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posted at 1/20/2007 7:27 PM |
ID# 95355
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If we take responsibility for being mindful, and directing Reiki with our intent, where does our intent come from? Where does the intent of the recipient come from?
When we imagine ourselves intelligent enough to direct the energy, is that ego-intelligence or something else?
What are we being mindful of, when we are being mindful? Where does the direction or guidance arise from, in this mindfulness?
If we are intelligent, and Reiki is not, then we are calling ourselves something different from Reiki. How, then, can we "be Reiki"?
If Reiki is wise, and we are not, then we are calling Reiki something different than ourselves. How is it, then, that we feel this gift moving through our bodies?
I would suggest that there is no more evidence of human intelligence than there is of Reiki's intelligence. Compare the outcomes of human action with and without Reiki. Compare your life and perceptions before and after you learned Reiki.
Does intelligence matter? Or does wisdom? They are related, not the same (with words, I cannot escape duality). I pray each day for wisdom to guide my intent, without mentioning intelligence.
I am still wondering where, when, or how that wisdom arises.
In gratitude and deep respect, and with
Blessings,
Aronaya
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posted at 1/21/2007 8:56 AM |
ID# 95359 This is a reply to: 95355
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"If we take responsibility for being mindful, and directing Reiki with our intent, where does our intent come from? Where does the intent of the recipient come from?"
I, personally, do not "direct" Reiki during a session. My intent/purpose/job is to enter a state where there are no words and I feel the flow.
I am periphally (sp?) vigilant/mindful of dispensing intellectualization or rationalization or verbal labelling during the process.
I also am periphally aware of a need to move/stay. These are not words; it is more an "urge", as opposed to self-talk such as "I need to go there".
This is done within the framework of the traditional positions, which I use as an outline, and the practitioner and recipient fill in the blanks.
I think the "messages/urges" come from a level beyond intellectual, and so it is important for me to keep the intellect out of the process, along with other verbal or ego manifestations. I am me, but not me as I function in the normal day.
That is my mindfulness. That is my intent.
Perhaps the intelligence of the sender and receiver is at a level of intelligence beyond what we know as intellectual intelligence.
Perhaps we do not need to know, nor can we know, what it is, while we are in this form. But we can become alert to it and respond to it. Words are labels, boxes, and subject to personal projections and interpretations.
I'll never understand what the process is.
I gave that up.....I just try to develop my abilities to lessen the interference of intellectual and the rational "I", and develop sensitivity to the energy existance.
That is why I feel there are other levels of awareness by the practitioner and recipient, and we let them come to the front of the stage, during Reiki.
These ideas are totally undeveloped! I've been doing this for ten years, and have never verbalized to others, my inner processes.
Sometimes it is so awesome, that all I can do is stand in reverence for something so beautiful, that I will never understand, yet am able to experience and share.
Robin
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posted at 1/21/2007 10:37 AM |
ID# 95360 This is a reply to: 95355
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aronaya,
/*\ Namaste :-}}
- you said, in part: "I would suggest that there is no more evidence of human intelligence than there is of Reiki's intelligence."
- hmmmmmm
- does not such an assertion seem somehow unwise??
>:-}}
- unless one simply wishes to place oneself apart from most of the rest of human-kind - which sounds like a bit of existential ennui or anomie - not humbleness
>:-}}
- be that as it may
- one view is that to the extent we define (and accept those definitions) human intelligence (use of IQ tests, college entrance tests - which are also achievement tests) we can test for 'intelligence' any number of ways (Mensa entrance 'tests', for example, also).
- and, we can see how people adapt and thrive which is in part an index of 'intelligence'
>:-}}
- but how do we test the intelligence or non-intelligence of ULE?
- and, how do you propose to measure wisdom?
>:-}}
Reiki All Around,
All Blessings,
Firekeeper
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posted at 1/21/2007 1:05 PM |
ID# 95362 This is a reply to: 95360
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We do have tests of intelligence. But some people who are considered intelligent do the most stupid things! x
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posted at 1/21/2007 5:00 PM |
ID# 95364 This is a reply to: 95355
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Otoharo!
Aranaya, We considered all of what you are asking in our reiki group with Xaris persent. Intellegence comes from the brain activity. Knowing, wisdom, beingness, mind, do not. (We conceeded that knowledge is the English word that refers to intellect, Where as knowing as we define this term comes from mind, like wisdom. To help ourselves "get" this, we would place our hands on our heart center area when considering wisdom, beingness, knowing, etc. I wonder if other languages have vocabulary for these spiritual distinctions? Obviously, English does not so we have to define our own terms as best we can.
Lazaris says mind is in every cell of the body. So we are not dependent upon the brain to that extent. However, Lazaris chides us for making light of our brain. As he says, we have developed a magnificent brain and ought to treasure it. (I assume he is comparing us to humans on other planets.
Our group felt mind also in the "atmosphere", meaning to us that we connected mind to whatever, and whereever God is. Being is not in the brain but in our center which is likely the center behind the body, in the energy field. Anyone wanting more on this, will find it in the Conversations with God series no. 4, titled New Revelations.
I consider intent to be from being which is other than brain. If I placed it somewhere, it would be in the center of my being which I consider to be in my energy field, not in the body per se.
Mindfulness, is not in the intellegence, but in this same center, or else contained in the mind found in all cells of the body.
As to your question on the difference between ego-intellegence, or something else, in relation to directing energy, I immediately feel. Apparently, I driect energy through feeling rather than intellect. It seems like I feel where I want the energy to be and it goes there.
Mind is already connected with mind that is (part of or linked to in someway,) God. We are all one. We are all one with God. Mind seems a part of that oneness, to me. We live in a world in which everything is actual. In this actual world we seem to be separate. But, oneness exists. Mind seems to me to be that connection.
We are wise. Reiki is energy. A very (I can't find the word I seek) finely turned energy with so far as we are concerned, unlimited power.
Your question on beingness! I have the opportunity to observe a person who be reiki. Reiki is energy, We are energy in essence.
Lazaris has a really good illustration of this. (I do not know how to draw on the compurter) Draw for yourself a large circle. Fill it up with dots. Put a band of something like continuous e's outside this circle rim and also inside the circle rim. The original circle you drew represents you, your higher Self. The band of e's or squibbles outside the rim is what God sees you through and you see God through. It is the soul. God sees you through your soul, and you see God through your soul. Likewise, You see your higher self through this inside band and your higher self sees you through this inside band. Now focus on one dot. That dot is you in this lifetime. All the other dots are you in other lifetimes. Around this dot that is you, put some squibbles. This represents your unconcious. So you see all of everything through this. So your unconcious colors all of your life.
How can we BE reiki. First we must learn to be. Or to be concious of what it is to be. After this, we bridge the gap from being to also being reiki. Out essence is in the nature of energy, reiki is energy, so we can shift so as to be reiki.
We learned being from a rock. I have given this in the past. Find a rock that your fist feels good holding. A nice river rock is good. Rocks are in the first dimansion as I comprehend this. Rocks only be. So rocks can teach beingness. You can not comprehend this until you experience it. Hold your rock. Hold it while meditating and doing other things when one hand can be free. (It took me three weeks before I could learn.) I am not a good example.
Lazaris taught process as having seven parts. This he draws as a wide U. He put points on it at each end, and at the center. That makes three points. Then he positioned two points on either side making seven points. At the left end, at the beginning is rock, the next point is plant life, the next point is animal life, the bottom is human, and each of the right side points are the changing of human into out spirit selves. I have forgotton the labels for these steps. (I dimly recall these as conscious, sub conscious, unconscious, and superconcious.)
In my comprehension, intellegence is what I developed in college. Reading material. Head stuff. I have so much of this intellegence it has been almost impossible for me to shift into being. Xaris quit working with me some years ago because I could not get out of my head. Now, there are times when I can shift out. And does life feel good when out of the head. When stuck in the head, all thinking is intellectual. Almost all of life is intellectual.
Thanks for your questions. They have stimulated me to look at myself now as against the backdrop of then when I could not get out of my head for love nor money!
finality
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posted at 1/21/2007 8:32 PM |
ID# 95368 This is a reply to: 95364
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Does intuition play any part in this thread, I wonder?
If so, from where does it come...?
And, does the heart come into play, rather than the intellect, in our Reiki practice?
Peace Be,
resplen
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posted at 1/21/2007 10:41 PM |
ID# 95371 This is a reply to: 95368
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Otoharo!
Resplen, I have learned different meanings for intuition. Franisco Coll defined Fire people as Intuitives because they hear spirit clearly. So in this sense, intuition is that through which we hear spirit, or our spirit connection. Air people have hunches. My hunches seem no different from intuition. Perhaps it is, though. Whatever it is that has communication with all of the spirit world, guides, angels, etc., usually comes through intuition, like a pathway. A pathway to God, so to speak. However, I am not remembering any connection of reiki and intuition. Intuition is not the same as feelings, buat both seem to come from somewhat the same direction. Inside me somewhere.
The heart for us, here, is very much a part of reiki. My friend said to the group when she was first sharing about reiki, that she wanted just to get up on the table with the client, there was so much love coming up as she was conduit for reiki. Feelings are not related to intellect at all, so staying in one's feelings is a more sure way of by-passing the brain. thus ego.
A lot of our talk about reiki seems to be a way that ego can get educated to reiki language. So in a sense we open the door to ego inadvertantly.
(I notice the way FK uses ego is what we call the self. whereas the way I use ego, it is other than self. Simply a function in the brain that is unique to this planet.)
I am interested in your own comments about this, too.
finality
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posted at 1/22/2007 6:36 PM |
ID# 95385 This is a reply to: 95371
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Finality,
__My thoughts now (subject to change, as I learn):
Heart is not subject to the rational/analytical processes, as Heart is allied with right-brain function. Heart: feelings, intuition, compassion, vis-à-vis the Intellect and left-brain function.
In the process of “letting go”, of Being, to open the self to ULE, the ego is bypassed and Heart is engaged. It happens, that this “letting-go” process is very effective—as the individual has stepped out of the way: holding no expectation and allowing "highest good" to prevail. When one makes less conscious effort (“hands-off”, so to speak ; ~) and permits oneself to just Be, it follows that the result is so much more. Through this process of “just Being” or “letting go”, coming from the Heart, the practitioner becomes a clear vessel for ULE.
__Finality: "I am not remembering any connection of reiki and intuition."
Through intention, when the practitioner asks that his hands be led or directed to the area of need, is not intuition being engaged? I am not at all sure that Usui ever actually used the word “intuition”, but that he did, I think, speak of asking that our hands be led or directed to the area of need or asking that our hands go to the area of need. It could be that Usui Sensei called it “a knowing” or maybe he did call it intuition.
At any rate he called this process: Reiji Ho.
As I understand it, Reiji Ho is performed at the beginning of a Reiki session. It is prayerful intention to connect with the ULE, to become one with it, to merge with ULE, to Be Reiki. It is a way of getting the head out of the way, of emptying the mind. An inner knowing, a deep knowing, a guidance takes over, aka intuition, as we become more open to listening, a mindfulness, which results in the guiding of the hands to the area of need. What are your thoughts?
Yes, I think of Intuition definitely as "Spirit connection", as you mention.
Peace Be,
resplen
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posted at 1/22/2007 6:41 PM |
ID# 95386 This is a reply to: 95371
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Finality,
__Finality: "A lot of our talk about reiki seems to be a way that ego can get educated to reiki language. So in a sense we open the door to ego inadvertantly."
Yes, that thought has occurred to me too. To the degree that our talk doesn’t get stuck in just talk, but serves as a launching point to increased understanding, insight and, ultimately, to more informed practice, one keeps ego out. Through our talk, one can gain greater clarity. And, so, I think, our talk about Reiki and the language of Reiki is purposeful. The knowledge one gains, through our talk, one can then apply, integrating it into one's practice. (An aside: Is the application of knowledge wisdom?)
Peace Be,
resplen
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posted at 1/22/2007 7:19 PM |
ID# 95387 This is a reply to: 95360
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Yes, honored Firekeeper, I do admit to a little ennui, left over from days of worshipping Camus and Sartre. A prep school habit I from which I am slowly recovering. I bow in acknowledgment and gratitude, and that is totally without irony. (hmmm, there's a good exercise, self-healing to transmute irony...to...ecstasy?)
And I do confess to a deep skepticism about the myriad unspoken assumptions, that all start with the premise that humans are the most intelligent life on Earth. Yes, we adapt and thrive, to the exclusion of other species, and to the endangerment of our habitat. Conventionally speaking, perhaps that is more a lack of wisdom than of intelligence. And, we have a historical bias, considering ourselves intelligent because we have something called language while other species do not. I think that view has been under pressure recently.
And of course, there is the old chestnut that IQ measures what it measures, and by definition that is "intelligence".
In any case, intelligence without wisdom seems dangerous to me. Now, I see I was using "intelligence" in my earlier statement, where I really meant "wisdom". I don't think I want to test ULE for intelligence. In wondering why, I arrived with the feeling that "intelligence" is one of those words we use to finely rank beings on a hierarchy. There was a Simpsons rerun on tonight that spoke directly to that point(!).
As for measuring wisdom, I suspect that true wisdom is immeasurable, and that's what makes it wisdom.
I'll go now and keep looking within for that immeasurability.
Meet you on the other side!
Thank you and
Blessings,
Aronaya
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posted at 1/22/2007 7:22 PM |
ID# 95388 This is a reply to: 95362
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Actually, your reply more concise and meaningful than mine!
I wonder if I can restrict myself to one paragraph at least? I do love to talk and write, sometimes that clouds the ability to listen.
Sounds like a good discipline to try!
Blessings,
Aronaya
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posted at 1/23/2007 9:08 PM |
ID# 95413 This is a reply to: 95355
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Otoharo!
Aronaya, about wisdom. In our practice when we were learning this, we felt wisdom outside us, in the atmosphere, so to speak. We connected with Wisdom, and learned how it felt as different from intellect and knowledge. Wisdom comes from other than head. When I can't place something in my body, I consider that it must come from my center of being, which is in the center of my energy field. (the New Revelation)
finaltiy
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