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I have been asked to send this woman some Reiki that has 3 seizures a night. Anyone have any special techniques for this.

healinghands,

/*\ Namaste :-}}

- for myself?? Before doing any energy work I would first inquire if she is receiving the proper seizure control meds

- three seizures a night is a lot

- also find out if these are grande mal or petit mal seizures

Reiki All Around,

All Blessings,

Firekeeper

Yes, she is on the proper meds....That is why she is seeking out help ...CONFUSED YET??

She wants to have children and with the meds she is on...That could most definately cause deformitites in a fetus. Three seizures a night is an alarming amount.

I have never worked on someone with this severity of epilepsy. Any specific areas to work on or ideas for me.

I think balancing chakras is first and foremost. I also want to work on her crown and neck.

I am just looking for input here.

Blessings
Healing Hands

healinghands,

/*\ Namaste :-}}

- by the way, did this woman ask you herself for the Reiki work? If not, did she give permission to whomever asked you?

- what I know of modern anti-seizure meds (I am no expert) is that except for the most intractible seizures (which sometimes end up with surgery to relieve them) is they work pretty well to control seizures - a person may have a few a year but.......

- three per night makes me suspicious -

- it is a known fact that people stop taking their meds if the medications interfere with other important activities and desires - sex and procreation being two biggies

- a huge number of people go off of or cut back on their BP meds and some anti-depressants because of the 'sexual side effects'

- if she wants children badly enough, (how old is she?) it might be possible she may be trying to cut down on meds without telling anyone

- was she born with epilepsy or developed it due to an illness, trauma or tumor?

- are these grand mal or petit mal seizures?

- again, for myself?? I would not do energy work with her until I knew more of what I inquire about

Reiki All Around,

All Blessings,

Firekeeper

Yes I have permission....I am not a "no-mind" in the practise and ethics of Reiki. I am a Reiki Master and am well aware of having permission.

Some people get too "hung up" for lack of a better term on the permission. I believe if you put the Reiki out there it will never do harm. That is not the intent of Reiki. If the recipient does not want to recieve it then it will just go to where it is needed call it Mother Earth, or whatever you want.

She has Epilepsy and is on medication and very much takes it on a regular basis. She has less seizures a night now than she did before and that toned down to three. I wish she could have a way not to take any meds at all and have an alternate way to help herself, the latter is not working exclusively to date. I am not an avocate for medicine in any shape or form. I do not express that to my clients though as it is their ultimate decision.

I am not looking for the Reiki to cure her. If it did that would definately be a miracle. I just would like to help her alleviate her symptoms.

Healing Hands

healinghands said on

>Some people get too "hung up" for lack of a better term on the permission. I believe if you put the Reiki out there it will never do harm. That is not the intent of Reiki. If the recipient does not want to recieve it then it will just go to where it is needed call it Mother Earth, or whatever you want.
ling Hands

Why do you believe that?

(BTW, FK twice asked whether the seizures are grand mal or petit mal. Do you know which type they are?)

Bruce

Hi Healinghands,

Namaste :)

You said "I believe if you put the Reiki out there it will never do harm. That is not the intent of Reiki. If the recipient does not want to recieve it then it will just go to where it is needed call it Mother Earth, or whatever you want."

With the greatest respect, how do you 'know' that to be true? Many many moons ago people 'believed' the world was flat because they had been told that it was flat. We now know that it is round through discovery and experience. Unfortunately just because we believe something to be true does not necessarily make it true.

There have been many times here and on other forums where it has been discussed if there are occasions where Reiki may well cause harm (based on people's experience of working with and using Reiki). One of those occasions is mental illness where Reiki might cause untold problems for an already disturbed perception. The intent does not belong to the energy,Reiki has no intent, it just 'is'. The intent belongs to the practitioner and the recipient. As such each practitioner has a duty to use the energy wisely, responsibly and respectfully. Equally each recipient has the right to consciously and actively know and choose whether they want the energy or not. If they don't know they are even getting it because they haven't been asked then how can they possibly 'intend' to use the energy for healing? Compassionate action is not always about sending Reiki. Sometimes it is more compassionate(and more difficult) not to.

Gentle Blessings
Helen

healinghands,

/*\ Namaste :-}}

- in any situation where it is not clear to me that permssion has been given I ask - so, no offense meant

- it amazes me how many practitioners, yes Reiki Masters as well, believe that permission is unnecessary

- it is necessary if for no other reason than unexpected energy, in some cases, may precipitate harm - even when Reiki practices are involved

- for example, there are significant differences between grande mal seizures and petit mal seizures and one's approach needs to reflect the nature of the case

- permission also means that the recipient will (hopefully) have a bit of mindful intention to apply to the energy - since the energy has no intention of its own

- as to meds?? where they are the only effective treatment (not necessarily cure) then I feel it would be foolish not to use them (especially where one's life or that of someone else is at stake) - doing energy work is, of course, encouraged as well

- again, in certain cases a person who goes off their meds may become a danger to themselves or others!!

- as to the energy issue for the woman about whom you inquire? I might try focusing energy at Tanden for a while and suggest to the woman that she apply a bit of focus herself to use the energy to reduce her stresses and balance out her difficult neural activity

>:-}}

Reiki All Around,

All Blessings,

Firekeeper

The seizures are petit mal.

As far as my taking meds go that is anyones personal choice to take or not. Personally for myself only I chose not to take any kind of synthetic drug that man has created to "help" people. Does it help people? Check it out for yourself and form your own opinion.

As for energy going to where it is needed and why do I believe that. Well even though the world was believed to be flat until it was proven to be round. A belief is just a belief until something comes along in life to make you challenge those beliefs and then helps you to form new opinions on the subject. If we all believed in the exact same things, "What a boring existence that would be."

I do not claim to be a "Healer" through my Reiki practises. Nor do I ever tell anyone that that is what Reiki does. Reiki to me any many other Practitioners I know feel that, "Reiki is a Japanese form of stress reduction and relaxation that can facilitate healing."

Blessings
Healing Hands

Otoharo

Otoharo!

Reiki is not a Japanese healing energy. Reiki is the energy of spirit being held here for us evolving humans and was given to Usui. Not to the Japanese people.

finality

Sounds like a few of you could benefit from some personal meditation on why you practise and what the practise means to you.

Otoharo!

Are you being personal?

finality

healinghands said on

>I have been asked to send this woman some Reiki that has 3 seizures a night. Anyone have any special techniques for this.

This was the only question I asked here.

I am not being personal. By reading all of the threads in this post you will note that we all have different opinions. I just think that from time to time in our practises we need to reflect on what this journey means to us as individual practitioners.

To some they feel warmth, some cold, some feel tingling, etc. Whatever, however and with whomever is not what matters. What matters most is that it works and you can benefit others.

To healthy practises,
Cheers!

Healinghands,

Namaste :)

You said "Sounds like a few of you could benefit from some personal meditation on why you practise and what the practise means to you."

I'm going to try to respond to this statement rather than react to it.

You also said "I am not being personal. By reading all of the threads in this post you will note that we all have different opinions. I just think that from time to time in our practises we need to reflect on what this journey means to us as individual practitioners."

I agree that reflection and growth are important for each one of us here and it is by reading and respecting other people's viewpoints without getting personal or defensive that we do learn and grow. My viewpoint of Reiki is so different now to when I began a few years ago and it continues to grow and evolve. Many times someone has challenged something I thought to be true and I am grateful to each of them because if they hadn't I wouldn't have evolved with Reiki at all.

I also agree that it would be boring if we all had exactly the same beliefs, however I think it is very important to distinguish between what our personal beliefs are and actual facts when we teach Reiki and pass it on to others. Sweeping statements like 'Reiki can do no harm' are not based on fact, they are based on belief and that should be made very clear when teaching. Prepared with simply the facts students can then begin their own journey of discovery with Reiki and establish their own beliefs over time according to their own experiences.

Gentle Blessings
Helen

healinghands said: To some they feel warmth, some cold, some feel tingling, etc. Whatever, however and with whomever is not what matters. What matters most is that it works and you can benefit others.

Thank-you for saying that! I feel the same! Not everyone will always agree, But that just makes life more interesting.
Bless you

healinghands,

Hi,

When a question is posed around here one must be prepared for all sorts of responses; not simply ones one hopes to hear. And, some people find additional information useful and necessary before acting for others they have not and are likely never to meet (and of whose condition they may know little). I do not find those sorts of inquires a personal affront though some do, I suppose. The kitchen is a great place to swap "recipes" but sometimes there can be a bit of heat in that space; goes with the territory it seems.

:)

As to the epilepsy question? Potentially tricky business. But, if I were to get involved, I might work at one of the general energy portals thus allowing the recipient the opportunity to integrate the energy more gradually, perhaps. I would not do energy directly to the head since I have no idea how the malfunctioning circuitry might respond to a sudden, direct influx of energy.

Cheers,

RC

Cheers,

RC

rainbow said on

I think it is very important to distinguish between what our personal beliefs are and actual facts when we teach Reiki and pass it on to others. Sweeping statements like 'Reiki can do no harm' are not based on fact, they are based on belief and that should be made very clear when teaching. Prepared with simply the facts students can then begin their own journey of discovery with Reiki and establish their own beliefs over time according to their own experiences.
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>Gentle Blessings
>Helen

Helen,

The greatest thing that I am thankful for in my RM was that she did exactly that. It left me without a basket full of things to unlearn. At the time and with what everyone else was being taught as part of their class I felt a little cheated but over time I have come to more and more appreciated how and what I was taught.

Walk in beauty
Rebecca

healinghands said on

>As for energy going to where it is needed and why do I believe that. Well even though the world was believed to be flat until it was proven to be round. A belief is just a belief until something comes along in life to make you challenge those beliefs and then helps you to form new opinions on the subject. If we all believed in the exact same things, "What a boring existence that would be."

That doesn't explain the statement you made earlier, which was "I believe if you put the Reiki out there it will never do harm. That is not the intent of Reiki. If the recipient does not want to recieve it then it will just go to where it is needed call it Mother Earth, or whatever you want."

For what sort of condition were you sending reiki, and how did you know that it went to the earth rather than to the intended recipient? Did all of it go to the earth, or did any of it reach the recipient? In other words, what is the experiential basis for your belief? Or is it merely dogma that somebody once told somebody who told somebody else . . . ?

Bruce

Namaste to all of you who walk through this Reiki path,

Well first of all I took my own advice and meditated last night. I remembered why and what I am doing on my personal journey.

I appreciate all of your opinions here in this site as we all learn things in conversation be them huge or small.

I have never experienced any Reiki to do harm nor have I ever been told that it can. Okay so with that in mind, I have never had any adverse reaction to giving or sending anyone Reiki. Too much in a general area sure I can see where that may cause certain things but as for harm I haven't had any experience with that.

posylady: Thank-you I needed a word like that ...Bless you!

rc: I appreciated your comment on not working directly on the head I definately agree. As for the putting out a question and getting a multitude of thoughts. Ya no kidding...Thank-you!

bruce: I believe what I believe because life experiences have brought me to this point. Until something comes along to help integrate my thoughts to something else...My beliefs stand true. It is just my opinion as you and everyone has one too. I am not trying to prove yours wrong and vise versa. That is what creates healthy verbalization

Rebecca,

Namaste :)

In my opinion The best teachers in any capacity are those that do not 'teach' but who facilitate learning :)

Gentle Blessings
Helen

healinghands said on

>I have never experienced any Reiki to do harm nor have I ever been told that it can. Okay so with that in mind, I have never had any adverse reaction to giving or sending anyone Reiki. Too much in a general area sure I can see where that may cause certain things but as for harm I haven't had any experience with that.

Experiences of reiki and harm have been mentioned in a number of reiki discussion board threads. E.g., on this board someone who'd insisted that reiki never causes harm -- after all, that's what her teacher said, and how dare any of us disagree -- backpedaled after flareups of her own autoimmune condition were severely exacerbated by self-reiki and reiki treatment by her husband. Another example -- on another board, someone mentioned her sleep being wrecked by someone else sending reiki to her every hour over an extended period of months. In light of such experiences being shared, do you see why your saying some people are "hung up . . . on the permission" can be seen improperly dismissive?

BTW, in addition to the issue of possible harm, there's the issue of autonomy. If I don't want someone sending reiki to me, that person shouldn't send reiki to me. Period.

>bruce: I believe what I believe because life experiences have brought me to this point.

Again -- what particular life experiences have brought you to the point of believing that reiki goes to the earth if the intended recipient doesn't want it? E.g., have you seen it go to the earth? If so, what have you seen the earth do with it? If not, then -- again -- why do you believe it goes to the earth?

Bruce

Bruce,

My personal life experiences are just that and I am sorry if you need more of an explanation.

I believe what I believe and your opinion hasn't changed me to believe anything different. Nor, do I want to change your opinion. They are yours due to your own values and beliefs and I am not saying they are wrong on any level.

BTW.....I would never send you or anyone any Reiki without permission. I will have to think on how to send Reiki "with permission" for peace and universal calming, to plants and animals with no voice to verbally accept it.

Namaste,
Healing Hands

"Sounds like a few of you could benefit from some personal meditation on why you practise and what the practise means to you."
low blow, healinghands

After reading everything else....I think you've handled yourself very nicely....this is part of the reason why some of us.....just listen.....don't speak.....and also, why some of us have been driven away.....you've been strong and true to what you believe....more power to you, dear....

All she asked for was a technique. I think she was looking for suggestions and maybe a answer to her question. Instead again down another road we go!