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Have any of you reiki masters ever had anyone come to you for attunement, whom you feel deep in your gut are not ready or simply not there for the right reason?

I know that it's said that anyone can practise reiki, but are there some people who simply shouldn't do it, for various reasons?

L&L

I get the impression that nowadays, Reiki classes are a business and if you show up and pay the fee you are in like Flynn.

I will be doing a very small class for the first time, so I have never been presented with this situation.

I can imagine there would be several reasons why an individual might not be a good candidate for a class.

Birdy

birdy,

Hi,

Would you elaborate on: "I can imagine there would be several reasons why an individual might not be a good candidate for a class."

Cheers,

RC

Would one not hope that the Reiki, even if an attunement would be to their highest good? Perhaps, be what they need the most?

Hi thais,

Yes a few years back my Reiki partner and I taught a student Reiki I. At the end of the day she tried to sell us some expensive health products which she was involved with, which seemed a bit rude and inappropriate at the time. About a month or so later she approached us and asked us to teach her Reiki II, her motivation was purely and simply to race through the levels, set up business and to make money as a practitioner alongside her health products. Maybe it was very judgemental of me but I politely refused and recommended that she find another teacher. Rightly or wrongly I went with my instincts on this one, I just knew that I wasn't the right teacher for her.

Gentle Blessings
Helen

Not at all,

I would hesitate to do an attunment with someone who was emotionally unstable and not under a doctors care. Yes I know Reiki would probably help them, but maybe a trip to a medical doctor would make a great difference in their here and now world and quality of life. Then let them, at their own pace heal with Reiki, while being protected by a needed drug or therapy.

Psychological problems can be very harmful to many people if they are not taken care of. Maybe caring begins with saying no and explaining why the answer is no.

Question back:

Would you attune someone who was only out for financial gain?

Have a wonderful day!

Birdy

birdy,

Hi,

I agree that there are some severly neurotic and psychotic folks (especially the latter) for whom handling the energy would be very troublesome and perhaps even harmful). I would also wager that most of the more disturbed folks would not turn up for a Reiki class (particularly those who are institutionalized). True, there are some who live in the community but some are nonetheless not legally competent to manage their own affairs and decisions. So it is not likely one would encounter them either. Most of the severer sociapaths are so low in compassion that they will not find their way there either.

As for those who wish to make $$$ doing Reiki? I doubt very many people who want to make a lot of money will go into Reiki.

LOL

And who am I to say that someone who charges for Teaching and\or Reiki treatments is "only" in it for the $$$?? That would be a rather cynical assumption. Yet, even if one charges, there is compassionate aspects to doing Reiki for others. But, the recipients must realize that they have to use the energy to manage their own 'healing'.

For myself, it is unethical for me to say I healed someone by doing Reiki for them (whether I was paid or not). That would be an entirely unsubstantiated claim on my part.

So, if a student comes and says Teach me Reiki 1-3 so I can then teach others and try to make a living you would turn that person away? For myself, I might first suggest a little reality check to that person about the more realistic outlook for $$$ and Reiki as a 'profession'.

:)

Cheers,

RC

It is not only about those who want to learn reiki for the money making aspect.

I have heard quite a few stories from people whose reiki master/teacher almost scared them! Some who almost bully & threaten them into submission & the continuance of their learning with them!! Surely these people should never have been attuned in the first place, as it would seem that reiki has not improved their character?? Some reiki masters can send out pretty bad vibes. I'm sure they're in the minority, of course!

thais,

Hi,

Such sociopaths are difficlut to spot even for very experienced folks. But to assume the worst???

:)

Cheers,

RC

Hi,

All in all I would say "Follow your gut feeling". If we are supposed to listen to our intuition, we better listen to our body too.

I would rather err (sp) on the side of caution than do something that would harm others.

Every profession has bad apples.

Birdy

Otoharo!

These are my sentiments also. i taught a student one time that I wished I had known better before the class. Her thinking processes were so scattered, I am sure that she did not comprehend any of the class.

finaltiy

birdy,

Hi,

So, you would count yourself among those who hold that there are instances where Reiki could do harm? Would you also hold that someone who 'receives' an attunement for the wrong reasons, so to speak (however different people define them), might not actually become attuned?

I am not expressing my stance on this by asking the question. I also wonder how many Teachers will turn away a paying student except under the most unusual circumstances?

:)

Sometimes Karma seems to be the manifestation of the old saw: no good deed goes unpunished.

lol

Cheers,

RC

Okay. A road can do no harm but a truck can still turn you into a pancake.

I would think in most of the instances of deciding not to attune someone, hopefully you would suggest a very aggressive regiment of Reiki along with whatever the medical community can do to help that person. Listening to your intuition IS part of Reiki. So, do you NOT listen? Maybe it's not the right time.

Shoulda, woulda, couldas are cold bedfellows when bad things happen to people (for whatever reasons).

There are more issues here. Giving attunements, your belief that it does not harm,personal ethics and how you go about caring for others.

VERY sticky issue. Hopefully I will never be called upon to make such decisions.

P.S. Reiki does no harm.

Birdy

Birdy,

Hi,

You said: "I would think in most of the instances of deciding not to attune someone, hopefully you would suggest a very aggressive regiment of Reiki along with whatever the medical community can do to help that person."

Sounds as if you think every 'problem" is a medical problem. Sociopathy is not a medical problem. Neither are most neuroses. And, we attune many folks who are not 'sick'.

As for Reiki doing no harm? I recommend a bit of thought about that. If you send distance Reiki to someone suffering schizophreinia or other major psychosis, it is entirely possible that this person will not understand the energy input at all and as a restult of misinterpreting it may have an exacerbation. I would wager that this would be deemed harmful by most mental health workers.

And, there may be instances where sending energy where permission has not been given that unforseen, unhappy reults may manifest.

We need to own what we do and think about what we are doing before acting. Not all actions deemed compassionate have the desired outcomes (which of course is the big hang up with desiring outcomes from our Reiki pratices). The precise effects of our actions and the Karma that will accrue cannot be predicted, afferall.

Cheers,

RC

You know,

We all do the best we can with what we have. When I began Reiki I went in with the belief and trust in Reiki, not myself. My only intent when doing a session is to be that straw that allows Reiki energy to enter the person, and from there on it is up to them, to accept or not. I can offer you a piece of cake but you don't have to eat it.

For myself I need to keep it simple or get caught up in "my healing abilities", which do not exist. However much I learn or think I learn is only a spit in the bucket to what is really happening. Can I take credit, no, but I can enjoy the glow from the person who is activating their own healing process. I am doing such a wonderful job just standing there with my hands on a person. I am grateful for the opportunity and happy to help, that's it.

You ask permission to send Reiki and hopefully give the person a heads up on what might happen, and if not accepted send it on to the world.

No, I don't believe every problem is a medical problem, far from it, but we were discussing why in some instances you might not attune someone. You cannot discount the medical community though.

Like I said, we do the best we can. We don't know the future, nor would I want to. Accept some type of responsibility, of course. Hence, the discussion, right?

Don't forget Reiki heals on the different levels. Any level could be sick. How can we tell if someone is spiritually sick. Emotional and physically it is easier. We can't do it all.

Have a wonderful day I have to go play patty cakes with my computer at work.

Birdy

I remember after I got attuned to level two, I offered reiki to a friend, and he accepted, just in the nature of an experiment so you know.
A few weeks later he quit his job, seperated from his wife, sold the house. A complete new start.
A year later, give or take a few months, he's back with his wife a new job and in rented accomadation.
One doesn't know what the future brings, If I'd known was anything wrong in his realationship, maybe I'd have hesitated with my suggestion.
It wasn't my intention to start a huge healing vibe which resulted in what happened. I felt guilty for a while after the break up, thinking that my actions by doing the reiki could have caused it.
But things worked out.
It was a good lesson.

Hi,

I do sessions with cancer patients and their families. All I can intend is that it is for their highest good. It is really amazing at the things that happen.

It almost never turns out the way you expect. It's usually better.

Birdy