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"And I'm still wondering, as I stated earlier: If results don't matter, then why bother to do reiki or any energy treatment at all?"

Dear Bruce,

You ask that twice of me. I did not reply to it because I did make the assertation. That being that results don't matter.

When channeling Reiki one is, or supposed to be, shooting for outcome that is determined or 'managed' by a higher power. As opposed to what a Reiki practitioner for instance might think what is best for the recipient. Or a doctors ego or an insurance company.

Western medical science still has it's place, deeply flawed as it is. Reiki technology is far from being ready to take over at this point I agree.

As far as result based application of "modern medicine" much of that is "close your eyes and throw a dart" as far as tests, drugs and procedures in attempting to cure a patient. This many times sapping the patients waning strenght (life force), giving more foothold to a present disease and exacerbating their suffering.

If nothing else Reiki, when mindfully channeled does not harm. Reiki not mindfully applied is not Reiki. Western medicine is most often content to torture the patient until the person "sinks or swims" as far as recovery. This with little and usually no regard to the person energetic/ spiritual condition. Which was probably the root cause of the disease.

Namaste,
Michael

"And I'm still wondering, as I stated earlier: If results don't matter, then why bother to do reiki or any energy treatment at all?"

Dear Bruce,

You ask that twice of me. I did not reply to it because I did make the assertation. That being that results don't matter.

When channeling Reiki one is, or supposed to be, shooting for outcome that is determined or 'managed' by a higher power. As opposed to what a Reiki practitioner for instance might think what is best for the recipient. Or a doctor's ego or an insurance company.

Western medical science still has it's place, deeply flawed as it is. Reiki technology is far from being ready to take over at this point I agree.

As far as result based application of "modern medicine" much of that is "close your eyes and throw a dart" as far as tests, drugs and procedures in attempting to cure a patient. This many times sapping the patients waning strenght (life force), giving more foothold to a present disease and exacerbating their suffering.

If nothing else Reiki, when mindfully channeled does not harm. Reiki not mindfully applied is not Reiki. Western medicine is most often content to torture the patient until the person "sinks or swims" as far as recovery. This with little and usually no regard to the person energetic/ spiritual condition. Which was probably the root cause of the disease.

Namaste,
Michael

Otoharo!

The practitioner is focused on being out of the way, just to be an open channel for reiki. So the practitioner can not have their head set on an outcome. That part is definitely true. But the recipient who is the one to take the reiki sure does have the end result in mind and holds it. I am having wonderful results with reiki. However during the night when reiki is being channeled, I am asleep and nothing about it until I awaken. When I make the exchange for reiki, that sets the process in motion even before the reiki begins.

azalee

"However during the night when reiki is being channeled, I am asleep and nothing about it until I awaken. When I make the exchange for reiki, that sets the process in motion even before the reiki begins."

Dear Friend,

There you go again. You have this habit of brings up concepts that react and reach toward one's wee delicate tendrils of wonder. Then one or a few of your tendrils find purchase and pull the unwitting persons consciousness beyond the cosmos at warp drive. This dynamic being the cause of RC's finality induced headaches I think. For me it does not give a headache per se but some pressure. Remind me of dinvorium effect.

Which can give me a headache but typically rips my middle self out of my skin with the force of a 800 horse power race boat pulling a novice water skier out of the water on take off. Challenging to say the least.

Anyhoo, don't go changing. (in that regard)

Namaste,
Michael

good job, Michael.....slammed flat and then lifted up,again...wonder who's surviving this.....??? Even if what you say might be even close to being true....do you have the right to say it?

Dear ponderings,

You seem "loaded for bear" with me of late.

As far as posting on the Cafe, Finality and I go back a ways. Longer than you been visiting I dare say. We have never exchanged an ill word or thought as far as I know. Far from it.

If it would help to paraphrase what you seem to be angst-ing about; I was thanking her for bringing concepts that challenge our thought.

You seem to be projecting on me in a big way.

namaste,
Michael

Otoharo!

I can clarify what I said this way. During the time my partner and I were both learning the reiki ropes so to speak, what I said was true about the receiver being the one who holds the outcome. This applies to all of us.

The last section is referring to my present situation whereas I do not have clients and have contracted with my partner for weekly treatments. These I pay for at the beginning of each month. This is ongoing.

After I had healed most of my stuff, then healings began. I am able to do the following because I am taking charge of all the me's currently on earth. We label these different because these are the healings of my ongoing lives. I do not understand this just accept that it is true. However my partner, being fourth density now, does understand it. I just have to accept it and go on with it. These healings I do not pay for at the beginning of the month because who knows when these will occur. So I pay at the time they are coming up for healing. This may happen during the night so I see the energy usually and know it is happening but the end result is that one of my other lives is actually the one being healed. this I pay for when it happens And even to muddy the waters a bit more, Even though I saw this take place (and sometimes do not see it), the healing does not happen until the moment I give my cash (or whatever the exchange is) to her. The exchange triggers one of my other lives' healing.

Perhaps I should not report all this, but I thought you might want to know some of the exceedingly powerful uses of reiki.

azalee

then I must apologize, Michael, for mis-perceiving your words.....I'm glad that you and finality are good friends.
so sorry...my bad....

I had a habit of making things very complicateed. A wise woman once told me to keep things simple so I endeavour to do that. I realise that I'm not as informed as some of my betters and used to give myself a hard time over what he said/she said etc.,

For all that I've been on the reiki journey for the last several years, I still feel that I'm only just stepped on the path. And I learn something new every day, or at least am reminded of such.

I'm not sure if this has anything to do with the above posts but I'm grateful nonetheless.

What a great adventure.

Otoharo!

what do you mean your "betters"?

finality

finality said on

>Otoharo!
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>what do you mean your "betters"?
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>finality

just what I said. Maybe I should re-phrase that to my peers?

good and wise words, jaguar. thank you for sharing.

Otoharo!

Yes, peers is much much better!

finality