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Do Reiki II and Reiki III attunements and the symbols give the student a higher frequency of energy than Reiki I?

Do other energy healing modalities have higher frequencies of energy than Reiki?

I appreciate any input.

resplen

Dear Resplen,

My understanding is that higher levels in Reiki makes us a clearer and more open channel...not changing the nature of the energy itself. I suspect also, that Reiki may not respond to the same laws of electromagnetic energy, as it very well be something very different in nature.

I've heard other forms of Reiki, such as Karuna, claim to be higher frequency, but I'm kind of dubious of that.

Incidently, a while back, Bruce posted something on the claims of higher frequency being automatically assumed to be better. It was a very thought provoking point of view.

Blessings,
Roxy

Otoharo!

Respen, Reiki I is all of reiki. Reiki II gives the symbol for emotions but this is not a higher frequency. Reiki III has to do with being a professional reiki practitioner which is unnecessary for most people. there is no higher frequescy than reiki I. There is no energy in the Universe higher than reiki I. People try to lure you by promising otherwise but it is you who makes for your experiences of higher frequescy.

What you are after is no blockages in you. As you release your blockages, one by one, you are able to feel more energy which seems like a raise in frequency but isn't.

finality

resplen,

/*\ Namaste :-}}

- you list yourself as a Teacher, so what was your experience?

>:-}}

- for myself? the issue is not simply what 'frequency' the practitioner accesses (the so-called higher frequencies not a priori being 'better' - witness how high frequency sound shatters crystal)

>:-}}

- a Key is the degree to which the Recipient is able to utilize the energy and the degree to which the Recipient is able to access the full range of qualities of the energy

>:-}}

- just as all Practitioners are not 'equally' connected to the flow of energy so too does this apply to Recipients

>:-}}

- for myself?? Training and being attuned to the three levels of Reiki allowed me to a develop my connections to a broader range of the qualities of ULE

- however, if I were to address your question directly?? I would have to say that if any of my practices "felt" higher in frequency than others at any given moment, I would have to point to certain Kundalini pranyamas I was taught (and practice) as "feeling" to be higher in frequency, so to speak, than other energy practices

- but, afterall, it is all a matter of perception (Illusion), isn't it??

bagl

- hope this helps

Reiki All Around,

All Blessings,

Firekeeper

Thanks for the reference, Roxy. Some discussion of which frequencies are useful for healing which tissues is cited in my response to the "frequency specific microcurrent" thread on the Resources board of this forum.

Here's another example I use, by analogy. Visible light is medium-frequency electromagnetic energy. Gamma radiation is high-frequency electromagnetic energy. Gamma radiation is deadly. Visible light isn't. Believing that higher frequency = better, would lead one to irradiate himself with gamma rays -- which would be an incredibly stupid thing to do.

Bruce

Otoharo!

Bruce, one day someone asked Xaris why we couldn't just step up into forth dimension and be done with all this. She said it would kill us. We can only adjust bit by bit. Which is probably saying what you are saying.

finality

Hello all, namaste,

I believe there is a theory that different diseases resonate at different frequencies. I also believe that certain Masters are of the opinion that Reiki is able to match the frequency of different diseases` output, as it were.

Whether this is true or not, I cannot, from my own experience, comment. I believe that these theories are currently being investigated at a London teaching hospital.

As regards to Reiki, I believe that once attuned to Reiki 1, you have the kernal of Reiki to use, to practise, to grow. The attunement is the seed, the growth is up to you.

For Reiki 11 and 111, the Reiki is still Reiki, but you have the opportunity to expand your horizons of useage, to become closer to understanding Reiki, (though I dont suppose any of us will ever stop learning, and that is the beauty of it) and to learn to share what you have learned, along with your experiences, with others, by attuning students.

Just my observations on this thread,
love and light,
philanty

Philanty,

/*\ Namaste :-}}

- long time, no see!!

- so glad you dropped in

>:-}}

- to say that 'Reiki can match' the frequencies of various diseases sounds very much like "Reiki knows what to do without us" - a position for which I find no evidence in my experience

>:-}}

- if it were true that Reiki can match disease frequencies (which by itself may mean nothing at all, healing-wise since, for example, it may take a dis-similar frequence to affect cancer in a desireable manner), how then does Reiki so seldom seem to directly affect cancer or other serious diseases?

- I would offer that in cases where a person experiences a remission from cancer or leukemia, etc that it was that person's ability to use the energy for their own well-being that was Key

- sadly, in the vast majority of cases of Reiki applied to diseases, major aches, pains etc (witness all the reports here over the years) it seems recipients are rather less than well tuned into the necessary frequencies (if in fact such 'frequencies' are of any relevance)

- so, I suppose this is why I prefer to work on mindfulness about the enegry rather than meditating on symbols or somesuch - or expecting Reiki to act on its own

>:-}}

Reiki All Around,

All Blessings,

Firekeeper

FK said:

"I would offer that in cases where a person experiences a remission from cancer or leukemia, etc that it was that person's ability to use the energy for their own well-being that was Key"

I would exactly agree with this, said pretty much the same thing just this morning with a group that was pondering "how do we know the Reiki cured xyz?"

I do have a question, Firekeeper -- could you explain your paragraph starting with "sadly"? You seem to be saying that Reiki is relatively ineffective, but I could be missing something. You also say that Reiki seldom seems to directly affect cancer or other serious diseases -- are there studies
showing that? I was only aware of a handful of double-bind studies, mostly still in progress. With anecdotal evidence, we can't really tell -- some publications are full of anecdotes of miraculous cures, and it could also be that this Cafe reports a disproportionate share of non-cures due to people bringing their "problem cases" to this forum for advice and airing.

The way I get around the inconclusiveness right now, is to say that healing means learning to live more joyfully in each moment, regardless of physical afflictions. However, if there is not some significant benefit to doing Reiki for oneself or another, then we're all better off just concentrating on our day jobs.

You know, now that I look at what I wrote, it does occur to me that outcomes seem to improve when I find the appropriate level of verbal or silent coaching for the client, for their learning of their self-healing ability. And that comes from mindfulness of what is happening in the moment, your last point.

This goes way beyond the question of frequencies, so if I pursue the line of thought further I'll start a separate thread.

Blessings,
Aronaya

P.S. I speculate that meditating on symbols can be seen as practice to strengthen mindfulness. The symbols are the pointing finger, not the moon itself.

Aronaya,

/*\ Namaste :-}}

- perhaps what I said, without wishing to use a sledge hammer, was that more often than not people are ineffective in their use of the energy

- so don't blame the energy

- it does not know where to go, afterall

>:-}}

- and, folks with cancer want a cure - not simply more rational living with their painful and terminal disease

- though I do not dismiss the latter as a legitimate goal in healing

>:-}}

Reiki All Around,

All Blessings,

Firekeeper

Hiya Firekeeper, namaste ....

I agree with you actually, mindfulness is all. However, following my posting, I located one of the people who used to believe that the frequency theory was King .... I emailed him and asked for details, saying that I remembered his theory.

His reply was along the lines of "sorry, cannot give any details of frequencies, until after publication of my book ... sure you will understand." Actually no, I don`t, but there again, that tells me a lot! So much for sharing!!

Personally I have great faith in Reiki, and I do believe that although it may not "cure" cancer and such (cure as opposed to "heal") it does make the patient`s experience of life a whole different ball game. And who knows, on some occasions, it may cure as well as heal. Difficult to prove, I know, but sure as hell something works sometimes!

My elderly dog, nearly fourteen, had a large bleeding mass on her back - was due to be operated on this week. A friend and I gave her lots of Reiki - come the day of the op, suddenly there is virtually nothing there. I take her anyway, since she has the appointment, and show them what is left. They were extremely surprised, agreed that there was no way she needed the op. at the moment anyway, put her on anti-inflammatories to be safe, and sent me home with her. True story from this very week. Maybe it would have happened without the Reiki, I do know that. But maybe it wouldn`t.

Love and light,
philanty.

Further to my previous posting, I have now received another email about "frequencies":

I quote:

"Yes, you are correct, we are doing various research studies with five different universities in two countries. We have developed far too much info about frequencies to explain in an email."

He also explained that everyone had signed confidentiality agreements.
So - make of it what you will. We shall see in time no doubt, if there is anything in the research.

philanty

Sounds good, Firekeeper, appreciate it, and I don't mind the sledgehammer.

I've found with my practice that, whenever I am carrying anxiety about fixing the client's issue, that's when things become ineffective. Ambition to be the "fixer" inevitably derails the mindfulness.

I also notice a similar dynamic for the receiver of Reiki. When they are looking for lightning bolts of curing or fixing, that keeps them from relaxing into the experience and getting the most out of it.

Blessings,
Aronaya

Philanty,

/*\ Namaste :-}}

- even though your 'source' is being evasive and protective of his intellectual rights, can you share his name??

>:-}}

- perhaps I have heard of him

>:-}}

Reiki All Around,

All Blessings,

Firekeeper

Firekeeper, namaste,

Have emailed you the info.

Love and light,
philanty

Philanty,

Your story about your dog is interesting. A similar thing happened to my old lad. He took the skin completely off one of his pads, down to the raw flesh underneath. I took him to the Vet who bandaged him up with a pressure bandage and instructed me to take him back in a week for a dressing change - she anticipated a slow healing.
During the intervening week I gave him plenty of reiki on the injured pad and, when I took him back a week later, to the Vet's (and my) amazement, the pad had completely healed except for a tiny pinprick in the centre - it did not even require a bandage.
Since then, I have never doubted reiki.

Beannacht leat.

philanty said on

>Hiya Firekeeper, namaste ....
>
>I agree with you actually, mindfulness is all. However, following my posting, I located one of the people who used to believe that the frequency theory was King .... I emailed him and asked for details, saying that I remembered his theory.
>
>His reply was along the lines of "sorry, cannot give any details of frequencies, until after publication of my book ... sure you will understand." Actually no, I don`t, but there again, that tells me a lot! So much for sharing!!
>
>Personally I have great faith in Reiki, and I do believe that although it may not "cure" cancer and such (cure as opposed to "heal") it does make the patient`s experience of life a whole different ball game. And who knows, on some occasions, it may cure as well as heal. Difficult to prove, I know, but sure as hell something works sometimes!
>
>My elderly dog, nearly fourteen, had a large bleeding mass on her back - was due to be operated on this week. A friend and I gave her lots of Reiki - come the day of the op, suddenly there is virtually nothing there. I take her anyway, since she has the appointment, and show them what is left. They were extremely surprised, agreed that there was no way she needed the op. at the moment anyway, put her on anti-inflammatories to be safe, and sent me home with her. True story from this very week. Maybe it would have happened without the Reiki, I do know that. But maybe it wouldn`t.
>
>Love and light,
>philanty.

Hi, I am so pleased to learn about your boy - also there is no way with animals that people can say "oh its just a placebo effect" which sometimes comes with humans.

Hope his paw continues to heal and that he lives a long and healthy life.

love and light
philanty

philanty,

/*\ Namaste :-}}

- I did not receive your E-mail as yet

- did you receive the E-mail I sent you via The Cafe??

- if not, we may have a problem with that feature that needs looking at

Reiki All Around,

All Blessings,

Firekeeper

Hi Firekeeper, namaste,

I did send you an email, and no I did not receive yours, so maybe there is a hitch in the system?

Love and light
philanty

philanty,

/*\ Namaste :-}}

- yes, something glitchy going on at least with my interface with the system

- should be resolved soon

Reiki All Around,

All Blessings,

Firekeeper

Philanty,

/*\ Namaste :-}}

- I think the problem has been taken care of

>:-}}

Reiki All Around,

All Blessings,

Firekeeper

Firekeeper, namaste ....

We shall see, I have tried to send an email to you now, via the Cafe. Have also sent to the old email address I had for you, but not sure if you have changed address. I have the one listed for the Cafe, which should work automatically, and another which I have sent to you via the Cafe ... now does that make sense? Probably not :>}}

Love and light,
philanty

philany,

/*\ Namaste ;-}}

- well, let's see: if A>B and B<C and C>D, and A>D, then A is ?? to C??

>:-}}

Reiki All Around,

All Blessings,

Firekeeper

Congratulations, that is it EXACTLY.

:>}}

philanty

Dear Roxy,

Thank you for your response and for referencing Bruce's post, as well.

Bruce, I read your post with great interest and appreciate the points you made. Thank you.

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More specifically, please let me ask my question this way:

Attunements open the student to receive more energy.

Do the attunements given in Reiki II and Reiki III "tune" the student's body into different vibrational rates of energy (different from Reiki I), tuning the student's body into specific energy as follows:

Those different vibrational rates of energy being--
__ for the physical body--Reiki I.
__ for the mental and emotional energies and enables the student to do distance healings--Reiki II.
__ for the spiritual, including the Mastery of Reiki energies and enables one to teach Reiki to others--Reiki III.

I appreciate your voice and light.

resplen