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Attunements and MS

posted at 1/26/2007 8:22 AM
ID# 95442
Hello Friends,

I have a friend who has MS, to the extent that he must stay in a wheelchair. He responded quite well to a Reiki treatment. I'd like to attune and teach him the first level so he can do self-healing. Would there be any negative consequences to attuning someone with MS?

Blessings,
Roxy

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posted at 1/26/2007 9:02 AM
ID# 95443
This is a reply to: 95442
Ms. Roxanne,

/*\ Namaste :-}}

- as you know there are no guarrantees (except we will be taxed and we will die)

- but, if he consents then it is his risk (such as the risk may be - little if any, I would say)

- though, auto-immune disorders can be sneaky at times

- one approach would be to do a few more Reiki sessions and if he is then ready to learn Reiki 1?? Have at it!

>:-}}

- hope this helps

Reiki All Around,

All Blessings,

Firekeeper

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posted at 1/26/2007 7:19 PM
ID# 95450
This is a reply to: 95442
Otoharo!

I agree with Firekeeper.

I had a client who tried rieki for her MS and she responded to the extent, it gradually healed her.

finaltiy

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posted at 1/27/2007 1:05 AM
ID# 95454
This is a reply to: 95442
Hi Roxy,

My first Reiki Master who taught me level I and II has MS. She has managed to keep herself fairly well through using Reiki on a daily basis. The only negative that I can think of might be the cleansing process afterwards, but then not everyone goes through cleansing anyway so it's difficult to say.

Gentle Blessings
Helen

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posted at 1/27/2007 9:46 AM
ID# 95458
This is a reply to: 95454
Helen,

/*\ Namaste :-}}

- too, depending on the energy going on with folks with an auto-immune disorder, a bit of self-cleansing after sessions is not a bad idea

Reiki All Around,

All Blessings,

Firekeeper

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posted at 1/27/2007 1:43 PM
ID# 95460
This is a reply to: 95458
Firekeeper,

Namaste :))

Yes I agree. My RM was herself very conscious of that too and was keen on teaching the importance of protection and smudging techniques :)

She was also very aware of the importance of being mindful of keeping our own energy to ourselves during Reiki and vice versa of course :)

Gentle Blessings
Helen

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posted at 1/27/2007 2:09 PM
ID# 95461
This is a reply to: 95460
Helen,

/*\ Namaste :-}}

- you said, in part: "....being mindful of keeping our own energy to ourselves during Reiki and vice versa of course" :)

- yes, a 'mantra' that all Reiki students ought to learn and recite ahead of Reiki work and practice whether one is the practitioner or recipient

>:-}}


Reiki All Around,

All Blessings,

Firekeeper

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posted at 2/16/2007 10:40 AM
ID# 95682
This is a reply to: 95442
with intent to "do no harm"....how could this possibly harm anyone....let alone someone who has MS...The only reason I became a master was so that I could give this wonderful "tool" to everyone who already has it and doesn't know it....has nothing to do with me nor the ailment....

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posted at 2/18/2007 9:52 AM
ID# 95696
This is a reply to: 95682
Dear Ponderings,

I think everybody doing Reiki has the intention to do no harm.
However, with auto-immune diseases like MS, there have been incidents when Reiki has made it worse. After all, Reiki boosts the immune system, and if your immune system is attacking your own body, harm could be a result. My understanding is that MS is an auto-immune disease.

As for the old saying "Reiki can do no harm", I have experienced in my own self-healing for tendonitis, a situation where Reiki did do harm. And no, it was not a healing crisis.

Blessings,
Roxy

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posted at 2/22/2007 12:40 PM
ID# 95728
This is a reply to: 95696
I didn't realize this. Thank you for enlightening me. I had thought that intent would be for healing to the Highest Good and therefore, what would occur would enhance this person's healing process.....meaning the immune system would not be invoked....if it would cause harm. But I'm still learning. Your understanding about MS is correct. Your own experience is very interesting. I'd like to know more. There's a lot to think about.

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posted at 2/22/2007 4:41 PM
ID# 95732
This is a reply to: 95728
Dear Ponderings,

A lot of misinformation is given to many in Reiki training. I started out with a lot of it myself. In coming to forums like these, I learned a lot...and a lot through my own experience. I think the important thing to remember is to keep your mind questioning and constantly observing.

Blessings,
Roxy

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posted at 2/22/2007 10:44 PM
ID# 95738
This is a reply to: 95732
Dear Roxy,

Thank you for the interesting comments on your experiences. I am personally aware of 3 occasions where MS has been greatly assisted by the use of reiki, where symptomology has lessened, and one case where a walking stick ended up discarded - not to be replaced by a wheelchair, but because the person went into remission.

If someone reacts to reiki in a way that is perceived as "negative", then for whatever reason, that is what is required by that person at that time. Perhaps MS is the challenge for that person that at the soul level, is meant to be experienced to its fullest. Reiki does not interfere with the lessons needed at the soul level.

Also, it is important to simply allow the reiki to flow, and for the practitioner (and recipient) to not be attached to the outcome.

From your experiences, you may disagree with me, and that is perfectly okay;-) I simply wanted to post another possibility...

On a more mundane level, there are some studies that link aspartame to MS-like symptoms.

Best wishes to all,

Suzibeth

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posted at 2/23/2007 5:30 AM
ID# 95740
This is a reply to: 95738
Dear Suzibeth,

This man definitely had a good reaction to the treatment I gave him. I am not disputing that Reiki can be great for the symptoms of MS.

My question, however, was not about treatments, but attuning him.

Blessings,
Roxy

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posted at 2/23/2007 5:25 PM
ID# 95745
This is a reply to: 95740
My apologies, Roxy - I didn't make it clear. The cases I mentioned were people who had attended reiki I seminars run by the organisation I belong to. They treat themselves and receive addnl reiki support from others. So I would say if your client is willing, go ahead! It is wonderful for anyone to be able to access reiki for themselves at any time. You might also find that this client would like to support you sometimes with reiki as a way of showing gratitiude.

Best wishes,

Suzibeth

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posted at 2/23/2007 8:25 PM
ID# 95748
This is a reply to: 95745
Thank you Suzibeth,

It's good to have input from someone who has had direct experience with this.

Blessings,
Roxy

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posted at 2/24/2007 4:39 AM
ID# 95749
This is a reply to: 95442
Hi Roxy
I have a freind who has MS. I have attuned and trained him at both Reiki 2 and 3. He does also do a lot of other energy work.
His condition has been improved no end, OK on days he does need a wheelchair or a walking stick, but on others he doesn't.
It could be a frame of mind thing as well a condition thing. He is dertermined that MS will not defeat him.

Also after a major operation where it was thought he would be off of work for 9 months or more, by doing self healing twice day the surgeon allowed him to go back to work after 4 months, as long as he told him how he had managed to recover so quickly lol.

Namaste

Rob
Truth is not a property of language because language has not been able to express abstract ideas as efficiently as concrete items

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posted at 2/24/2007 6:39 AM
ID# 95750
This is a reply to: 95749
Thanks Mr. Rob,

I value your input. I'm getting the idea that teaching this man would be a really good idea, if he wants to do it. He did sound as if he'd like to learn.

Blessings,
Ms. Roxy

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posted at 2/24/2007 3:16 PM
ID# 95753
This is a reply to: 95749
Otoharo!

One of my friends fully recovered from ms with reiki. That is, reiki from another person.

finality

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posted at 2/25/2007 12:16 AM
ID# 95756
This is a reply to: 95738
I have to admit that I may be naive concerning the subleties of Reiki....but always felt that if I get myself out of the way....what is meant to occur for the individual that I'm sharing with....will occur. I may not understand the outcome, but that's okay, too....as a human being I'm limited in my expectations of miracles. I like..."that is what is required by that person at that time". Thank you, Suzibeth...Roxy...I love midnight musings....and you help me so much.

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posted at 2/25/2007 12:20 AM
ID# 95757
This is a reply to: 95732
I've enjoyed your words, your art, and your profile. Thank you for sharing.

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posted at 2/25/2007 1:06 AM
ID# 95761
This is a reply to: 95756
Thank you, Ponderings. This MS thread has been very interesting. I also wanted to comment on the thinking around reiki stimulating the immune system and auto-immune disease. My understanding (and my 10 years practice seems to support this), is that reiki has a balancing effect. For example, my clients with low blood pressure often find it normalises after reiki, the same with high blood pressure. I always advise diabetic clients to closely monitor their blood sugar levels after reiki too, in case their pancreas is stimulated and/or they are able to make better use of the blood sugar present. They often find they need significantly less insulin because of this effect. In terms of auto-immune problems, I've noticed lupus settling down, and forms of arthritis also responding, in addn to the MS cases I've outlined. Clients of mine who suffer anxiety often become more relaxed, and those with chronic fatigue frequently find more energy (though also listen to their bodies sooner in relation to their fatigue and rest when necessary...)

So it seems to me that reiki helps to balance/find optimum function, so sometimes that may mean a "slowing down", and in others, stimulation.

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posted at 2/25/2007 9:25 AM
ID# 95769
This is a reply to: 95761
Good Sunday morning to you, Suzibeth....fibromyalgia...also responds very well to Reiki....I loved waking to your words today. Thank you