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The July 26, 2006 issue of Newsday (NY)spoke of a new but unproven theory that says heat can be used to treat tumors, specifically speaking of testicular cancer being heat sensitive, due to the fact that the body temp of testicals is a few degrees cooler than the rest of the body, making them more susceptible to heat. The Newsday article was referencing an article in today's Journal of the American Medical Association.

The research came out of Johns Hopkins--Donald Coffey, Robert Getzenberg and Dr. Theodore DeWeese. Reference was made to studies that successfully used heat to treat other tumors, including cervical cancer. They say heat therapy is used in a handful of cancer centers around the country, and scientists are investigating the best way to selectively deliver heat to cancer cells. Johns Hopkins is one of the centers that are testing potential methods in animals.

Wouldn't it be great if we could find a way to get Reiki included in with this heat testing--after all, Reiki is heat energy which targets the source of the illness--exactly what they are looking for. Any thoughts on this?

Blessings,
Starlight

starlight,

/*\ Namaste :-}}

- heat is one way people perceive that energy is moving when doing Reiki

- ULE has many more characterisitic than heat so the absence of heat does not mean that energy is not moving

>:-}}

- did the article say what technology was being used to apply heat in such a focal fashion?

Reiki All Around,

All Blessings,

Firekeeper

Some thoughts follow, but I didn't see the article you mentioned, so I'm not sure of what else the report might have said.

Current laser treatment of some cancers uses dye that cancerous tissue absorbs better than "normal" tissue -- so the cancerous tissue becomes darker than the normal tissue and thus better absorbs the laser light, therefore becoming hotter. The idea is to give the cancerous tissue more energy than it can handle, while trying to avoid doing the same sort of thing to normal tissue. So the general idea of using heat to destroy cancer isn't really novel.

I agree with FK that reiki isn't just heat. (In my experience, some other energies that people can channel are more strongly associated w/ sheer heat than is reiki.)

I remember that previously on this board, someone asserted that reiki shouldn't be sent directly to a tumor. But the reasoning behind the assertion wasn't given, so it's hard to evaluate.

BTW, cancer is congested energy. Pulling energy out from the cancer, rather than putting more into it, can also be useful.

Bruce

starlight said on

>The July 26, 2006 issue of Newsday (NY)spoke of a new but unproven theory that says heat can be used to treat tumors, specifically speaking of testicular cancer being heat sensitive, due to the fact that the body temp of testicals is a few degrees cooler than the rest of the body, making them more susceptible to heat. The Newsday article was referencing an article in today's Journal of the American Medical Association.
>
>The research came out of Johns Hopkins--Donald Coffey, Robert Getzenberg and Dr. Theodore DeWeese. Reference was made to studies that successfully used heat to treat other tumors, including cervical cancer. They say heat therapy is used in a handful of cancer centers around the country, and scientists are investigating the best way to selectively deliver heat to cancer cells. Johns Hopkins is one of the centers that are testing potential methods in animals.
>
>Wouldn't it be great if we could find a way to get Reiki included in with this heat testing--after all, Reiki is heat energy which targets the source of the illness--exactly what they are looking for. Any thoughts on this?
>
>Blessings,
>Starlight

Hi Firekeeper,

The article in Newsday didn't state much about the ongoing research. I didn't look up the Journal article that was specifically talking about the research. I'll try to find out more information.

Namaste,
Starlight

Hi Bruce,
Yuo said:
"I remember that previously on this board, someone asserted that reiki shouldn't be sent directly to a tumor. But the reasoning behind the assertion wasn't given, so it's hard to evaluate.

BTW, cancer is congested energy. Pulling energy out from the cancer, rather than putting more into it, can also be useful."

Interesting.
Is the answer to the first part not answered by the second? I have not worked on cancer - can you tell us more about the 'congested energy' and any background you have? does this congested energy apply to other conditions?

Love
Chris

Bruce,

/*\ Namaste :-}}

- yes, there are extraction-type techniques for de-energizing various conditions - the development of fibroids can be inhibited in some instances by de-energizing them and it is possible the same might add to the treatment of some cancers

- but this is not at all the same as actually removing a tumor (which must be done via medical surgery where possible - not all tumor being operable)

- some shamanic extraction work deals with this as well as attempting to completely remove unwanted energy

- energy removal can work with headaches, for example

- however, energy removal must be done very mindfully so that one does not take on any of the nasty energy oneself

Reiki All Around,

All Blessings,

Firekeeper

Hi, Chris,
I'd said,

I remember that previously on this board, someone asserted that reiki shouldn't be sent directly to a tumor. But the reasoning behind the assertion wasn't given, so it's hard to evaluate.

BTW, cancer is congested energy. Pulling energy out from the cancer, rather than putting more into it, can also be useful.

You replied,

">Interesting.
>Is the answer to the first part not answered by the second? "

The previous poster didn't explain his reasoning, so I don't know whether that's what he had in mind. (I find, though, that reiki can be used to "push" out congested energy from between the cells of a tumor.)

And you said,
"I have not worked on cancer - can you tell us more about the 'congested energy' and any background you have?"

I'll try. When I hold my hand near the site of a malignant tumor, it's very intense, like hundreds of pinpricks on the palm of my hand. Like too much energy accumulates at that site. My background of working on cancer -- a few people who accepted my offer. The one on whom I worked longest was my father, who died 26 months after his diagnosis of pancreatic cancer was confirmed. (His oncologist expected he'd be dead within 6 months, but Dad is stubborn.)

When treating someone who has a malignant solid tumor, I work on generally strengthening that person's body, boosting his immune system, alleviating side effects of chemo, and clearing congested energy from the site of the tumor. That last part can be done by sending in more energy to get his energy flowing through that area again, rather than stagnating there; sending in more energy but not re-establishing the flow of the "patient's" own energy through the affected site doesn't help, and I think it probably would make things worse. (In saying that, I'm assuming that we're not talking about sending in levels of energy that are so high that they'd kill the cancer, which is the subject of the article that triggered this thread.)

Clearing congested energy can also be done by pulling it out from the patient. One way of doint it is to use the energy around my hand to grab some of the congested energy, and pull it out away from the patient's body, and send it into a candle flame or down into the ground for processing. Another way of doing it is to place one hand on the site of the tumor and pull congested energy from the tumor (I think of pulling from the spaces between the cells), in through my hand, through my own body, and send it out through my other hand into a candle flame or the ground -- but that requires more work on clearing my own body afterward, to avoid being stuck w/ "residue." But it seemed to work well whenever I could do it in person w/ my father.

BTW, in his book _Power Healing_, Zhi Gang Sha describes cancer as too much vibration of the cells, caused by congestion of energy between the cells. (But he also talks in terms of a balance between energy that is between the cells and matter that is within the cells -- which I find rather dubious.)

You also said,
"> does this congested energy apply to other conditions?"

Asthma. Also, some (non-malignant) skin bumps. There's probably also other stuff that arises from congestion of energy. Maybe fibroid tumors?

Bruce

Hello, FK,

Thanks for your message, and I agree.

Bruce

firekeeper said on

>Bruce,
>
>/*\ Namaste :-}}
>
>- yes, there are extraction-type techniques for de-energizing various conditions - the development of fibroids can be inhibited in some instances by de-energizing them and it is possible the same might add to the treatment of some cancers
>
>- but this is not at all the same as actually removing a tumor (which must be done via medical surgery where possible - not all tumor being operable)
>
>- some shamanic extraction work deals with this as well as attempting to completely remove unwanted energy
>
>- energy removal can work with headaches, for example
>
>- however, energy removal must be done very mindfully so that one does not take on any of the nasty energy oneself
>
>Reiki All Around,
>
>All Blessings,
>
>Firekeeper

Thanks Bruce,
I like the descriptions used - and they lend themselves to good visualisation. I do use extracting congested energy(what I have called dark energy 'till now 'cos thats how I see it) - mostly sending it to earth (after asking for permission of course). It is very powerful and so is the method of running it through my body to earth - but I think this can be dangerous if not cleared properly - what clearing/ cleansing process do you use afterwards?
Do you think that MS is a form of congested energy?

Love

Chris

Yikes.....you guys are SCARING me!
Like finality says in the 'Symbols and feelings' thread---"Reiki is very simple".
That's what I always thought. Ya know, run the energy and hold the intention for the best and highest good of the receiver. La. Bob's yer uncle.
But I hafta admit, some of these posts get pretty involved. This one, as well as some of the 'Entity posession' posts---I'm a pretty sharp cookie but I have to read them two or three times and I STILL have no idea what's going on.
I'm a relative newcomer to all of this, and I know I have much to learn....but what about the body's innate ability to use the energy how it is needed? The energy, sent with love and healing intentions, boosts the recipient's ability to heal itself.
I've heard the tumor question before---wouldn't running energy into it strengthen the cancer? But I believe Reiki energy supports the body's natural ability to heal, and since cancer is the disease, Reiki would not strengthen THAT.
Reiki gives the recipient the entrainment to a stronger healing energy. Pure and simple, yes? Is it possible to over-think this?
Many thanks to my wise Cafe teachers, from your humble and curious student,
Hanhepi Wi Winyan

Hi, coyotesong,
You said,
">Yikes.....you guys are SCARING me! "

1 John 4:18.

You also said,
">Like finality says in the 'Symbols and feelings' thread---"Reiki is very simple"."

The "pulling" sorts of practices mentioned
in this thread aren't reiki exercises,
so far as I know. (I'm guilty of bringing
them into the discussion, in response to
the question about reiki and heat and
cancer; I was just noting another approach
to treatment.)

But note that the use of the symbols is
rather widespread in Western schools of
reiki, even though they introduce a
level of complexity that doesn't have
to be there. Ditto for the teaching of
standardized hand positions. Etc., etc.

Consider, too, that what's relatively
straightforward for a practitioner to do
might seem more complex when verbal
descriptions are given (like on
this message board). Pulling energy
out from my father's cancer didn't
involve sitting down and thinking
first I'll do this, then I'll do that,
then I'll do the other thing, and then
when all that's done, I'll finish up with
this additional thing. Things came to
me as I went along, and they worked well.
Coming up w/ the verbal description isn't
easy for me, but I did it in response to
Cactuschris' question.

And you also said,
"> I'm a relative newcomer to all of this, and I know I have much to learn....but what about the body's innate ability to use the energy how it is needed?"

That's fine. Now, if offering energy to the
recipient's body, in conjunction w/
more specific intentions, is sometimes more
effective than just offering energy to
the recipient's body by itself, then what?
That's where my experience is, and it might
differ from others' experiences. The
difference shouldn't push us into calling
each other heretics.

And you said further,
"> I've heard the tumor question before---wouldn't running energy into it strengthen the cancer? But I believe Reiki energy supports the body's natural ability to heal, and since cancer is the disease, Reiki would not strengthen THAT. "

Sounds like hand-waving to me, if
one tries to reconcile it w/
some people's insistence that reiki
is universal life energy. ULE
strengthens life, EXCEPT for
the life of cancer cells? Huh, what??

You further said,
">Reiki gives the recipient the entrainment to a stronger healing energy. Pure and simple, yes? Is it possible to over-think this?"

Certainly. You're over-thinking if
your cogitating doesn't match what's
going on in your results. OTOH, if
your practice becomes more effective,
then it's not over-thinking. Simple, yes?

Take care.

Bruce

Hi, Chris,

Re. extracting congested energy, you said,
"It is very powerful and so is the method of running it through my body to earth - but I think this can be dangerous if not cleared properly - what clearing/ cleansing process do you use afterwards?"

First, I fill up meridians and the space
immediately around me before doing energy
work generally, and especially if I'll
be doing any "pulling." Then after the
pulling, and after disconnecting from the
"patient," I continue sending some energy
through to the ground or a candle flame,
to "flush out" any residue that might've
been picked up. I might also do some
qigong exercise like guan qi fa, which
runs energy from above the head, down
through meridians, into the ground.
If more cleansing is still needed, I
might use a mix of salt and baking powder
while showering.

How about you? What do you do?

>Do you think that MS is a form of congested energy?

I don't know, and haven't been around
many people who have MS, but at this
time I'm doubtful. It doesn't seem
to me as if congested energy would
cause degradation of myelin. The idea
that MS results from autoimmune activity
"feels" more right to me. What do
you think?

Bruce

Hi Bruce,
Thanks for the reply. In terms of earthing the congested energy (or sending to a candle flame which I like the idea of) I try to do a cleansing sweep of white light followed by a recharge of healing energy. This seems ok but at least once I ended up with a sprained wrist the next day so presumably it was not done well enough. I also feel that we should not just use the earth as a dumping ground for congested energy - hence the reason why I liked the candle flame. Still it has to go somewhere...

I treat a quadriplegic with MS - and am making some good headway, but what I see is from the sacral chakra downwards as dark, no energy. Bit by bit I have been removing it by grabbing it and sending it to earth and then filling the space created with reiki. Like cancer I am relying on the fact that the body knows how to make good myalin sheaths, and I try to 'find what works and expand it rather than focus on the bits that don't work. I'm always up for new ideas to try if they might help though.

Love

Chris

Otoharo!

Bruce, and others on this thread, I am wondering about this idea of what to do with the energy. In my experience, reiki transmutes the energy. There is nothing to pull one way or another, it just vanishes. Of course this may take time which means staying at one spot until the transmuting is complete. At least that is how we do it here.

finality

Hello, Finality,

Reiki transmutes other energy? Interesting idea. Transmutes it into what?

Bruce

finality said on

>Otoharo!
>
>Bruce, and others on this thread, I am wondering about this idea of what to do with the energy. In my experience, reiki transmutes the energy. There is nothing to pull one way or another, it just vanishes. Of course this may take time which means staying at one spot until the transmuting is complete. At least that is how we do it here.
>
>finality

Otoharo!

There are three words, transform, transmute, transcend. transform changes one thing into another thing. Transmute ceases the thing. Transcend raises to a level that does not include the thing. As I understand these terms. When you transmute something, it becomes nothing.

finality

Hi, Finality,

"Transform" and "transmute" mean the same thing. See references to transmutation of elements in alchemical traditions.

But I'm still curious about your idea that reiki causes other energy to cease. If I understand correctly, it seems to be a violation of the principle of conservation of energy. Such violation just doesn't happen routinely.

Take care.

Bruce

finality said on

>Otoharo!
>
>There are three words, transform, transmute, transcend. transform changes one thing into another thing. Transmute ceases the thing. Transcend raises to a level that does not include the thing. As I understand these terms. When you transmute something, it becomes nothing.
>
>finality

Hello All,
Thanks Bruce for all the advice. I've used the candle flame for instance and it works well. I am not sure where the energy goes, but I can see it, and removing it can be effective - so much of this is about visualisation and intent - just as we intend for the reiki energy to flow whan starting a reiki session sets it going. The assumption that reiki will not strengthen a cancer is a similar argument that says it does not strengthen an infection - it is the intent that guides and focusses the healing. Yes - our bodies do know what needs doing, but intent helps.
I also think that sometimes the quality of the reiki energy is different - it has a different feel when applied with loving intent than when 'mechanically' activated. In fact for me it is the application of love and an open heart that makes giving reiki such a wonderful feeling (like giving presents at Christmas is so much better than receiving them). This whole reiki thing has been such an important part in a truely spiritual journey, and it is (in my opinion only) strengthed by being an essential part of a wider spiritual experience.

Love
Chris