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I would like to know what is the difference between a Usui level III (ART) attunement and a Master attunement

Hello!

Some Reiki Masters will split up Level III into two parts. The first part is for becoming a Master Healer. After that, if you want, you can take Master Teacher training.

I, and most of the Masters I know, put the two parts together and just call it Master training. I rather suspect that the practice of dividing it up is just to milk more money out of the student.

Blessings,
Roxy

giltimus,

/*\ Namaste :-}}

- the attunement process is now so widely available in books, manuals, on the internet, etc that, for myself, dividing the Master Training into sub-levels seems just a bit ridiculous (and, I acknowledge the crasser motivations pointed out by Ms. Roxanne)

- when I undertook the Master level the tradition was that one commits to more than simply Reiki practices at the Master Level - one becomes more active in sharing knowledge and gaining knowledge about Reiki and energy work - this does not necessarily mean Teachiing Reiki classes for money (or otherwise) or doing Reiki for money

- so, I not only was attuned but learned to attune (and I was strongly encouraged to assist with Reiki 1 and 2 classes before starting the Master work - which I did and a good deal about teaching was absorbed in the doing) and had to pass at least one attunement to complete the work

- so, I feel that if people come to the Master Level with sufficient time spent in Reiki shares and other Reiki practices (or assisting with Reiki classes) a second Master Tier is superfluous (but then, so many seem to be in such a hurry to get that Master Designation, that perhaps dividing up the Master level slows things down a bit - unintentionally, no doubt)

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- but, gaining and sharing knowledge about Reiki and energy work can take many forms and paths - offering Reiki classes being just one - holding Reiki shares being another

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hope this helps

Reiki All Around,

All Blessings,

Firekeeper

Dear Gilitmas,
I agree that FK and Roxy could be right as some teachers could break things up for the money. Some teachers will charge for a person to start from the beginning with them even though the student may have already had Reiki 1 and II training from another teacher. Some teachers will do an audit and not charge while some others charge. It can create some trust issues with student and teacher. The teacher not believing the student really knows Reiki and the student feeling distrusted and then oftentimes not trusting the teacher as the student can feel scammed if the teacher doesn't come through with what the student expected or feels entitled too.
Pay attention to your intuition.
peace,
Prosperity,

My teacher says that mastery comes from using reiki daily, for self-support, self-development, and also to help others. Remember Mrs Takata always said to look after number one (meaning work on yourself - you can only really look after others when you are in good shape yourself).

Think about how few people she trained and authorised as teachers. The Japanese say that only in the west can you do instant reiki. They train for many years, most not moving beyond level II.

So I would ask this question of myself when thinking about going through the levels - am I really ready? Have I explored everything reiki is teaching me at this level?

I would not proceed to teacher level unless I intended to teach. I also would not value a course that made me a "master" after a few hours or days.

Classroom teachers have to study a number of years at university, prac teaching included, before being set loose on students. I have more respect for teachers of reiki who treat their teacher training as a long apprenticeship with an experienced teacher than those who do a "quickie" course (sadly, because the motivation to be called "master" is sometimes stronger than the true urge to serve within the reiki community). Excuse my cynicism, but that has been my experience when meeting many masters.

The attunements mean nothing unless the student takes the time to adjust to the energy shifts, work on/with him or herself, and wait until a sense of readiness indicates it's time to do another level. And for some, that may only ever be First Degree...

I have no intention of insulting anyone here - just voicing a personal opinion based on 10 years of personal practice, and exposure to a very small handful of wonderful reiki teachers, and (unfortunately), exposure to a large number of well-intentioned but poorly trained ones.

That said - individuals must decide for themselves. :)

In my lineage, I was taught to teach Level III separately from Master Teacher. It made sense in my own training, and still makes sense as I teach others. The step up to Level III from Level II was a significant leap for me, and I was happy to have quite a while, I think 8 months, to absorb that into my being. Then, in Master Teacher class, was much better able to focus on learning and practicing the attunement process itself, and thereby learn to teach. Afterwards, a flexible apprenticeship period, where I audited my teacher's classes, and with student permission, observed the attunement process (an amazing experience, that!).

This all worked for me in my learning, so I teach that way to my students. This honors my teacher and her lineage. Oh, we don't confer the "Master" title until the Master Teacher class, Level III is just "Level III".

As far as the money angle goes, I see that fees at Level III and Master vary even more widely than for the earlier levels. I'm sure it could be a motivation for some -- and we all deserve to earn what the world decides we are worth according to others' evaluation of our integrity and sincerity -- however I think one can make a reasonable case for alternate Master teaching structures just on the merits.

Based on earlier threads here, and on personal experience, I always have a serious conversation with a student who wants to take Level III, to make sure the sincerity is there on BOTH our parts, for that class to take place. It's very, very important for teacher and student to approach that level with clear intent and balance.

I won't disagree that many others may approach master teaching with less care than is prudent. My response to that unfortunate circumstance is just to continue doing my best for my students.

Blessings,
Aronaya

Otoharo!

Aroonaya, thanks for this information. I was not given new information at level three. so I am curious what there is to teach. I would appreciate an email if you wish to share it.

finaltiy

aronaya,

/*\ Namaste :-}}

- and, in acknowledging that there is a rather noticeable lack of standards regarding what constitutes adequate training for one to claim to be a Reiki Master, you do service to those who may be looking at the Reiki tradition as part of their journey

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- and you do service to the practice of Reiki

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Reiki All Around,

All Blessings,

Firekeeper

(Smiles gratefully and bows) Thank you, Firekeeper! I also honor your diligent service at this Cafe to foster a vital worldwide conversation, debate and communion.

Blessings,
Aronaya

Otoharo!

I join you both in what you have said!

finality

Otoharo!

Thank you Aronaya, for you explanation. Very interesting.

finality

Aronaya,

/*\ Namaste :-}}

- most kind (returning the bow)

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Reiki All Around,

All Blessings,

Firekeeper

You are welcome. It's been four years since I trained at Level III, and it's still a joyful mystery to me!

Blessings,
Aronaya

Greetings,
I have had a problem with some who don't do initiations which have been passed from teacher to teacher which are the master III initiation attunements and then to learn how to do those initiation attunements could be master/teacher. Hands on attunements, doing the symbols on people seems to be accepted by some as that's it and then you can pass that down as master. I already knew energy balancing and so that just didn't cut it for me and even though I've been told I'm a master by one who didn't do initiations on me, I certainly don't feel like I am. And this person just keeps on talking about her new Reiki students and it annoys me as it seems like leading ones down a dead end street. I was satisfied as Reiki II and will stay that way until I meet someone in my area and when I'm ready. I did tell this RM that I felt that she overqualified herself and that is hurtful to people and she did the victim thing with me like I was the one who was being hurtful even though I told her not from an angrey insulting viewpoint. Anyway that's my viewpoint and my advice is if it's too good and too cheap and instant Reiki Mastery within 2 months then think twice with the person especially if they are persistant in wanting you as a student and have all the lastest Reiki books.
thanks,
peace,
Prosperity

Otoharo!

Quite astute, Prosperity. A good read.

finality

Dear Finality,
Thank you. I appreciate you and value your opionions!
peace,
Prosperity