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Otoharo!

This has been my question for years. I finally have come to this comprehension of what it means and something of how we attain it.

An enlightened person is one who has cleared out all the shadow self, all the dark energy of mind, body, soul. No emotions. Only feelings. They are all light.

How to attain it then, is doing what all of us are doing, clearing out the baggage. Meditation is wonderful as a tool. Reiki is the main support.

finaltiy

Nice. :) Thanks for sharing that experience and insight.

Pleasant journeys!

finality,

/*\ Namaste :-}}

- one view is that 'enLightenment' is that state of Being where all Samsaric Karma has been resolved

>:-}}

- may we more closely approximate this state from one lifetime to the next??

- of course

- waging compassionate action is a good modus operandi

>:-}}

Reiki All Around,

All Blessings,

Firekeeper

enlightment, for me at this time, is an awarness of the shadow self, and the light self, and all in between.
Observing it all, and being at peace, acknowleging and accepting.

Uh! I've a way to go yet, methinks.

meditation as tool and reiki for support... thats good.

jaguar,

/*\ Namaste :-}}

- Shadow is a manifestation of Karma

Reiki All Around,

All Blessings,

Firekeeper

One of my teachers long ago defined enlightenment as merging the personality with the soul. It took my thought process some time to figure that one out. I now work on my personality and shadow self.
I think the word Ascension at least to me is what I strive for.From talking to people the word Ascension seems to have replaced Enlightenment. People used both.

Blessings
Ashkee

There was a discussion on this earlier. Look up thread #94662

love and peace,
Harsh

Otoharo!

I tried to look this up and found myself always on a different message board.

finality

Otoharo!

I should not have used the term shadow self. Its connotation is misleading. We do not deal in karma. In our system karma does not exist. Reiki is the primary tool for clearing out anything not clean in the physical body, the intellect, etc. When the whole system is pure, reiki is most powerful.

finality

Harsh,
Thank you. I will look that thread up.

Blessings
Ashkee

harsh,

Hi.

That was then. This is now. Karma for all of us has changed since the moment of 94662.

:)

Cheers,

RC

Karma is, cause and effect: you reap as you sow.
So, for that matter, those who have done something in the past which probably comes back to haunt them. But thats getting of topic.

I recieved some critisisim some time back. I had a choice, either I could feel bad about it or I could feel good about it.

I chose the later, and now am reaping the benifits.

I'm thankfull for that critic, but it wasn't critisism so much as kindly advice.

Depends on how one wishes to look at things.

Otoharo!

One of my songs is "I Choose Joy" which follows what you are saying. that song egged me on way back when I wrote it to sctively choose my response to things in life rather than just react.

finality

cool!

My dear Mr. Firekeeper,

I wonder if compassionate action done to accrue good Karma works. Wouldn't it really have to be action taken from true compassionate motivation and feeling to work?

Rock On!
Ms.Roxy

Ms: Roxanne,

/*\ Namaste :-}}

- so good to see you here!!

- one view is that to the extent we are aware that compassionate action accrues rather 'better' Karma than harmful action, we may legitimately say we are at least a little bit enligtened

>:-))

- I have long maintained that in the end no compassionate action is purely selfless for exactly the reason you have suggested - we benefit on our path to enlightenment and freedom from the cycle of death and rebirth according to the Karma we accrue

- I have no problem with this

- but remember, if you go into a situation and do something "compassionate" but with thoughts that you will benenfit, the Karma accrued will in some way reflect this more 'polluted' intention you have applied to your actions

>:-}}

- thoughts and feelings accrue Karma just as do actions

>:-}}

- and, even with a little less than pure Karma hanging around, one may traverse the Bardo successfully and get off the Wheel of Samsara - but that lingering Karma will need to be addressed in one's next state of Being

- I suspect that those who choose to return as living bodhisattvahs do so, at least in part, to resolve that nagging bit of Karma on their way to buddhahood

>:-}}

- take care

Reiki All Around,

All Blessings,

Firekeeper

Otoharo!

So good to hear your voice again. I have been wondering about you for some time now! How is your art coming along? Fine I am sure.

finaltiy

Hello Finality and Mr. Firekeeper,

Thanks for your greetings. I seem to have times when I become totally involved in my artwork, to the exclusion of most everything else. So if I disappear from time to time, that's probably what's going on.

Rock On!
Roxy

Rock on, roxy!

I missed your afro...

Thanks Jaguar!

Dear Mr. Firekeeper,

Yes, definitely compassionate action done for karma reasons is better than harmful or nonexistent action. It just strike me that it's a lot like Christians being good just to get to heaven, not because it's the right way to be.

I always thought, though, that Karma was meant to be a means of personal evolution. How can a person be enlightened unless there is an intrinsic change within the person him or herself?

Rock On!
Ms. Roxy

sorry , I don't mean anything....but Enlightenment is not really a state......

The word Enlightenment comes from chinese(覺悟, 悟道)

If you were attuned to reiki, Enlightenment is the same meaning of dai ku myo(大光明)......

It might seems different, but in chinese dai ku myo means:someone regain their lost self, ability, wisdom(knowladge)

Is hard for westen to understand , because , of the words problem......I have been trying to translate chinese into english , but I failed.....

Maybe you can try to read some buddhist book, and you might be able to understand Enlightenment......

Even in chinese, only very few people can understand Enlightenment......

Enlightenment means: someone understand the life, what someone kills you , why you becomes a human, why you becomes a ghost or a pig , for someone who Enlightenment , they really know why , and believe in it......

Enlightenment even knowing what its mean, it does means that you will believe in it......

If someone wants to be Enlighten, he have to know what Enlightenment means , and believe in it , and work for it....

But Enlightenment is a state where there were no state, even you thinking of no state , you are thinking......you got to forget stop thinking(this is what we called"no mind")

Before reaching Enlightenment , you got to be no mind, try to understand, i knew is hard for you to believe in me(cause humans always think that himself are right)

But I hope you believe me, cause I really wants to tell you what Enlightenment means......but , Enlightenment is actually something that not possible been told in language...

But is also very strange that , why chinese can understand the meaning of Enlightenment?(I really don't know)

To tell you what is Enlightenment, i can help you to feel it yourself(the meaning), to reach "no state", even reaching no state is a state, so you got to go beyond no state and reach" nothing"......

If someone really Enlightenment, he no longer need sex, no longer needs food , and he can die when he wants to (even choosing the way to die and when to die)

For a Enlightenment Person , his body will remain soft when he were dead, and will not be rotten......

This is true, but for some people who Enlightenment , they don't wish to leave their body for them , so their body might be rotten too(depends on that person)....

After his body vanish , there will be something left behind....something dagoba......

I wish this could help you , if you can , try to learn chinese, cause chinese got more information and history on Enlightenment...

sorry , I don't mean anything....but Enlightenment is not really a state......

The word Enlightenment comes from chinese(覺悟, 悟道)

If you were attuned to reiki, Enlightenment is the same meaning of dai ku myo(大光明)......

It might seems different, but in chinese dai ku myo means:someone regain their lost self, ability, wisdom(knowladge)

Is hard for westen to understand , because , of the words problem......I have been trying to translate chinese into english , but I failed.....

Maybe you can try to read some buddhist book, and you might be able to understand Enlightenment......

Even in chinese, only very few people can understand Enlightenment......

Enlightenment means: someone understand the life, what someone kills you , why you becomes a human, why you becomes a ghost or a pig , for someone who Enlightenment , they really know why , and believe in it......

Enlightenment even knowing what its mean, it does means that you will believe in it......

If someone wants to be Enlighten, he have to know what Enlightenment means , and believe in it , and work for it....

But Enlightenment is a state where there were no state, even you thinking of no state , you are thinking......you got to forget stop thinking(this is what we called"no mind")

Before reaching Enlightenment , you got to be no mind, try to understand, i knew is hard for you to believe in me(cause humans always think that himself are right)

But I hope you believe me, cause I really wants to tell you what Enlightenment means......but , Enlightenment is actually something that not possible been told in language...

But is also very strange that , why chinese can understand the meaning of Enlightenment?(I really don't know)

To tell you what is Enlightenment, i can help you to feel it yourself(the meaning), to reach "no state", even reaching no state is a state, so you got to go beyond no state and reach" nothing"......

If someone really Enlightenment, he no longer need sex, no longer needs food , and he can die when he wants to (even choosing the way to die and when to die)

For a Enlightenment Person , his body will remain soft when he were dead, and will not be rotten......

This is true, but for some people who Enlightenment , they don't wish to leave their body for them , so their body might be rotten too(depends on that person)....

After his body vanish , there will be something left behind....something dagoba......

I wish this could help you , if you can , try to learn chinese, cause chinese got more information and history on Enlightenment...

now, now, hearth.....you mean everything...and that's quite all right.....I'm here to learn....but careful, please...for you've much to learn, too, my friend...even being chinese

Sorry if I said anything that make you feel uncomfortable....

sorry for that.....

I know I got alot of things to learn, that's true......

But , I really hope to let you know the meaning of "that"(really, cause , you know , chinese people is changing).....

To be true to you , many skills that chinese used to know have dissapear(gone)......

I really hope to speard out things to the whole world, or it will be gone too......