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posted at 4/16/2001 12:59 PM |
ID# 6229
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Hello again, :-)
namaste,
Another question.
If we are not treating the thymus for MS should we then also not treat it for other auto immune conditions like arthritis and aids? Are there any auto immune conditions where the thymus would/should be treated?
Input would be appreciated.
Thanks again,
Walk in beauty,
Rebecca
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posted at 4/16/2001 2:23 PM |
ID# 6231 This is a reply to: 6229
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Rebecca,
/*\ Namaste :-}}
Yes, the auto-immunes are tricky devils. :-}}
One approach to this I have considered of late is that one might treat the "subtle" Thymus without directly treating the "dense" Thymus.
Obviously treating the subtle Thymus would be accomplished at the level of the astral and\or mental bodies.
:-}}
One thought about this approach is that the Thymus might be able to respond differently to more direct energy later on - and, perhaps, in effect "learn" to respond in a manner that does not attack it's own dense body.
>:-}}
Such an approach would not be reiki, per se.
Hope this may help.
Reiki all around,
all blessings,
firekeeper
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posted at 4/16/2001 3:41 PM |
ID# 6238 This is a reply to: 6229
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Rebecca
Auto immune conditions are by their very name immunities to our selves. Our body's are
developed from within and as the cells mature and die they come to the surface and are sluffed away. Just look at the dust on a piece of furniture, that dust is and was a part you and anyone else that came to visit.
If we have a single thought that's less than abosultely positive, the energy needed to think that thought will begin in our heart and is then conveyed to all the other organs in our body's via the blood and lympth systems. As those cells mature (or germanate more negative thoughts) those thoughts within those cells rise to the surface of our skin and are then inhaled by ourselves and others.
Rag weed is a perfect example of an allergic reaction. why can't the negative energy, that negative thoughts produce, be inhaled by ourselves or others and have the very same reaction as rag weed?
Well it's just a positive thought, to a negative thought !!
T2
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posted at 4/16/2001 4:47 PM |
ID# 6243 This is a reply to: 6231
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firekeeper,
namaste,
Thanks for your response. The subtle body is an alternative that I do/will use. I wondered about this because the auto immune conditions are so often treated with imunosuppressants, which has alway seemed sort of odd in a way to me. Supressing that which is supposed to be protecting us from the thing that is attacking us. But then, it is the body attacking itself by not recognizing something in the way it should be. If I had all the answers I wouldn't be here, or likely anywhere else. :-)
Walk in beauty,
Rebecca
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posted at 4/16/2001 4:50 PM |
ID# 6244 This is a reply to: 6238
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T2,
namaste,
Thanks for your ideas on the subject.
Walk in beauty
Rebecca
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posted at 4/16/2001 5:05 PM |
ID# 6247 This is a reply to: 6243
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Rebecca,
/*\ Namaste :-}}
With things so strangely out of balance in the dense body with auto-immune disorders it seems necessary to look elsewhere.
:-}}
I would be interested in any results you become aware of (and feel comfortable sharing) through your efforts at the level of the subtle Thymus.
Reiki all around,
all blessings,
Firekeeper
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posted at 4/16/2001 7:01 PM |
ID# 6254 This is a reply to: 6247
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Firekeeper,
namaste,
I would be happy to share anything I learned (or thought I learned) from the experience.
I am going to SF for a couple of days the beginning of May and again in June for a week or so.
I am hoping to be able to work on my niece who now lives near there and will pass on anything that I gain from the experience.
Walk in beauty
Rebecca
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posted at 4/17/2001 5:54 AM |
ID# 6267 This is a reply to: 6229
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Rebecca
Namaste ....
Just a thought, but since Reiki can only do good, and that when we treat, we treat `for the highest good` rather than for a specific if we remove our directions from the treatment - then I assume that reiki offered to an inappropriate part of the body would simply move to that where it is most needed?
Love and light,
philanty
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posted at 4/17/2001 12:02 PM |
ID# 6278 This is a reply to: 6267
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philanty,
namaste,
Yes, I do believe that Reiki goes where it is needed. But we also direct the energy.
It is commonly taught that Reiki 'goes where it is needed' and can't be/doesn't need direction. On the other hand there is a standard set of hand positions and other treatment practices that would seem to contradict this basic teaching. Based on my personal experience, anecdotal experiences of those I have talked to, as well as the admonitions of instructors and established techniques that use the energy I believe that we definitely can not only direct but have more than a small amount of influence over the energy.
It is my personal belief that since Reiki is energy, and energy has no intelligence, that it flows as water does, to the lowest point. In the case of energy that would be the place where there is the least energy or where energy is most needed. That however, does not mean that it cannot be directed. We direct energy every day in the form of thoughts and actions, in meditation and other spiritual practices. We direct the Reiki energy as well or there would not be so much attention given to 'mindfulness', intent, and removing ourselves from the process.
That said, I feel it is a good idea to have some knowledge of how the body works and where everthing is before we go willy nilly out and zap those with serious conditions. I don't believe that we can cause them serious permanent damage, but we may be stimulating things that might better be left alone for the time being. In my experience, things such as cuts and burns heal much more quickly with Reiki and more quickly still when the energy is applied directly rather than indirectly. I don't think it is unreasonable to assume that other conditions could react in a similar fashion. Operating on that assumption, I feel that with many conditions caution in application util we understand more about Reiki is the preferable choice.
Just my opinion.
Walk in beauty
Rebecca
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posted at 4/17/2001 11:14 PM |
ID# 6309 This is a reply to: 6229
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Dear Rebecca,
In my opinion you are definetly right about giving energy specifically to certain areas for better results.
I have been dealing with a cancer patient kid for a long time. I'd like to share some of myexperiences with you.
The patient is neutropenic whic means his whiteblood cells are below 500 (normal is 10.000). That means he must wear mask all the time. His redcell count is 6.5 (normal is 10) he needs blood transfusion he feels week due to no oxigen support. It had been like this for the last 2 months. And he gets very expensive whitecell boosting shots but they do not work.
During whole time I was giving energy to him his chakras was incredibly strong spinning like a twister. But tumors and counts was still there.
After a knowledge I have received from a dear friend I have sealed all the tumors in a piramid. Stopped all the blood supports going to the tumors. Sealed all the veins with energy. And I have placed visualized piramids on all of the bone marrows where the blood is being produced so they are under constant energy.
After I have done that, in 4 days his white cell counts jumped to 5500 from 0-10. He is not neutropenic any more he doesn't need to wear a mask. He had an appointment for blood transfusion on monday. Previous friday his count was 6.5 and on the count in monday it came up to 7.5 and still rising. They have cancelled the transfusion.
I don't know about the tumors no medical scan is taken yet. But when I scan him with energy I see the primary ones still there.
So two months of general energy sending trusting his spirit would take care of it did not work on the immune system and the tumors. Specificly targeted energy as far as I'm concerned worked rapidly. Maybe I am mistaking that was the general energy worked and body is responding now. But my experiences especially on cancer tumors tells me that working on a specific targets definely more effective than letting the body and spirit decide.
Sprinklers always miss a spot in the garden. But with a hose it is impossible to miss a spot.
Power of creator, power of knowledge, power of love be with you all the time
Kuranko-gen
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posted at 4/18/2001 6:23 AM |
ID# 6313 This is a reply to: 6309
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Namaste all
Kuranko-gen - I wish your young friend my best wishes. I am pleased to hear that he is having positive results and that you are helping him in this way.
I too think that reiki goes where its needed first. Tumours, auto-immune problems, and all other health problems must start somewhere. Unless the cause is treated - the root - how can the surface problem just disappear. Is this not why some things take many reiki treatments? Sometimes the root is buried so deep that other things have to be cleared or sorted out first.
At times there are instant healings - I think that this is because the recipient has come to the point in his/her life when the illness/problem has 'served its purpose'.
We, as reiki channels, can not possibly know why someone has chosen to have a specific problem or what the end result of it could be. Therefore how can we possibly direct the energy unless we ask it to go to the source of the problem.
Have any of you tried this? I have only asked this specifically with myself. If I felt led to do this with a client I would ask them to ask for reiki to go to the source - I feel that its totally up to them what energy they receive and what heals - on whatever level.
We've had similar discussions about this before and I still feel that the recipient is in charge - not us.
As always, I'll be interested to hear your views.
:-}}}
Eleanor
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posted at 4/18/2001 1:55 PM |
ID# 6336 This is a reply to: 6309
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Kuranko-gen
namaste,
I'm glad to hear that he is doing so well. Thank you for sharing that with us.
My husband and I have a friend who recently had a stroke (a pretty severe one). I worked on him 3 to 4 times a week for several weeks while he was in an extended care facility. On those days when I targeted his circulatory system (specifically the heart and in the brain), and his nervous system he would show more improvement the following days than on those times when I 'let the reiki flow' without specific target. I can't be absolutely sure that targeting those systems was the reason for his improvement those times when I did it but..... I am pleased to say that it has been three months and he has 90 - 95% of his function returned. If anything that I was able to do helped in any way, I am grateful that I was able to contribute.
Walk in beauty
Rebecca
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posted at 4/18/2001 1:57 PM |
ID# 6337 This is a reply to: 6313
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Eleanor,
namaste,
When someone wants reiki for no specific reason, my intention is simply to let the energy flow.
When I work on someone for a 'condition' I always ask that energy go to the source, where/when/what ever that may be. I don't make any determination or speculation on what that might be. I also target the 'symptom'. I don't see any conflict in this. I don't think that it must be 'one way or the other'.
I don't expect that everyone is going to be 'cured'. Their condition and it's resolution is something that is between them and their creator.
Usui's and Hayashi's treatment manuals were developed for a reason and I don't see any reason why we should not expand on them.
I think it is a partnership. :-)
Walk in beauty
Rebecca
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posted at 4/18/2001 9:11 PM |
ID# 6363 This is a reply to: 6336
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Dear Rebecca,
I love hearing good news about healing. It really makes me happy.
I don't beleive any disease is natural. I beleive body nor spirit don't want any disease at all and disease is not part of our karma. Healing, helping other people is part of our karma. I understand getting old and having problems with our body because of age, that is normal. But kids or young people having cancer or any other serious disease not related to age or accidents is not normal. I did not have any training in reiki but I have worked together with people who has reiki and other teachings about energy. I have seen people doing a lot of different stuff than mine.
I beleive in energy and giving it with pure heart and love can not harm any person even if they don't ask for it. So no matter what we do with energy, no matter where we give it, we can not do nothing but good to the people as long as it is pure love.
I know the question is how we heal but my answer is do anything you think helpfull. Becasue energy follows your thoughts and heart when you healing somebody if you think about their immune system, neurological system you already give energy to that part. If you think about any person, you already send energy to them, if you think about any person passed away they already around you.
Is this enough for perfect healing? I really don't know, I wish I knew, but I'm sure it doesn't hurt at all.
Wish you all the energy for your healings and your spirit.
Kuranko-gen
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posted at 4/18/2001 10:58 PM |
ID# 6365 This is a reply to: 6363
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Kuranko-gen,
namaste,
> Wish you all the energy for your healings and your spirit.
Thank you very much.
Walk in beauty,
Rebecca
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