The Reiki Cafe 

Wow! I see what you mean by friendly and caring. Maybe what I was looking for was a more practical and less personal site, as my most pressing questions are awkward ones that I don't really want to share with anybody!

But they've been preying on my mind for years now and are going to fester if I don't get them out. So here goes.

I've experienced real healing miracles with reiki - I imagine most practitioners have. But on three occasions I've had questionable results.

One: a friend fell on a broken step in Spain and punctured her leg a bit. She cleaned the wound, bandaged it and asked me to do reiki when I saw her. I did for about 20 minutes.
Some two weeks later I saw her and asked about her leg and she said she'd had to have the wound drained by doctor. It had closed too quickly and had left an infection inside.

Then: a friend's child was suffering with a sore neck and I did a bit of reiki. It stopped hurting and she cheered up. But then I learned her mother had been really pleased because it seemed she was coming down w/the measles. However, I did the reiki, and the measles never developed!

O.k., I'm sending this now because my posts keep erasing! shows I don't want to talk about this. But has anything like this ever happened to anyone?

Petra

Hi Petra,
My name is Tony, I'm from Ireland also, here:
tony@clubi.ie

I know what you mean, people in Rieki seem to be reluctant to talk about their opinions on the effect of Reiki in certain situations.
I treated my son's girlfriend once, she's semi-paralised, and in the last 10 mins. of the treatment, she experienced the time she became paralised when she was 10 years old!
She couldn't move her legs for at least 15 mins.
It scared the shit out of me!! (Pardon my French!)

As far as I can see, the only person that has the right answers for you,.....is you.......

I know that makes about as much sense as platting sawdust!
But I think we're all more confused about the effects of Reiki than we like to pretend.
I don't know if this is a help or a burden, but it is sencere.
Love in confusion,
Tony.

Hi Tony,
I don't for one moment pretend to know what goes on in the lofty realms from which reiki hails, and I've never personally had an experience such as the one you describe w/ your son's girlfriend. But, from what I have read, it is very common during a reiki session to touch upon past traumas and bring them to consciousness.
It makes sense to me that she should have re-lived the moment. This seems like something very positive that should lead to a deep healing. Since it happened, I'd imagine she was ready to face this in order to move beyond.
I can also imagine how scary it must have been for you, and for her!
What was the result? Have you noticed any changes in her since? Have you carried on doing reiki to her? I hope so. How long ago was this?
My biggest problem now is that my messages keep rubbing out! so bye - before this one does.
love
Petra

Petra,

Namaste,

I wouldn't think that what you are talking about is 'questionable' results. Unless you had the 'perfect outcome' in your head before starting. Reiki simply IS. It does what it is supposed to do.

I think the object is to be open about HOW the healing comes about. To not have the outcome in your mind. She may have had other problems to begin with, or not wanted to be in that place at that time, and the 'accident' was to give her a way out, or various other senarios. The wound may have ended up even worse if you had not interveened.

In other words, separate yourself from outcomes. Don't let your ego get involved. Enjoy the reiki, and the help that it gives, and all will be well. :o}

Blessings, Priestess

Priestess, thanks for your reply.
I know what you mean, and when things don't work out as I'd hope w/ reiki (thankfully, usually w/ myself), I try to find a hidden reason.

But in this case, I see this: the wound sealed very rapidly, which I think was due to the reiki. But the infection remained trapped inside. My friend actually had to go several times to the doctor for draining and we didn't go into details, but it seems it was quite unpleasant.

I feel that 20 minutes reiki was not enough to heal the infection. So my reaction to this incident has been to do more reiki in almost all cases. In fact, ever since, I'm a bit afraid of doing just a bit of reiki. I continue giving treatments until the whole condition is cleared up.

Everybody seems ok with the practical issues of, say, not doing reiki to broken bones before they are set. I just think sometimes there may be better ways and worse ways of doing things and that it may be important sometimes to be aware of what one is doing - and to have more practical knowledge, which is what I am seeking!!!

I'm uncomfortable w/ these matters because it may sound as if I'm casting doubt on the benefits of reiki. No! My god! I still can't believe we're blessed w/ this gift.

Love,
Petra

Petra,

your messages are not being rubbed out. This board sorts the threads so that the last thread posted to is on top (threads last modified are first). Because this board is active, threads can quickly get shuffled further down. The easist way to find your posts is to do a search on the board searching by username (that being your own). Also, if you write down the ID number of your post you can jump directly to it. Your original post is at:

The only posts that get deleted are those of a commercial nature (trying to sell stuff - there is another board for that), and posts where someone is outright attacking another person. We actually have never had any of the latter. Everyone here is pretty nice to one another despite having different views. This place was created exactly for the purpose of allowing people to ask and answer the kinds of questions you have. You just have to get used to how the system works.

Namaste,

-Mike

Mike,
Thanks for your message - which has been the most practical of all!
I see how it works now.
Also, the messages I was writing were disappearing from my screen before I had a chance to send them, which kept me up retyping until about 3am! But I thought since I'd been wondering about this for so long now, it was worth losing a few hours of sleep just to cough up the question.
Namaste,
Petra

Hi Petra,

I am new to this board ... I've been happily reading all the messages during my lunch times for a few days and have just plucked up the courage to post a reply (not that you guys are scary or anything ... it's just a newby thing!).

I am feeling the same way as you at the moment, particularly where you say 'I just think sometimes there may be better ways and worse ways of doing things and that it may be important sometimes to be aware of what one is doing - and to have more practical knowledge, which is what I am seeking!!! '

The thing is that I trust the Reiki, but human egos and practical issues also affect a treatment. It is difficult to tell the difference between 'ego' and 'intuition'.

One example is a client who has come to me a few times with a Knee problem. She loves the relaxation side to Reiki, but her knee has not really improved. I tried using HSZSN to go back and clear out the damage ... something that was suggested to me by my teacher. Maybe it is not time for her knee to be fixed, or maybe she needs to learn something from it. I just want to be sure that I have done all that I can do for her.

Another example is that I have heard that using CKR could be dangerous for cancer etc because you could almost be reiki'ing the cancer and encouraging it. So this is fine and I avoid CKR in some situations ... but ofcourse I will not always know.

Another example is that recently I have been reducing the time my treatments take because the client cant afford a full treatment (so from 1.5 hrs - 45 mins). So that they dont miss out I use HSZSN to distance treat anything I didnt have time for. These clients seem to enjoy a treatment as much as the people who take 1.5 hrs. Are they missing out?

Making mistakes is a human thing, and I'm fine with it when it comes to a piece of code, but I suppose that I worry that I will make a mistake when treating someone : and unlike a piece of code, I cant rewrite them!!

Cheers
violet

I have been attuned to Reiki I recently, two days back. I gave treatment to two people for back pain. Both of them said that the pain they experienced has now gone but it has moved to another part of the back.
For someone who has been attuned recently, this is both an encouragement and discouragement. The intention is to help people but what has happened is that the pain has shifted. So I am now in doubts. Am I giving proper Reiki treatment? Is it too early for me to treat others? Can I continue giving others treatment?

I would appreciate the answers I get from this board for it would help me get out of this confusion.

Thank you all.

Hi,

I find it extremely important to talk to the client before I begin the reiki treatment.

Even people you know, you may find you don't know as well as you thought.

I begin with asking about accidents. Especially car accidents, any surgeries, what was going on in their life at the onset of this pain, etc. Have there been any deaths of people that they were close to just prior or after this pain began.

Often you don't have to go this far. Sunday night I was just asking a new client about accidents, and immediately she started telling me about a car accident she was in when she was 14 (she is now 50ish). She was a passenger in a car and was thrown clear and unconscious for several hours before waking up in the hospital. She said to me "I have never felt like me since then". She has also had lots of back pain, particularly the neck, ever since then.

Tells you something, does it not? When I was doing the head positions, I believe it is #3, she began complaining how hard my table felt under her hips. Then she was telling me that it felt like 'concrete' and very painful. She was restless, and it was taking effort for me to be focused with her in pain and moving around.

She was actually 'living' the part of the accident where she was on the concrete, and unconscious. It took quite a bit of time and work, and working on her back, to get rid of all the pain that was there. It kept trying to lodge in her coccyx.

I don't think that because a person is unconscious that s/he is unaware of what is going on. :o}

Ask questions, that will help to locate where the pain really is. Sometimes it just moves, because you haven't gotten to the REAL source of the pain.

Hugs, Priestess