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I noticed that some members have shown some intrest in entity possessions and their removal.I may be able to provide some information on this subject as I have been working in this area for some years now.

Dear Southguy,

Yes it does come up. I have also heard of hitchhikers who are earth bound ghosts who often attach to people while a person is on drugs or doing astral travel. Makes sense to me to learn about it. Any information will be appreciated by me. Most of what I;ve heard is a Catholic exorcism.

peace,
Prosperity

Dear Prosperity,
I have studied all I have been able to on this subject since I was introduced to it in about 1974 by Charles Findlay, who at the time was the Director of "The Metaphisical Research Centre" (London and Cape Town)
He was the person who experienced what is known as the "Findley Concurrance" (See 'who are the dead' and 'A Voice in the wilderness' by Helen Quatermain) I must add at this time that not a lot is availible on the subject that is accurate.(especially on the internet)

At this point I am now able to remove possessions from the host and assist the entity as well. One of the problems with R.C. exocism is that the entity will either re-attach or attach to someone else immediatly. Often it was the priest and fell out of favour as a result of the rather hit and miss approach.

Reiki can assist people with possessions and this is why I have chosen to enter this forum. BUT.........There is always a BUT....

Do not mess with this untill you know what you are doing as you can get into serious trouble. Little knowledge can be dangerous. Keep in mind that almost all mental illness and phycosis is the result of a possession. Do not open this can of worms untill you have the tools to deal with it.
Another thing to consider is permission. In many cases your intervention may not be required/allowed.

We need to take into consideration 'the healing power of disease' as well.

I must go now as guests have arrived.Post any Questions,I will answer any that I can.

Interesting topic, southguy.....
Ya know, I have to say, though, I remain skeptical on the whole "possession" issue.
Many many moons ago I was the subject of such a possession, and I was referred to a priest for it. I'm not sure if what I needed was a holy cleansing or a good kick in the ass. You said that most mental illness is the result of possession; my belief at this point is that it's the other way 'round---most posession is the result of mental illness. That was my experience.
BUT (and there's always a big BUT somewhere, yes,) I also am a firm believer in the spirit world. I frequently receive messages and visions from "the other side" when I do energy work. Some of it is so accurate that it blows my mind. So why don't I put any stock in possession? I dunno, maybe because of my own experience with it. I was actually fighting my own personal demons of my own creation.
Hmm.
I remain, however, open minded, and will be checking back for more information on this.
Thanks, and many blessings to you all.

coyotesong,

A good point! Most of the possessions that I have had to work with have been a result of an emotional imbalance of the host as well as a lack of knowlege of the entity as well. Just because the entity no longer has a physical body(ie.is dead) does not garuantee that it has aquired any futher knowledge that it did in life.

On the contrary, many of the the spirits that are summoned by mediums are very confused at their death and don't know what to do next.(Some will not even accept that they are dead) Many will go to their nearest and dearest as they don't know where else to go.When the loved one becomes out of alignment as a result of shock or extreme emotional imbalance, the entity can attach.

You introduce another interesting topic in your reply.All of the entities that I remove from hosts want nothing more than to go to "the other side".They have been in the world of the living for too long after death,and want nothing more than to go to their Maker, to be healed.

There are as many reasons that they do not pass to "the other side", as there are entities. Each has it's own reason, it is called choice.

I have yet to meet an alcoholic,drug addict,sex addict, gambler,child molester,etc. etc. that does not have a possession. Multiple personality disorders, manic depression and many other psycotic disorders are classic cases of entity possession.Unfotunatly many people are comfortable with their alter egos and use the as an excuse for bad emotinal dicipline.

Your Holy cleansing may well have come as a good kick in the ass, but the kick must have come just at the right time. Nobody can heal another. At best,we can allow them to heal themselves.

Vaya con Dios,

Guy

southguy,

/*\ Namaste :-}}

- one view is that experiencing and attachment of an unwanted 'energy entity' is not the same, certainly not in degree, as a 'possession' where the external energy entity has significant 'contol' over the individual

- removal of attachments is well known in shamanic practices (shamaic extraction) and in some cases also involved in aspects of soul retrieval (where soul fragments that are not one's own are 'removed' - these alien fragments haveing acted, in some respects, as an unwanted attachment

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- I find that Reiki is useful during the re-integrative period following an extraction or clearing

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- and, yes, not work to be undertaken by the untrained

Reiki All Around,

All Blessings,

Firekeeper

Dear Firekeeper,

You are correct as there is a difference between an attachment and a possession.
The attachment in my experience is usually "casual" and is a way for the entity to energise itself as it does not have the ability to access energy as we do.

A possession is usually defined as an entity that has some measure of influance over the host. ie. The hosts physical and finer matter bodies are out of alignment and the entity has been able to invade the space.This is almost always caused by emotional imbalance. Stress,shock etc.

I have found that the attachment, although it often does not stay around for very long,usually results in the closing down of one or many Chakras, as the body goes into defensive mode.(The entities seem to draw their energy through the Chakras but I dont know a lot about this aspect)

At this point they are easy to deal with.(Just tell it to bugger off!)Most people will be able to "feel" the presence with a little practice.

If you use dowsing as a diagnostic tool it is easy to keep yourself "unattached". Sneezing often is enough to shock the attachment off.

Guy

southguy,

/*\ Namaste :-}}

- in my neck of the woods, dowsing is a traditional folk practice for locating underground water flows - to assist with tapping wells

- I would be curious as to the entity detection practice you refer to as dowsing

- I know several energy techniques helpful in detecting and sorting out entities (thought-forms)

- and, in my own experience, any entity worth its salt will not leave simply by telling it to "beat it!"

>:-}}

Reiki All Around,

All Blessings,

Firekeeper

i have a friend who has an entity that is latched onto her head after suffering from a fall and defending her sister from a drug entity. i have performed reiki on her and i have detected something like a nail or claw that is stuck in the back of her head. besides myself, several other shamans and healers have apptempted to remove it without success. any help you could give me would be greatly appreciated. namaste

Dear firekeeper,
Dowsing can be used for a lot more than finding water.It is a very important diagnostic tool used by many doctors as well as healers all over the world.It is also call radisthesia or divining, and is an invaluable tool for those who are not claivoyant ( )
Guy

Guy,

/*\ Namaste :-}}

- 'divining' takes many forms and has several definitions in various parts of the world including practices to foretell the future

- here, dowsing rods are used for water location - I have never heard of a dowsing rod used on people

- for myself, a careful scan with the hands may be quite revealing (since divination involves revealing 'hidden' knowledge or information such scans could be called divining)

- now, if one equates the hands to a dowsing rod, then to some extent I would agree that one can say locating a 'trouble spot' in the body by scaning the body is dowsing of a sort

Reiki All Around,

All Blessings,

Firekeeper

I have worked on clearing negative energy from a home by chanting prayers from the American Book of the Dead. I was assisting someone who chose that. We used sage while praying. Didn't notice anything but a frightened cat under the bed and the person living there seemed a bit mentally off and paranoid. The other person who I was assisting then wanted to give the person's mom a Reiki attunement right there after the clearing. It seemed a bit hokey to me, I'm sorry.
peace,
Prosperity

prosperity,

/*\ Namaste :-}}

- the reliability of those who claim the presence of significant negative energies is always key

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- but, smudging one's spaces and auric field with sage can never hurt

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- as for the ABotD?? There are at least four different authors all with a book of that title - so which one was this person using?

- not having read any of them I cannot comment on them

Reiki All Around,

All Blessings,

Firekeeper

Dear faithinfire,
I may well be able to assist your friend but I cannot help you do anything. To treat someone I need to make some form of contact with that person or at least know who they are.

One thing that does concern me though, is that the purpose of joining this group was not to solicit work, but to offer my knowlege to those who want to find out more about the subject.

I am sure that some members would not be happy if services were offered on this site. Like many reiki practitioners, I do charge for my time so it may be considered inappropriate to contact you.

southguy

Hi Southguy,

I have been reading this thread with interest.

One thing that puzzles me slightly is how you differentiate between genuine mental illness and entity possession? Are there certain characteristics in each case of entity possession ? Interesting too that in biblical times those suffering from mental illness were often cast out from society because they were considered to be possessed. But surely not all cases of mental illness can be attributed to possession can they? Also once an entity is removed how do you go about protecting both yourself and the host so that it doesn't re-attach itself?

Gentle Blessings
Helen

Helen,

Hi,

Mental illness is still not nearly as well understood as some would have us believe. Thus, the companies that market tranquillizers of all strengths (from Valium to Thorazine) and a plethora of anti-depressants make so much money. We have some notion how to 'manage' psychiatrically attributed behavior and thought but we really don't have much of handle on how to predict or prevent its occurrance. Certainly more biochemical correlates of psychiatric symptons are discovered but any of these that are actually "causes" are few. A correlate is not, a priori, a cause.

As for attachments? One can easily do a scan of someone suffering schizophrenia or manic- depressive disorder and not find any "attachments". Conversely, one may find attachements on folks with relatively milder issues (and not necessarily even psychiatric problems). Sociopaths are a great place to look for attached thought-forms. Eating disorders may also be one good group to try and find attachments. Some mecdical illnesses as well though not being the 'cause' of the illness.

Keep in mind, as well, that our own thoughts, especially negative ones, can generate potent thought forms that hang onto us rather than go elsewhere. Thus an unwanted thought-form may be of our own creation but a second party doing a scan may not be able to sort that out. In some cases, shamanic work as to soul fragments might be able to 'see' that the fragmentation is self generated.

In general, regular practices that help keep the auric fields clear and the energy balanced will do wonders. And self-Reiki alone may, at times, not be enough.

Cheers,

RC

Cheers,

RC

Dear Rainbow,
In almost many cultures we have treated the mentally disturbed in terrible ways from locking them up in asylums,executing and more recently numbing thier minds with drugs.

Interestingly you mentioned biblical times as at that point there was a ray of hope for the possessed, as Jesus himself used the exocism of "demons". These were seen to be miracles by those that could not understand what he had done. See Luke8:26-39.

To understand what happens to the entity you need to know what it is.An entity is the soul(ghost) of a person who has died and has failed to go to the other side (heaven, to God,call it what you will)It needs to be treated with the same love and respect as you would a living person. If they are just chased off by the host they will go to someone else as they need an energy scource. I am able to assist the souls to pass to the other side in almost all cases. Some however will resist and take a few attempts for reasons that I will go into later.

With regard to protecting oneself it is simple, but certainly not easy.Remain emotionly stable at all times. Yes, the good old seven deadly sins again; Anger,Lust,Sloth,Gluttony,Fear/Jealousy,Hate and Pride.If you remain aligned at all times you will not be affected.Alcohol and drugs like cannabis, are like magnets for entities that had addiction problems in their lives.I have found this to be the cause of all addictions that I have come across.The entity (soul) can only be healed by passing to the other side.

I hope this answers your question.

I do not write this to try and convince anybody. If any readers are sceptical, that is their prerogative but please resist the urge to 'crucify' me because of your prejudice as others may want to learn somthing new.
southguy

R.C.
Please enlighten me as to what a thought form is as I have not come across that term before.

You are absolutly correct about the sociopaths. It is so often heard that after a crime has been commited the perpetrater says " I don't know what possessed me" This however should not be seen as an excuse for unacceptable behavior. As you mention, eating disorders can in many instances be attributed to possessions as well.

I do find that all schizophrenic and manic depressives that I have dealt with have been "possessed". Possibly your scanning may yield different results, as you use a different technique.

southguy

Dear southguy,

I'm reading this conversation again and again and I can not believe I found it.

I’m currently treating a 12 year old boy with a strange story.

In the last 6 months the boy is having unexplained headaches. All medical tests failed to find any reason.

I was told that the boy lost his grandmother in an accident two months before he was born and a medium told the father that this might be the reason for the headaches. He also said that the boy is driven by fear and by lack of confidence and that his heart chakra is “missing”.

I started treating him about three weeks ago, with guided meditations and Karuna Reiki energies. During the treatments (Three so far) the boy always sneezes!

I do feel I miss a point in the treatments and I now feel I found an answer...

What are your thoughts about this?

Love, Light and Joy,
Rudy.

southguy,

Hi,

Read "Thought Forms" by Annie Besant. She discusses these far better than ever I might. Or, C.W. Leadbeater had some thoughts on the matter.

However, here is a brief example discussion I have copied from a website.

To quote: "Nonphysical entities which exist in either the mental or astral plane. Each entity is created from the thought. Every thought is said to generate vibrations in the aura's mental body, which assume a floating form and colors depending on the nature and intensity of the thought. These thought-forms are usually seen by clairvoyants; and may be intuitively sensed by others.

Theosophists and clairvoyants Annie Besant and C. W. Leadbeater placed thought-forms in three classifications: (1) the image of the thinker (see Bilocation); (2) an image of a material object associated with the thought; and (3) an independent image expressing the inherent qualities of the thought. Thoughts which are of a low nature, such as anger, hate, lust, greed, and so on, create thought-forms which are dense in color and form. Thought of a more spiritual nature tend to generate forms possessing a greater purity, clarity, and refinement.

Thought-forms can be directed toward anyone, but to be effective they must latch onto a similar vibration in the other person’s aura. If they are unable to do so, they can boomerang back on the sender. Thus, working according to the occult theory, one who directs evil toward another runs the risk of having it return.

The strength and clarity of the original thought determines the duration, strength and the distance of travel of its developed thought-form. It is said that thought-forms can have the capability to assume their own energy and appear to be intelligent and independent. Equally strong thought-forms can disperse them, or they may disintegrate when their purpose has been accomplished. Some may stay in existence for years, while others can become uncontrollable and turn on their senders."

Cheers,

RC

jaguar,

Hi,

So, to whom are you referring here?

There are over 6000 members of the cafe and some certainly have more book knowledge than experience knowledge. And some have more practical experience. Some have a good deal of both and some have not much of either. But most, I would say , are here to learn and share. And, sometimes this involves listening to a bit of whining or complaining or observations that may be a bit skewed.

But name calling really is not in the tradition around here.

Cheers,

RC

R.C.
After asking the question of you, I looked up 'Thought Forms' and came across the definition that you quoted, amongst others.This is not what I refer to as an 'entity'
Thank you for your trouble.

Southguy

Rudy,
I have sent you an email. Please let me know if you got it.
southguy

Jaguar,
I do not understand your comments, who they are aimed at, nor their purpose in this discussion. Perhaps you could be more specific.

southguy

southguy,

Hi,

Perhaps you could share a description or definition of entity as you apply the term?

Cheers,

RC