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posted at 12/5/2007 8:57 PM
ID# 98596
Hi everyone,
Why is it important to remove your watch while doing Reiki? Do you think it really makes a difference?
Thanks,

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posted at 12/5/2007 9:26 PM
ID# 98597
This is a reply to: 98596
Otoharo!

I never thought about it., i just did as I was taught. In fact, I assumed that it simply made me more relaxed to have nothing metal on me.

finality

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posted at 12/6/2007 6:15 AM
ID# 98600
This is a reply to: 98596
Hello Nevr2late,

I remember my first Reiki Master saying that all metal (rings, necklace, watches etc.) should be removed during a Reiki session. Metal absorbes energy. Not that it is a bad thing, just that you want to direct all energy to the person receiving the treatment. Probably the person receiving should also remove their jewelery as well.

Animallover28

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posted at 12/6/2007 7:26 AM
ID# 98603
This is a reply to: 98600
Wow!!!!!

I have never heard this before. I never take anything off especially my wedding rings. (menopause,swollen fingers) and when my clients ask me if they should i always say what makes you feel most comfortable. But that is the way i run my business. Comfort promotes relaxing.
I have never had a problem with jewlery.

love andlight, harmony

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posted at 12/6/2007 9:27 AM
ID# 98605
This is a reply to: 98596
nevr2late,

/*\ Namaste :-}}

- done it both ways - never any differences suggested to me or recipients

- however, for my own comfort (mostly) I take the wrist watch off - it also means no hard objects poking recipients

>:-}}

- wedding ring stays on (it is only other adornment I sport on a regular basis)

Reiki All Around,

All Blessings,

Firekeeper

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posted at 12/6/2007 11:47 AM
ID# 98611
This is a reply to: 98605
.. Dear Nevr2late,
Rings, watches anything constricting blocks energy flow,
circulation etc., yet I can respect comfort and if a person feels comfortable with rings on constantly or wanting legs crossed, shoes on etc. then that's the way I have left it and don't know if it's necessarily a good thing.
Peace,
Prosperity

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posted at 12/6/2007 2:16 PM
ID# 98618
This is a reply to: 98611
prosperity,

/*\ Namaste :-}}

- you said, in part: "Rings, watches anything constricting blocks energy flow, circulation etc.,"

- what credible evidence do have for making this statment vis a vis jewelry??

- nothing in my experience has led me to such a conclusion about watches and rings

- besides which not all rings or watches are constricting

- now, pantyhose is likely to be constricting >:-}}

- as are brassiers that are too small, tight socks, and other 'snug' underwear

- do we and the recipients revove all of those as well before doing Reiki??

>:-}}}}}}

Reiki All Around,

All Blessings,

Firekeeper

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posted at 12/6/2007 2:41 PM
ID# 98619
This is a reply to: 98618
Dear firekeeper,
Well I do recommend wearing loose fitting clothing but like I stated, I do let the person be as they choose with rings and all and that I don't know if I'm correct in that. My first RM taught about how rings inhibit energy and communication. I did not ask for proof as like many I went by faith in my teacher as he seemed pretty knowledgable about such things and being raised Catholic with the hands together, fingertips pointing up in prayer must have some purpose and another metaphysical friend years ago told me about how sensitive the fingertips are to receiving energy and I have to take my rings off at night myself as I can feel them and they just bug me just as I'm sure pantyhose or bras or shoes would bug a person to wear 24/7.
Peace,
Prosperity

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posted at 12/6/2007 4:30 PM
ID# 98624
This is a reply to: 98596
Hi, namaste ... I was taught to remove watches before giving Reiki. I think there are two aspects to this - one, as Firekeeper says, is to avoid poking the patient with anything on us as we work, and the second, I think, is that the Reiki energy can be pretty powerful and may affect the watches.
My mother always had problems with watches, her energies often sent them haywire, whereas when any of the rest of the family wore them, they were fine.
I do not want to be responsible for somebody`s watch going haywire, and therefore, I take mine off, and ask the patient to remove theirs. Also any jewellery which might snag when doing a complete Reiki session, e.g. complicated necklaces, or long earrings.
Hope this helps.
Love and light,
Philanty

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posted at 12/6/2007 4:58 PM
ID# 98628
This is a reply to: 98596
Otoharo!

I have remembered further. After we began being reiki with each other, we had to set a time table so that each of us would be on the table for about the same amount of time. So we used my big faced watch to time our posotions as well as the end of each session. If only two of us, we timed them for five minutes per hand position. If five or six persons, we would set the time for each session then guage hand positions from that.

finality
ps. My soul mate always was able to hold more power than the rest of us. she also was rebellious at times about what rules we set at each session. For instance, when she saw a dark energy at a position she held that position until the darkness went away. We were supposed to hold it only the alloted time. I rebelled at her rebellion!

finaltiy

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posted at 12/6/2007 5:03 PM
ID# 98629
This is a reply to: 98619
prosperity,

/*\ Namaste :-}}

- to act on faith alone (ignoring facts - or making them up to suit the situation) is being just as blind as acting only on facts and ignoring intuition

>:-}}

- and if all we do is take what teachers say as 'gospel' we might as well throw curiosity and intellectual growth in the dumper for that may be the result

Reiki All Around,

All Blessings,

Firekeeper

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posted at 12/6/2007 8:10 PM
ID# 98630
This is a reply to: 98596
Dear Friends,

It sounds like from the posts that "If it's too tight loosen it". Be it jewelery or clothing etc.

A garment or accessory that has a negative energy flow effect in one person might be perfectly balancing on another person.

And there are some people who are totally disconnected and unaware that their garments and adornments are garroting major Chi flow channels here and there for years. And don't feel right if all the correct pinches and constrictions are not in place.

Namaste,
Michael

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posted at 12/6/2007 9:58 PM
ID# 98633
This is a reply to: 98629
Dear Firekeeper,
Did Dr.Usui give us proof of symbols he saw? What proof is there that Reiki is not a hoax or so good?
Peace,
Prosperity

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posted at 12/6/2007 11:28 PM
ID# 98634
This is a reply to: 98633
prosperity,

/*\ Namaste :-}}

- yes, you ask an appropriate question about 'proof'

- and of course, Usui Sensei is not here to speak for himself, is he - so it seems easy to pose questions of doubt, does it not??

>:-}}

- for myselff?? In a meditation I did as my Reiki Master did Reiki on me to demonstrrate to the class she was teaching, I experienced a whole stream of symbols - several were the Reiki symbols I had been taught - several were symbols I had never encountereed but my Teacher instructed me that they were Reiki symbols for the Master Level after I sketched several of them for her)

- so, I encountered symbols I was yet to be taught (and I doubt that I am the only person to whom this has occurred)

>:-}}

- it is said that the proof of the pudding is in the eating - so I suppose I managed a lovely spoonful - and before the puddng was ever made

bagl

- what that means??? Open to interpretation, no??

- as for Reiki being 'a hoax or so good', as you put it??

- in my view, it is neither

>:-}}

- for me?? the practitoner cannot say how another person will be able to use the energy - as such, practitioners must forget about outcomes - not to do so is ego attachment


Reiki All Around,

All Blessings,

Firekeeper

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posted at 12/7/2007 8:57 AM
ID# 98635
This is a reply to: 98634
Dear Firekeeper,
Sounds like you have plenty of "blind" faith in what your teacher instructs based on what facts? What proof do you have that the symbols you visualized are reiki symbols besides your teacher saying they are, and again how do you know that it's all good besides your cliche remarks about the proof is in the pudding.
There seems to be a narrow mindedness of so many reiki ones I have encountered as many have justified the fact that Madamne Takata "lied" alot to promote reiki, like it's ok to bald face lie and mislead for the person's greater good. I can see doing that if a person's life was in danger as far as life and death. Maybe for her pocketbook as her daughter was greedy to ask for $10,000 for RM level or was it $100,000? Either way this 'make it up as you go along" is something you seem to be projecting unto me that is your own stuff.
Peace,
Prosperity

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posted at 12/7/2007 10:16 AM
ID# 98637
This is a reply to: 98635
I was talking to a man that runs a gem shop about this. He has lived and studied in Africa & China different types of healing. I asked him if I could wear something for protection when giving reiki. He said I will sell you something if you want it. But I suggest that you don't wear any gems that collect bad energy. It will pull energy to you. It will not protect you. It should be placed away from you on a stand or someplace where it can work. Myself I wear my wedding ring and mother ring and a blue zircon engagement ring. Now I wonder as I have had bad energy collecting under my left arm. I have to clear it out a few times a week. It just seems to land and hang there. I took the zircon ring off for a few months but it still settles there. My guess it is what ever feels right for you.

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posted at 12/7/2007 10:20 AM
ID# 98638
This is a reply to: 98635
prosperity,

/*\ Namaste :-}}

- this venue was not created to bash Reiki or Reiki practitioners - so I for one would appreciate a little less rancor (it seems to me, at least, that there is some bitterness behind it??)

- having said that? It is a fact that Usui Sensei taught Reiki and that there were symbols associated with his 'system' - this says nothing about how he came to put those symbols into the system (what you believe is up to you - but your beliefs are not proofs just as my beliefs are not proofs) - nevertheless we all seem to need some sort of basis from which to press on)

>:-}}

- and many Teachers instruct these symbols - not just mine

- blind faith is not seeing or accepting other possibilities; seeing that most situations are not just all or none

- so, rightly or otherwise, I try to give myself at least a little credit for being flexible enough to entertain various approaches to the same problem

- if someone experiences a symbol in a meditation that is a fact to that person - if the symbol happens to match one taught in Reiki (or other system, whatver) that too is a fact (what one does with facts may certanly reflect the effects of what is termed 'faith' of belief or??)

- faith would begin by putting something, say a Reiki symbol???, into use - blind faith would be to continue rigidly and perhaps in the face of other facts - faith cannot destroy facts, afterall - only blind us to them

>:-}}

- as for proofs of efficacy?? Reiki has its value and in the hands of most of us its limitations

- and, I am not sure why you are hung up on this $10,000 bit - that is very old news and I doubt if there are more than a handful of people who pay anywhere near that much for Reiki Trainging (of course, if 100 people come forward and say they paid that much I will, naturally, stand corrected)

bagl

>:-}}

Reiki All Around,

All Blessings,

Firekeeper

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posted at 12/7/2007 11:30 AM
ID# 98640
This is a reply to: 98638
Dear Firekeeper,
I apologize for the bashing as you see it if you want to go into victim mode, that is your choice as this is your domain. The conversation went from you asking me to show proof that rings constrict energy (which is common sense that it would) and then telling me that I have blind trust in a friend, teachers and my own observations. You want proof from me but cannot offer proof to me.
You could be right about me being rigid about other ways however, this "make up as you go along" is something that may be your blind spot and I know this audience enough that I will comment no more as some get very angry as you may be their beloved master/teacher who doesn't like to be called on your own blind faith.
I can stop, rest, observe and then walk out of a (for me) dead-end street where as others for whatever reasons want to stay stuck in the comfort of it. I learned, rested enough for me to continue on my journey.
I now am starting to lean towards reiki being a hoax from the scared reactions I get when I express some scepticism.
Moderation is the key. Einstein said to always question especially authority. I can add without rancor or bitterness.
thanks for the wisdom shared,
Peace,
Prosperity

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posted at 12/7/2007 11:46 AM
ID# 98641
This is a reply to: 98640
I find it mildly amusing to see Peace or Reiki all around at the end of a post, whereas the beginning and middle are so full of venom, scarcely contained in a few words of political correctness. I find it slightly hypocritical.
lol

bagl

Of course I may be wrong. or no maybe about it.

Back on topic. I was told to take of my belt, any jewelry etc. I reasoned that it was as much for my own comfort as well as removing energy traps. What difference? wearing any clothes would then be an energy trap. Better to get a treatment naked?

Some do. Not my cup of tea at any event.

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posted at 12/7/2007 4:05 PM
ID# 98645
This is a reply to: 98641
jaguar,

/*\ Namaste :-}}

- venom is sometimes simply 'in the eye' of someone who feels bitten

>:-}}

- there are overly sensitive folks everywhere (which is not to say they ought not be accorded some consideration yet at the same time how when a door clsed loudly becomes a door slammed shut seems a bit open to personal interpretation and sensitivity)

>:-}}

- and, there are those who will say and even attest that sometimes healing may have a bit of an edge to it at the outset

>:-}}

Reiki All Around,

All Blessings,

Firekeeper

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posted at 12/8/2007 9:21 AM
ID# 98657
This is a reply to: 98634
Might i suggest a debate board, for incidents like the one above. When the subject at hand becomes a debate off the subject. For example, this energy blockage discussion went from that to you and prosperity debating about weather reiki is. And this seems to happen alot. just a suggestion. (not just you and prosperity) I just thought it would be a good idea to move the debates to another board so that when asking advice the advice doesnt get lost in weather or not people agree with others.

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posted at 12/8/2007 11:05 AM
ID# 98658
This is a reply to: 98657
harmony,

/*\ Namaste :-}}

- with respect to The Cafe, I am not sure what important distinction there might be between discussion and debate (unless one is referring to formal debates that follow certan rules)

>:-}}

- yes, sometimes threads tend to wander off the original subject a bit but that seems true whether at a discussion board or face to face and I for one have no interest in policing this not to mention no time to do so

>:-}}

- I personally do not think we need any more boards here - though I have observed that sometimes folks will start a thread at the Reiki Boards that might have been better placed at one of the other Boards - sometimes these will be moved (especially if they are ads, etc) sometimes they are left in place (such as healing requests or bringing up non-Reiki subjects)

- and, new threads may be started at any time, afterall

- and, the fact that sometimes few others will enter into a discussion is perhaps everyone's loss

>:-}}

Reiki All Around,

All Blessings,

Firekeeper

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posted at 12/9/2007 11:22 AM
ID# 98665
This is a reply to: 98658
Hello Firekeeper,

I hope this finds u in good spirits!!! Sorry if i offended you. how do you go about making a board? Any way i hope you have a great holiday!!!! I would also like to take this time to give my thanks for all of your knowledge and opions, and policing. I know I am a pain sometimes. Just differnt i guess.

harmony

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posted at 12/9/2007 11:38 AM
ID# 98666
This is a reply to: 98640
" I now am starting to lean towards reiki being a hoax from the scared reactions I get when I express some scepticism."

I don't think it's scepticism that's throwing people off, prosperity....I think it's the anger felt behind so many of your words. But that is just me.....

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posted at 12/9/2007 11:40 AM
ID# 98667
This is a reply to: 98645
" and, there are those who will say and even attest that sometimes healing may have a bit of an edge to it at the outset"......well said.....thank you.