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posylady said on

>All she asked for was a technique. I think she was looking for suggestions and maybe a answer to her question. Instead again down another road we go!

To keep things in perspective: she asked for a technique, and didn't answer questions (grand mal or petit mal?) that were addressed to the condition about which she asked. She also threw out the snippy statements "Some people get too 'hung up' for lack of a better term on the permission" and "sounds like a few of you could benefit from some personal meditation on why you practise and what the practise means to you," which unsurprisingly touched off some reactions. And she made ipse dixit assertions about reiki going to the earth if it's not wanted. And when asked for explanation about that -- I'd really like to know why anyone believes that, whether there's any experiential base for the assertion -- said only she believes it because she believes it. It's not as if she was abused for asking for a technique.

Bruce

ponderings and posylady....

I thank you both deeply from the bottom of my heart as some of the postings here have left a sting. I think after reading your post tonight on how I handled myself. I am in great appreciation of you both. Thank-you so much.

The God In Me Definately Appreciates The God In You.
Healing Hands

Hi Posylady,

Namaste :)

I thought the whole point of a discussion board is to promote discussion, not just to answer questions. As in this case, sometimes an initial post brings up other issues. It seems to me that it's being said or implied by a few that other's are not allowed to voice their opinion or open up an intelligent discussion, where we all might learn something or examine our take on things in case someone takes offense. And just for the record I don't think healing hands is the only one here that has been 'stung' by some of the comments in this thread either!

Gentle Blessings
Helen

Healing Hands,

Namaste,

I apologise if any of my posts offended you, my intention was not to challenge your beliefs, merely to promote an open discussion where we all might have had a chance to examine and think about why we believe in the things we do. Obviously it didn't come across that way to you. It seems sad to me that on a discussion board we have to pick and choose who we can have an honest, polite and good natured discussion with, for fear of saying the wrong thing or upsetting people.

As such I have tried to respond to your posts politely rather than react to them, even though I found one of your posts blatantly rude which also left a 'sting' with me! But at the end of the day we're each responsible for our own reactions.

Gentle Blessings
Helen

healinghands,

Hi,

Giving a bit of consideration to, and being mindful of, the things we do is almost always an excellent idea. And, naturally, if you have ways of communicating with plants and animals that they will understand, by all means use them to obtain permission. In many ways they deserve no less respect than people.

:)

Cheers,

RC

bruce said on

>posylady said on
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>>All she asked for was a technique. I think she was looking for suggestions and maybe a answer to her question. Instead again down another road we go!
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>To keep things in perspective: she asked for a technique, and didn't answer questions (grand mal or petit mal?) that were addressed to the condition about which she asked. She also threw out the snippy statements "Some people get too 'hung up' for lack of a better term on the permission" and "sounds like a few of you could benefit from some personal meditation on why you practise and what the practise means to you," which unsurprisingly touched off some reactions. And she made ipse dixit assertions about reiki going to the earth if it's not wanted. And when asked for explanation about that -- I'd really like to know why anyone believes that, whether there's any experiential base for the assertion -- said only she believes it because she believes it. It's not as if she was abused for asking for a technique.
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>Bruce

Bruce

I am not sure as to why you want to respond as you are.

I don't think throwing things out like she made snippy statements can go unresponded to.

I said I believe what I believe because....life experience has brought me to this point.

Personal meditation on why you practise.... That wasn't with unkind intent. From time to time we all need to reflect to clear our minds.

I would never try to delibertatly change anothers thoughts without valid information to bring things to a new discussion.

I am not an unkind person at all and if you would give that a chance you may see it.

Namaste
Healing Hands

Rainbow how was I blantanly rude to you?

I would like to address that.

Healing Hands

Healing Hands,

Namaste :)

I didn't say you were blatantly rude to me. I said that I found one of your posts blatantly rude. I have no idea whether your words were aimed at me or others here.

You said "Sounds like a few of you could benefit from some personal meditation on why you practise and what the practise means to you."

The problem with just the written word is that there is no accompanying body language to 'soften' the words and I suspect that I am not the only one here(rightly or wrongly) who found these particular words a bit cutting. But like I said before we are all responsible for our own reactions and I apologise if I misread the intention behind your words.

Gentle Blessings
Helen

All I meant rainbow and to anyone else in cyberland..LOL

Is that sometimes we need to take the time to stop ourselves and take the time to meditate on what our journey means to us as practitioners in Reiki. There was no harm meant or underlying meaning. I am sorry if anyone out there took it as a negative connotation.

RC: I think that giving Reiki as you said to other things was helpful and I will be mindful to that.

Many Blessings
Healing Hands:)

Healing Hands,

Namaste :)

Thanks for clarifying what you meant, I appreciate it :)

Gentle Blessings
Helen

Otoharo!

My dear, when a person uses the pronoun you, that person is being personal. And the gist of what you said showed that you had opinions about what all of us were saying on this thread. I seem to the the last one to take time to comment on this.

finality

Healinghands,enjoyed all your comments I feel they are true to the spirit of reiki you do things out of love for your fellow human beings you have a good spirit.
Like the way you write you keep it a level that is very understandable, bless you brother may you walk in light forever.
Namaste Fred

Lol...I'm not a Brother I am a Sister.

Thank-you just the same. I like to keep Reiki real and I just speak from my heart. Nice to hear from someone that seems to understand me and what I stand for. Thanks again.

Blessings to you:o)
Healing Hands

Healinghands,my apology, sister yes, you are kind to bring me back into the light thankyou.
Blessings Fred

healinghands said on

> I am not sure as to why you want to respond as you are.

Uh, because it reflects my experience of your statements, in the context of my belief which is formed from my life experiences?

>I don't think throwing things out like she made snippy statements can go unresponded to.

Okay. Just as I didn't think throwing out things like "sounds like a few of you could benefit from some personal meditation on why you practise and what the practise means to you" should have gone unresponded to.

>I said I believe what I believe because....life experience has brought me to this point.
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Functionally, that's saying you believe it because you believe it.

>Personal meditation on why you practise.... That wasn't with unkind intent. From time to time we all need to reflect to clear our minds.

But that wasn't what you said initially. Instead, your statement was "sounds like a few of you could benefit from some personal meditation on why you practise and what the practise means to you[.]" If your initial statement had been "From time to time we all need to reflect to clear our minds," I doubt that anyone would have had any objection to that. (Do you see the difference between "a few of you could benefit" and "we all need to?")

I'll step back and keep in mind the possibility that you didn't have unkind intent behind your statement. But I also hope you can see that at least a few people on this thread interpreted it as having been delivered with unkind intent.

> I would never try to delibertatly change anothers thoughts without valid information to bring things to a new discussion.
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I'm unsure of what to make of that assertion, given your earlier assertion about permission and some people being "hung up" on it, reiki going to the earth if unwanted, and your subsequent refusal to explain any specific experiential basis for your belief. To me, it looks as if that was an attempt to change others' thoughts without any information. But it looks as if we've reached an impasse on that.

>I am not an unkind person at all and if you would give that a chance you may see it.
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I could say the same about people who responded to your inquiry, yet you mentioned feeling some "sting" from their responses.

Perhaps we've somehow inadvertently spoken at cross-purposes. I hope we can be clearer in the future. I'll start over with a presumption that you're not unkind.

Thanks for your having responded, and take care.

Bruce

I myself also suffer from a form of Epilepsy, in my case I find that The Mental/Emotional Symbol to balance the Brain Hemispheres helps, On a more spiritual Level, work on the solar plexus chakra and the Tan-Dien has helped me a lot.
the tricky thing with Epilepsy is that aside from its neurological nature I have found that there can be an array of mental/emotional and spiritual( energetic) causes
so when I have someone who suffers from a neurological illness such as epilepsy I give special attention to the already mentioned areas( head, solar plexus and Tan-Dien) However there is a lot to say about doing a Full body treatment, it can cover areas and aspects of the healing that either the Healer or patient is not YET aware of. Aside from that I suggest ( if the client is physically present) to use the Scanning technique( I am not sure but I believe its call Byosen in Japanese) to find areas that need more attention.

A wonderful thing about people coming together like it happens here is that we have an opportunity to share and Learn from/about each other. Sometimes we get so exited or passionate about our beliefs that discussions can get heated or a bit out of hand, however that is part of human nature, people debate and share their passions with one another frequently . The key is not to take things too personally or be too puposefuly aggressive or insulting to one another the best thing, in my opinion, is to always remember the spirit and meaning that we have in common and had brought everyone here together , and to be willing to share and learn.

Anyway enough of my Rants

Love and Healing

ReikiDragon.

Finally an answer! Thank-you I have been reading this tread waiting for someone to answer and it got off track. I was curious how different people treated Epilepsy. Now at least I have a answer. I also think hands on is the best, but not always possible.
Thank-you
Namaste

Hi There,
Well, it seems the more things change, the more they stay the same :) I have not been to this site for some time but found myself wanting to come back.

As for treating seizures, I work with a 4th grade girl that suffers from epilepsy. Before working on your client you may want to ask if anything has changed in her environment to trigger the seizures or ask her for what her current triggers are. This may give you some insight. I have found, that with my little girl, grounding works well rather than diving into treating. Go slowly with your energy work and be fully mindful of when you need to pull the energy back. Seizures are related to electrical conduction and reiki is energy. Everyone's seizures are not the same so take care. I'll be happy to chat more via e-mail if you'd like. I wish you all the best results :)

Peace,
Tracey

Otoharo!

Tracey, so good to see you back!

finality

"The key is not to take things too personally or be too puposefuly aggressive or insulting to one another the best thing, in my opinion, is to always remember the spirit and meaning that we have in common and had brought everyone here together , and to be willing to share and learn."

and to realize when we're mirroring......

great point!! Its always good to keep in mind from time to time that every interaction with another can be a learning experience.