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i was guided to reiki by spirit.learning it and practicing everyday used to give me great comfort.
i did reiki on a friend after i had my attunements and she became very sick.i was told to look at what type of energy i was bringing thru.before the session i asked for guidance and for a circle of white light..i asked to be a clear channel and was so happy to be able to share this with my friend.
needless to say,it has really affected me.
i dont and would never intentionally hurt or harm anyone.
i havent given reiki to myself in over a month because i am nervous as to what im channeling thru me.
i love reiki...i feel like im wilting without it.
any advice is appreciated.

hummingbirdgirl

/*\ Namaste :-}}

- I assume that the Reiki was hands on and that your friend gave permission?

- do you recall any of your thoughts during the time you were doing Reiki with the friend?

- thoughts can be very powerful clues about our intentions and during Reiki the only intention we really want is to bring the energy to the recipient

- it is then up to the recipient to use the energy for his\her well-Being

- any other intentions we include in Reiki can involve our personal energy

- it is not Reiki to add personal energy and personal which may have unexpected consequences

- this is not to say that Reiki even done very 'cleanly', so to speak, may not stir up things in the recipient - but that is almost always an issue of the recipient - not the practitioner

- keep your intention simple and be mindful of what you do

- hope this helps

Reiki All Around,

All Blessings,

Firekeeper

hummingbird_girl
I was taught and truly believe that as practitioners we cannot influence the energy of Reiki. We merely act as a conduit. I believe that what happened to your friend was what was appropriate for her at that time. I have friends that have given Reiki to someone and within a short period of time (sometimes hours) that person has passed over. At no stage did my friends ever consider that they were responsible for the recipients death. I don't believe that our thoughts can interfere with the Reiki treatment being given. This is of course my belief and others will have different beliefs depending on how they were taught and possible experiences. In my 13 years of practising Reiki I have never seen or experienced or been told that someone has been harmed by the practitioner that was giving them Reiki. Any perceived adverse effect was merely what was the next step in that persons journey. In conversations I've had with dozens of other Reiki Masters none has ever expressed that it was possible to harm someone.
Good Luck,
Love and Light,
Michael

Michael,

/*\ Namaste :-}}

- yes, I do disagree

- practitioners may intrude their own intentions and energy into a Reiki session

- does this happen often? I have no idea as most people don't talk about it or may not even know when it occurs

- however, I know from personal experience that it may occur and, over the years, have heard some similar reports from other experienced energy workers

- in particular, if ULE is is sent to someone who is not expecting it or to someone suffering one of the significant psychiatric disorders (and may not be competent to give their permission for Reiki or other standard therapies), the energy may be misinterprettted and may exacerbate an existing condition

- that would be harm

- and would be the responsibility of the practitioner who did the Reiki work

- ULE does not have a mind of its own - it responds to our intention (conscious or otherwise)

- this means that mindfulness is critical and is a practitioner's responsibility and the consquences of lack of mindfulness may not be blithely shuffled off onto recipients

Reiki All Around,

All Blessings,

Firekeeper

We will have to agree to disagree. We have obviously been taught Reiki in very different ways. The research I have done over the years which includes translations of Usui's own notes and teachings leads me to a different conclusion. I most certainly would not dispute your experiences and I still believe that Reiki works for both of us and I respect your views and the many insights that you share on tnis forum.
Love and Light,
Michael

Michael,

/*\ Namaste :-}}

- I too have read translations of what is reputed to be writings and notes of Usui Sensei and how some others have interpretted teachings

- he codified Reiki practices and most certainly gave us much with which to work but this does not ensure that he was correct in all respects vis a vis energy work or the nature of ULE (and I feel fairly certain that Usui Sensei would not begrudge students their quest for a deeper understanding of the nature and workings of energy)

- so, we will agree to disagree

>:-}}

Reiki All Around,

All Blessings,

Firekeeper

When you say your friend became very sick, was that something new or was it an exacerbation of an existing condition? I'm asking because awhile ago, someone noted on this board that reiki treatment significantly increased a flare-up of her autoimmune condition. (Ironically, she'd previously insisted that reiki can't do any harm, but then she back-pedaled about that after her own experience.)

As for self-treatment, if you feel better with it, then I'd resuming it wouldn't seem to hurt?

Bruce

hummingbird_girl said on

>i was guided to reiki by spirit.learning it and practicing everyday used to give me great comfort.
>i did reiki on a friend after i had my attunements and she became very sick.i was told to look at what type of energy i was bringing thru.before the session i asked for guidance and for a circle of white light..i asked to be a clear channel and was so happy to be able to share this with my friend.
>needless to say,it has really affected me.
>i dont and would never intentionally hurt or harm anyone.
>i havent given reiki to myself in over a month because i am nervous as to what im channeling thru me.
>i love reiki...i feel like im wilting without it.
>any advice is appreciated.

My understanding is the notes and writings were verified as being Usuis by one of the Masters that ran the Usui school in Japan. It is true that the Usui method of delivering the ULE is just one of many methods of doing so, and it was his experiences that framed his way of doing it. Considering he used "blood exchange"( a method of massaging the toxins from the lymph system) and cupping, scanning and diagnosing illness then what we are taught has cetainly been modified as it has been passed along. I have a query for you....If a practitioners intent or personal energy is powerful enough to cause harm to a recipient then does it not follow that the same intent or personal energy can be used to heal the recipient. I think that what may be perceived as an adverse reaction to a treatment is actually what is most appropriate for the recipient in that moment of their journey. Once again not all agree, but good and bad, and right and wrong are human terms, not spirit/energy terms. This is where I believe there is a distinct difference between the two, but that does not mean "separation". I was taught and believe that Reiki will/can do no harm but we may not get the outcome that we wanted, often rather what was necessary for our journey. Thanks for this discussion, as usual I gain from others insights and perceptions.
Love and Light,
Michael

It is good to be nervous about what you are channeling. Use the force underneath your anxiety, to demand clarity in your experience of Reiki. Observe what happens under different conditions, try different alternatives for cause and effect. Ask your heart to guide your mindfulness for the good of all; see what comes of that. Notice when experiences seem a little "off" -- what's missing or different about how you approached them?

That is practice.

Blessings,
Aronaya

Once, I was doing chair Reiki at a wellness fair. After a few clients, I was really "cooking", and felt a moment of pride, when on the next client I found the exact spot of her deepest grief and pain.

After that session, I felt a rare dizziness, realized what had happened, and asked my partner for an immediate Reiki treatment, while offering renewed humility to the ascended Reiki masters. All was well, lesson learned.

Another time, I did a distance healing for a friend halfway around the world, and the report came back that his pain had been amplified. Possibly I was showing off?

Reiki is Reiki, and humans are humans. We do not leave behind our frail humanity, we do not escape our bodies, when we do Reiki. Doubt is our constant companion, and that is good. Makes us careful and mindful.

Be of good heart!

Blessings,
Aronaya

HI THERE HUMMINGBIRD- SORRY TO HEAR ABOUT YOUR EXPERIENCE WHICH SEEMS TO HAVE BEEN VERY DIFFICULT

I HAVE PRACTISED MANY TYPES OF REIKI FOR ABOUT 15 YEARS AND IT IS VERY COMMON FOR THE PATIENT TO EXPERIENCE A HEALING CRISIS- THIS MEANS THAT THE PATIENT WILL GO THROUGH ANYTHING FROM FLU-LIKE SYMPTOMS TO DEEP EMOTIONAL RELEASES.

TRY NOT TO LET THIS EXPERIENCE UNDERMINE YOUR RELATIONSHIP TO REIKI WHICH YOU DESCRIBE IN A VERY BEAUTIFUL WAY.

I HOPE THIS HELPS.

YOURS IN LIGHT ,

STEPHEN TINTO

Be careful about what's attributed to "a healing crisis." As indicated by a survey of the literature, a healing crisis is neither severe nor of long duration. Yet some people -- not necessarily Stephen -- invoke the term to dismiss any adverse effect of reiki, mild or not, short or not.

The way some people use the idea of "healing crisis" is similar to unfalsifiable assertions in some sort of Freudian analysis. If my behavior is antisocial, it's because I hate my mother. On the other hand, if my behavior isn't antisocial, it's because I'm compensating for hating my mother. But there may be a simpler explanation -- in fact, I don't hate my mother.

Bruce

i am so thankful for all the wonderful words and discussion here.everytime i am about to respond someone else posts something that i take into my mind and ponder.
i dont remember any thoughts as i was doing the reiki,but it sounds as if there were some without me even being aware of them.
thoughts and energy do run deep.
and no..my friend wasnt sick at all.she is actually a very healthy person who hadnt been ill in years.
mindfullness is something that i need to work on...or rather mindlessness.
i tried a self treatment the other day and was so discouraged by the fact that i had only gotten to my crown and my mind was just all over the place.i finished the session and consider it a small victory step in getting back to my regular daily treatments,but the focus..just wasnt there.
like i stated before,reiki has become an important part of my life..my being..i am a healer..it what i was put here to do.i guess you could say "i" took a big hit from this experience.
lesson learned....
remain clear and no-minded
remain humble
heal thyself
stay in the light
i look forward to hearing and learing more from all on the board.
i am so thankful i reached out.

santori to all...

Dear Hummingbird,
I agree with Aronaya. Technology has been around for millennia--but since the 60s satellite presence has increased and can influence us. It's good to pray to God to find the answers before you use any modality or start channeling to anyone. First work on yourself.
peace,
Prosperity

When, or if I pray to god, or other divine presence like angels, saints or others, I do so with no expection though (i hope) with love. I take it on faith that if there is divine intervention, whoopee! but if not then accept.

I don't trust to get what I ask for.

So, I accept that god exists. And thats that. If God doesn't intervene in my life, I suspect though thats it in a very subtle way.

the people I meet, the kind words, or the accident that changes my life even though it hurts so much I can hardly breathe, But ultimitly making me a stronger person.

Boy! You'd know I've had a few scoops on me tonight. bagl.

Energy can be contaminated. Yes I have heard that Reiki can do no harm too. Also that it is from the violet ray so why would someone pray for white light energy which would contain all including contaminates?
thanks,
Peace,
Prosperity

hi jaguar,
I agree not to expect anything when praying, that God does not intervene directly with us but through maybe intuition, people, animals, experiences, a middleman as it were such as some refer to as Holy spirit, river, a actual person or Higher power, whatever a person can identify with personally. Sorry to hear about your accident. thanks for your thoughts.
peace,
Prosperity

as related to hummingbird asking for a circle of white light. ??
thanks ~

No accident per sae but an experience though accidental can cause the breathless feeling. e.g. a wrong word, or glance that triggers something that may cause some hurt in paticipant. Be it not intended so.
So, Thats what happened with me, I had to go within, see what the problem was and accept. Nonetheless, I didn't beat myself up to much with it. But I feel better within for the experience. Now I know I can survive a few hits.

prosperity said on

>Energy can be contaminated. Yes I have heard that Reiki can do no harm too. Also that it is from the violet ray so why would someone pray for white light energy which would contain all including contaminates?
>thanks,
>Peace,
>Prosperity

I haven't done reiki yet to know for sure, but it is my understanding that it cannot be contaminated with the practitiioner's own energies if done correctly--like as chi gong is always warned about; however, with the mixing of practices or stray of focus I suppose it is possible.

Regarding light energies: You should understand that it is light by perception; some light energies behave with the same characteristics as light from the sun et al, but most do not. There is a white ray and a white beam which have no other colors or energies--like the sodium line of physics light--it does not break down into other colors. It is extremely purifying, and healing; it is usually bright white not soft, and it can be generated by the person or brought down from the "top light" (way up there ).
If one knows how they can go into the light at the core of it it is very bright white.

The energies in healing can have substance qualities or light qualities. There are many colors to the substance energies. Soft white can be a substance or a light.

But where are we now? Is this reiki practice? What are we looking at?

White light reflects other colors away - it's from what I learned ok as a quick, temporary flush, if a person is feeling very negative, however can also kill a person or make a person ill. So, imho not wise to use. An example is if it's very hot a person would be good to be in a white car as it reflects the heat away. So, putting white light around a person reflects their energy and colors away.
peace,
Prosperity

Prosperity,
I don't know what schema you are working from. Is this reiki? Is this a reiki you learned?

From your examples and words it seems to me your are speaking of what I refer to as substance energies instead of light. I think some call it colored prana.

There are many colors of white, and shades of white that can be generated with these. Seldom is it white--almost nevrer--it is usually cream, silvcr, pearl or tinted or shaded with some other color; pink, violet, golden, autumn and grey are common tints or shades of this.

I understand it takes very good perception and development of ability to get white prana.

It is never as bright as white light of any sort.

I can't imagine putting white light around someone, it goes into them and shines out. Surrounding someone is common with the stuff I call substance.

Of course, all this explaining is wasted, possibly misdirecting since I don't know what setting you are working from.

I do however think you have some cross understanding. White in an aura can mean many things depending on the color and source in the bodies. Some say it is seen before death; death is almost always pale and lacks vigor.

To anyone who knows:
Does any of what I'm saying have anything to do with reiki? or does reiki have similar reciprocals?

what schema are you working from?

prosperity said on

>what schema are you working from?

Indeed. More than one apparently, and personal experience, but none that I could express accurately on a message board--so the point is moot.

I still wonder if any forms of reiki have similaritites to what I was attempting to say.

I never learned about white light or what you speak of from reiki but then my last teacher had no appropriate linage and from what my first teacher taught is we work with the violet ray which is a very spiritual color.
thanks and peace to you~
Prosperity