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posted at 2/19/2008 11:25 AM |
ID# 99473
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Hi all,
Namaste :)
I have been thinking about the intention of the recipient to receive Reiki and the implications of that regarding distant Reiki.
For instance if we send Reiki distantly to someone with their permission it would hopefully be their intention to receive Reiki. However I wonder what happens when practitioner and recipient do not co-ordinate specific times. The practioner intends to send Reiki and does so; what happens to the Reiki until the recipient consciously chooses/intends to receive it? Or is it the case that the recipient has already stated their intention to receive by giving their permission? I just have visions of a kind of Reiki bank account way out there in the ethers with recipients details on it just waiting to be withdrawn :))
Any thoughts?
Gentle Blessings
Helen
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posted at 2/19/2008 11:46 AM |
ID# 99476 This is a reply to: 99473
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Hello Helen,
In my experience when we send energy the person receives it. Generally speaking, unless the person receiving is pretty adept at energy sensitivity or practices, I don't think that it matters whether they have asked for it or if we have been given permission. I also don't think that adding caveats makes any difference. We send, they receive.
Now, if you intend that it be 'bundled' for future pick up then yes I think that there is a cosmic mailbox that holds it for their convenience. I've sent energy and have felt it wasn't being received even though the person has asked for it. When this happens I 'bundle' it and let them know that it is there when they want to pick it up. Those have been rare occasions and only with those who were very aware of energy.
Walk in beauty,
Rebecca
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posted at 2/19/2008 12:23 PM |
ID# 99479 This is a reply to: 99473
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helen,
/*\ Namaste :-}}
- I trust all is well with you and yours
- yes, permission matters, always
- as I do not send where permission is not granted I have no way of knowing how it would be received in such a case - and I am not sure how any one can say that energy is received by someone who has not given permission unless the sender later says, oh, by the way...........
>:-{{
- however, I do know how the energy may be misinterpretted if it is sent to folks with severe psychiatric disorders who are really not able to give proper permission for themselves
- too, one view is that once a recipient has given permission the 'receptors' for the ULE, to use neurological\neurochemical terminology, are primed and ready for the energy
>:-}}
- the same view might agree that the closer the coordination of sending and receiving there can be, the more easily a recipient may be Mindful of the 'transmission' and be able to activily bend Intention to the utilization of the energy
>:-}}
- but, I also 'hear' in the Posts and Emails of recipients that many are able to use the energy to their advantage even if they do not know exactly when it will be sent
- I would say any unreceived ULE will simply merge back into the 'ethers' to be utilized another time
- hope this helps
Reiki All Around,
All Blessings,
Firekeeper
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posted at 2/19/2008 8:01 PM |
ID# 99482 This is a reply to: 99473
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Otoharo!
Helen, I can only share my experience. I pay the fee first. It is not necessary for the reiki to be given and received at the same clock time. Time is not real.
finality
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posted at 2/19/2008 9:55 PM |
ID# 99483 This is a reply to: 99482
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finality,
Hi,
You stated categorically that 'time is not real'.
How does that work? I mean, how do you manage to be anywhere on time? But perhaps you are punctuality challenged. Irregardless, if time is not real, how can anything else be real?
:)
Cheers (it seems we are flirting with notions of illusion)
RC
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posted at 2/20/2008 5:02 AM |
ID# 99484 This is a reply to: 99476
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Hi Rebecca,
Namaste :)
Thanks for your reply. You said ' I don't think that it matters whether they have asked for it or if we have been given permission. I also don't think that adding caveats makes any difference. We send, they receive.'
I think that's why the issue of getting permission is so important. To send without permission, knowing that they are going to receive it irrespective of adding higher self clauses etc. feels way too intrusive for me personally.
I like the idea of the cosmic mailbox :)
Gentle Blessings
Helen
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posted at 2/20/2008 5:14 AM |
ID# 99485 This is a reply to: 99479
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Firekeeper,
Namaste and thanks for your reply :)
>- yes, permission matters, always
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>- as I do not send where permission is not granted I have no way of knowing how it would be received in such a case - and I am not sure how any one can say that energy is received by someone who has not given permission unless the sender later says, oh, by the way...........
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I completely agree :)
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>- I would say any unreceived ULE will simply merge back into the 'ethers' to be utilized another time
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This does all seem to make sense according to some experiences that I have had in the past with distant Reiki :)
Gentle Blessings
Helen
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posted at 2/20/2008 5:19 AM |
ID# 99486 This is a reply to: 99482
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Finality,
Namaste :)
Thanks for your reply. 'Time is not real' I have heard that expression before and also 'all time is now', when we were being taught to use the distant Reiki symbol. I sort of get it except when it comes to applying it to my daily life and routine when time seems all too real and of short supply :))
Gentle Blessings
Helen
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posted at 2/20/2008 9:39 AM |
ID# 99487 This is a reply to: 99483
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Otoharo!
RC,I think you love to badger me! Time is always relative. We on earth mark time by the passage of the sun. When we learned more about the earth and sun, we devised days, and years, then divided days into hours, etc. We devised time in order to get somewhere at a certain time, yes. but time does not rule energy. Reiki is not limited to time.
finality
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posted at 2/20/2008 10:40 AM |
ID# 99488 This is a reply to: 99487
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finality,
Hi,
I am sorry you feel my questioning of unsupported statements such as "time is not real' is badgering. However, what you have just said suggests time is real as it cannot be separated from space. One way to think of time is the inexorable progression of finite but infinitely brief moments. Most organisms are incapable of experiencing "a moment" as the smallest unit of time.
You also say: "We devised time in order to get somewhere at a certain time, yes. but time does not rule energy." Humans did not devise time (though we did devise mechanisms to allow us to have a unified way to atrifically organize and 'measure' the progression of moments :)
I would also say that other living things are aware of time in their own ways. Internal clocks let them know it is time to fatten up for the winter (though I am fairly certain that bears do not call the onset of cold "winter").
"Time does not rule Reiki? Well, even if Reiki merely requires two incredibly brief moments to pass from one point in space to another then it must 'contend with' space\time. Does this mean time rules Reiki? Eh. But, I would disagree that Reiki is not limited to time. We cannot say time affects some processes and not others any more than we can say some things occupy space and others do not (perhaps excepting some quantum particles which have never been directly observed).
Cheers (perhaps you will allow me to otter you?)
RC
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posted at 2/21/2008 12:55 PM |
ID# 99495 This is a reply to: 99488
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Otoharo!
What I mean by "real" is something not of this world we occupy which is actual. Time is not real in that it is only now. Now is all we have. I will have to reread what you say several times to be able to comprehend just what you are saying.
finality
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posted at 2/21/2008 6:49 PM |
ID# 99498 This is a reply to: 99488
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RC:
You always make me laugh
keep up the good work
Barbara
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posted at 2/21/2008 7:38 PM |
ID# 99500 This is a reply to: 99488
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Otoharo!
Been laughing all day from time to time.
We call real, that which is not a part of physicality. The world of spirit is real. etc. Physicality is actual at least in our vocabulary.
When Xaris referred to an event other than now, she would say it as in another now.
I can't grasp that it is an awareness of time that nature reacts or responds to. It feels more as if things like temperature would trigger them. not the passage of time.
I remember when my siblings and I were hoeing in the field, our father taught us how to tell time simply by associating the position of the sun (in our Texas location). When at a certain position we went to the house, me to cook and the others to do the barn duties. So in this case it was the position of the sun that triggered the next event.
I eat when I am hungry, not when the clock says to eat. I am wondering whether those who designed the bear body so designed it to tell it when to store up food for the long sleep. ETc.
Oh, well, and so it is this day.
finality
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posted at 2/22/2008 9:21 AM |
ID# 99503 This is a reply to: 99473
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Even after I have permission to send Reiki to a distant recipient, I always feel weird about just sending it for immediate receipt. I'm sending at a time when it is convenient for me, but what if the time I send is not convenient for them to receive?
The Distance symbol is wonderful in that it enables me to specify a time or constraint, as well as location/recipient. Kind of like what Rebecca (Diosa) said, there's probably some sort of cosmic mailbox that stores it until the receipient is ready to pick it up.
I dont know how or when, I've never given my recipients instructions on how to receive when I send distantly. But they've told me they've received it, enjoyed it, it all worked out for them. So I figure I must be doing something right! ;)
- Taqai
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posted at 2/22/2008 1:31 PM |
ID# 99506 This is a reply to: 99503
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Sounds like you're doing a wonderfully lot right, Taqai! Way to Go, Cookie!
I might as well jump right in there, huh.....since everything is made of energy....and nothing is ever lost....why can't there be a matrix....interconnecting web of energy strands or vehicles or wormholes or whatever you desire to call them....so, as finality suggested....it doesn't matter about time nor space.....just intent. I certainly hope I don't regret this.....love you all.
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posted at 2/22/2008 3:39 PM |
ID# 99514 This is a reply to: 99495
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finality,
Hi,
What is now? How do we measure it? 'Now' becomes 'then' before we can blink an eye just as 'now' was the 'future' but a mere moment before. 'Now" is, essentially, an illusion. Unlike Bears, I do not necessarily eat when I register hunger (if I did I would definitely be wardrobe challenged). LOL Sometimes I must wait till a specific time (breakfast, lunch, or dinner dates, you know) :)
Cheers (there is nothing heroic in leaving things until the 11th hour, whenever that is),
RC
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posted at 2/22/2008 7:14 PM |
ID# 99523 This is a reply to: 99506
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Ponderings,
You may enjoy reading The Field by Lynne McTaggart. A kind of Quantum Physics for Dummies.
Adrienne
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posted at 2/23/2008 9:56 AM |
ID# 99525 This is a reply to: 99523
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Ouch, thanks, Adrienne! I have read quite a bit on Quantum Physics....can't say that I understand most of it....but with all that we're finding out we don't know or understand...I still love the idea of infinite possibilities....
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posted at 2/23/2008 10:18 AM |
ID# 99527 This is a reply to: 99525
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Did not mean to imply ignorance or stupidity on your part. Only to say the book is written for the layperson to understand.
I think you're one smart lady!
blackearth
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posted at 3/6/2008 10:03 AM |
ID# 99688 This is a reply to: 99506
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ponderings,
/*\ Namaste :-}}
- our physical being exists in space-time
- since intention appears to be at least partly linked to our physical brains, then intention would also seem to be o inextricably linked to space-time
- of course, if Samsara is only 'illusion', then perhaps the issue resolves itself
bagl
Reiki All Around,
All Blessings,
Firekeeper
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