

Love
Ingewald

Good Morning RC

Epetai-zana

Alas, being a hairy footed little Hobbit, my knowledge of the Elvish tongue is severely limited.

Nevertheless, thank you for those kind thoughts.

Glad you enjoyed the poem - it's about all I can remember from my schoolboy Latin, back in the mists of Time.

Teskas tal" tai-kleon,

Rofl.

Slan go foille agus beannacht leat.

Brian

Hello Ingewald,

Well now, the username "celticcapricorn" came from my being of Celtic origins and born on the 1st. January - hence the combination.

Some might say I'm just an old goat though.

rofl.

My limited understanding of Norsk came as a result of a caving expedition to arctic Norway many, many years ago. I loved the country so much that, when bean mo chroi and I first married, we hoped to go and live there and began learning Norwegian - alas, a pipe dream - but a nice one.

I only wish I spoke the language as well as you speak English - my compliments.

Slan go foille agus beannacht leat

Brian