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posted at 4/24/2001 4:49 PM |
ID# 6728
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Hello my friends,
Sorry if I come off grouchy, but I needed to write this to get it off my chest.
I'd like to talk about a disturbing email I received recently from a dear friend. While
inquiring to him about the energies he has been channeling and the attunement he is
currently offering; I found that he and a woman he recently attuned has been hurt by a
person who sent this women a letter saying that she needs to be careful because my
friend "Soul Alchemist/Joe" has "Dark energies" surrounding him.
I'd like to say that Joe does not have dark energies that are hurting people like the letter
that was written suggested. It is true however that Joe did ask for assistance with an
unwanted being that he believed was trying to control what he was channeling because
he believed it very sacred information. But this was Three Months ago!
When Joe told me what was happening, I immediately sent protection and healing. He
told me that this didn't clear the problem completely, so I sent healing to this "Spirit" to
stop the energy from feeling the need to control. Of course I believed it was fear
speaking but I allowed Joe his truth as I sent healing, knowing it was directed to the
Highest Good anyway. :}
Yet at the same time Joe was in a slight panic and wrote to a few boards asking for
guidance. There were a few replies to this and he later realized that it was his fear/ego
not anything that was trying to hurt him. Joe belives he has been working with a group of
very knowledgeable beings that are using him as a channel for some very ancient
information. I trust Joe. :}
He was fearful because the energy frequency he channeled was very high and it was not
familiar to him. He has since healed from this drama and moved on. It appears that
someone else has not.
I find it very astounding that anyone that is a healer would take time to undermine
someone's work as a spiritualist because of personal feelings/belief. I don't see the
actions that were taken as an act of kindness, but an act someone commits that is a bit
bitter and fearful of another's expansion and beliefs.
It is really not for any of us to say what is truth for you, is true for me. Joe believes as I
believe he has a special gift. And he loves to share this information on His Own Healing
Site. People come there because they share his belief in the healing energy that he is
channeling.
There are lots and lots of energy coming onto the planet to heal our world as we know it.
We have no idea how much potential there is for healing if we only opened up our minds
and hearts to the ever expanding reality that Love is All there Is, and that Love always
Gives when we ask.
The world has lived in fear long enough. It is time to shift into a more loving reality for our
selves and for planetary healing. Let Love without fear, show us all the way.
The world has never been static. But there are a few who cling to the ideas there can
only be One Sacred healing energy that is the most Pure. We see the fights over how
pure, how mindful, how this and that. The best is definitely Reiki, Seichim, Radiant
healing, etc..
This is simply not true. All energy given with Love is Best, because it is through the
purness of our expression we heal and find our own healing.
It is our own belief in our selves as Love that bridges this truth and manifests our highest
Love of Love itself. We all see healing in our own unique way; which is what makes these
so called different "energies" so awesome.
No one has to be Wrong. Everyone has the potential of finding a perfect fit for
themselves in regards as to how they Feel Loves Presence and how they want to
express it.
Lets give some dignity to ourselves by not being judgmental in assuming we know the
truth of each individual on this planet. Or even assume we already know our own truth for
that matter.Life is for living and experiencing ourselves as manifestors of our own
highest Dreams of who we are Now. Ask for a higher truth; a blessing and watch one
Manifest.
In conclusion, I'd like to say that this post is not as to whether Joe's energy is valid or
believed in by everyone here on this forum. To each his own I say. While Joe was still
posting on the boards here, he selflessly offered this energy freely for anyone, to the best
of his abilities, but has by no means forced anyone to accept this energy unless they
were interested in receiving. He was however very enthusiastic to share. I do so love
enthusiasm. :}
He also explained as best he could, the many uses of this energy; which in itself can be
scary because there are times when people speak in such a way that might be
intimidating to someone who is exploring their truth. It took great courage to say, " I have
found an ancient energy I believe is worthy of your attention, allow me to gift you with
these energies as they were given to me." Joe has been through many shifts in
consciousness and spiritual growth as he steps out fearlessly on his chosen path. I say,
"Go Joe!"
I find it is of vital importance that we are able to trust and speak freely without fear; yet
time and time again I see someone vulnerable to hurt, being hurt by those who seem to
be saying, I have no ego issues.
I saw someone who received a clearing from Joe, remark unkindly to him on the forum.
Instead of just saying thank you I didn't perceive a lot but I appreciate any and all healing;
this person chose instead to say condescending remarks aimed to hurt as apposed to
healing.
Joes' truth may not by my truth; it may not be your truth. But when someone heals with
their highest love and sends with an open heart, Please; respect them and be courteous
with their feelings. There is no honour when we make ourselves feel better through the
hurt of another.
I apologize if I am coming off as angry, (perhaps no honour in this post) but I do not like
to see people exposing their own fears to manipulate others into believing an untruth
about someone Else.
As you may note, I am a very passionate person but at the same time I long for Peace.
Since my fears told me to not say anything, I decided it was more healing for me at this
time to do the exact opposite. (Ha, so there Fear!)
Love the world and Hurt it not. Perhaps one day I will learn to live in Peace. Of course I
realize only by facing my truest feelings can I find this peace I am talking about. :}
Everything is a cycle for the most part. We learn to trust our selves, and love ourselves by
teaching as we learn. There are many people out here looking to be understood and
have a voice as they move through the great shifts in perception and fear so they can
heal. Only by loving responses will this not push some of the more fearful back into a
shell that was painful to come out of in the first place.
Please, Please, I beg you to give Love a chance and choose words that offer comfort
and support. Love yourselves as you ask to be loved. This is the only way to heal.
It takes a lot of courage to say, " follow me, I trust in what I feel and who I am enough to
be wrong. I live in Light, I learn as I teach".
The balanced leader knows he is not really leading at all but gently showing others how
to listen with their hearts and be fearless in their own pursuits of truth. There is no contest
here. Lets not be so eager to hurt with our egos, but heal with our love.
Thank you for taking the time to listen to me venting,
I love you all,
Susan
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posted at 4/24/2001 5:34 PM |
ID# 6737 This is a reply to: 6728
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Susan,
/*\ Namaste :-}}
I only know bits and pieces of all this and what posts SoulAlchemist and I have shared.
My previous sense of SA and the matter has, so far, not changed.
My view is that persons or beings who vibrate at the sorts of "levels" to which you refer or claim to be privy will not likely have trouble getting a pretty good idea (read, sensing} who IS and is NOT "ready" for "new energy" or knowledge, etc. - especially if they take the time to do so.
There is also an olde Teacher's maxim: "The proof of the pudding is in the eating" -
- This applies to doing energy work as well as cheffing.
>:-}}
It is also each person's right to say they "believe" they may have received adverse energy (as long as the intent is not malicious defamation) - just as it is each person's right to say they "believe" they only send "healing".
Again: the proof of the pudding.........
I will say it is more tactful to make strong statements such as you refer to in private E-mails -
- I am also thinking that rebuttals might be better in private - although you carefully mention no names :-}}
A fine point - you say you healed this so-called dark energy attachment - but you do not say you actually sensed its presence - only that you "believe" the problem was fear - which of course is an Ego matter - as is anger.
I hope you are better for having vented.
Reiki all around,
all blessings,
Firekeeper
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posted at 4/24/2001 7:24 PM |
ID# 6744 This is a reply to: 6737
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Dearest Firekeeper,
*Hugs you warmly**
Yes I do feel better, thanks for asking. :}}
Actually, when I asked Joe back then what the energy was exactly he could not tell me exactly.
He has come a long way in understanding himself and the energy he is channeling.
In regards to the healing I sent to him, I did ask and as he is very open to any and all healing said yes.
I believed firmly in the belief that it was his belief of a being whom was controlling his pendulum so I healed what he feared. I told him what I had done with my own blessings and he said he found relief from the control issue.
He was also receiving counseling from his SRT teacher at that time. I am not sure when that was. But of course you know belief is what counts. He believed strongly in his SRT Teacher and his teachings, so found relief from fear. How I faciliatated I will never really know. But as when any of us send healing, we can only say we healed the person perfectly in the Exact way they asked to be healed.
If this healing consists of being able to feel peace, so be it. If it is any Thing, this is great. It is possible (not sure) You think I may do a full healing session but I do not. I simply meditate with the persons essense and I also spoke to the fear itself.
Lastly, there were actually many people who received clearings from Joe and really enjoyed the experience. I realize it is perfectly acceptable to be honest in your opinions as to what happened three months ago, but to continue to say negative things is not in the best interest of anyone.
I've thought about this alot recently, and it continues to plague me. I realize that unfortunately I have given my own self a negative issue I need to come to terms with. Forgivenss is not always peaches and cream, as much as I hate to admit it.:{ But I will perservere and work on it at home as always, I do have lots of bath salts and inscense a burning for just such a situation.. Hahahaha..
Hope this helps,
As always, appreciate Your honesty,
Susan
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posted at 4/24/2001 11:39 PM |
ID# 6749 This is a reply to: 6744
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Susan,
/*\ Namaste :-}}
I am glad you feel better. :-}}
If I said anything negative about SA, it was not intended in a personal way - but my "intuition" has not let me down in many years - so I speak accordingly.
:-}}
I too appreciate frankness - more so, I admit, sometimes than others :-}} but try not to avoid it.
Ah, belief......
A Teacher once suggested that - belief is a state of mind -
- not necessarily a state of Mindfulness (about Existence}.
- though beliefs are somewhere within The true Nature of Mind
>:-}}
- If it is my belief I do not have a spleen - do I or do I not have one? perhaps evidence of "venting" would reconcile the matter.
:-}}
- if I have the belief that my ears have quills - do they or do they not? If my wife tries to kiss me on the ear and is impaled - that too might reconcile the matter
>;-}} - fortunately her lips are still intact.
bagl.
- belief is like putty - but a nutty putty which sometimes is Manifest and sometimes Virtual - sort of - you know what I mean.
>:-}}
Reiki all around,
all blessings,
Firekeeper
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posted at 4/25/2001 10:44 PM |
ID# 6778 This is a reply to: 6749
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Dearest Firekeeper,
I was just speaking with SA today.
One of the things to note is that when he first began his work channeling, he WAS new to the energy. this is not to say that three months later he is in the same condition. I believe he has come a long way and he is in much more positive condition then when you last met. :}
In regards to your words being your truth.
The whole trick with your creation of truth is your belief system. Of course if you say your ear is a quill and you DO Not believe, it will not hurt her lips.:}
Your belief is important. But if she is looking at her husband of say, 20 years and you suddenly believe your ear will poke her with a quill, will this manifest you ask me? If she believes what you are projecting as a (Shaman yes?) in this case I'd say she will get an ouchie.
If her belief is not fear based and even if you taunt her with this belief of your own; she would not be poked.
My own belief, of course, I've been known to be wrong.
My own work is centering around positive expectations, and i'm working very hard to expunge negatvie belief. Darn this is hard work.
Blessings to you in all Your own works,
Love you and all you do,
Susan
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posted at 4/26/2001 9:41 AM |
ID# 6787 This is a reply to: 6778
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Susan,
/*\ Namaste :-}}
My Truth?? Hmmmmm.. I don't know the full extent of it yet.
>:-}}
But a good place to start?? How about: Do No Harm??
>:-}}
As a Teacher once suggested: When so called "personal truths" consistently fly in the face of "Species Truths", then the Individual must yield or live in real and\or virtual isolation from their kind - or with the few with similar "beliefs".
>:-}} so there is some choce, it seems. >:-}}
The same Teacher also suggested that as long as we cling to "beliefs" (that we can mold and remold as suits our "desires") as the foundation of our view of Exisitence, we will not fully apprectiate The True Nature of Mind for many many lifetimes.
>:-}}
I am glad about SA. I have not spoken with him so give him my regards.
Reiki all around,
all blessings,
Firekeeper
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posted at 4/26/2001 9:43 AM |
ID# 6788 This is a reply to: 6787
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Hello,
It is said that the teacher always appears when the student is ready.
I have been asking for a number of months for healing in regards to my anger over a certain behavior of someone else (asking spirit). I wanted to see what was being mirrored to me; it was driving me nuts and yet humbling at the same time to experience myself as anger. Is it possible to see one's self as just Be-ing, even as anger?
I do prefer to be the teacher who teaches only love but I wasn't feeling loving, so my words would have not been truth. With anger such as I've held, it is important to address the root of the pain and acknowledge myself as this very thing in which I find such intolerance in when I look to someone else. I did however say in my very first post that I was venting. And it was interesting to see the many emotions reflected in the replies. :}}
I noticed I was happy to be acknowledged as speaking my truth (high fived, lol) in some posts; and I was equally as unhappy to feel myself as not validated for my fear; but hurt for my truth on another. (My own experience, not necessarily yours)
I choose to heal myself of this here on the boards, because I think that each of us has an important lesson to teach if we only listen with our hearts, and not feel with fear. Also I chose to express my anger here, so I also choose now to express my Love.
I did recognize with every post my feelings and how it looked upon the boards, but gave my self, free reign to be "not perfect," "Not kind" because I'm only human and my thoughts here at home were "Not perfect," "Not kind".
It is tough being the student when we begin to see the lesson was never about someone else, but our own human frailties. The lesson always is and always has been about our Selves. Holding on to any anger is not healing to anyone. It is actually harmful to the spirit within and yet it has been a great healing for me trust my self enough to be my self; even as anger on this very public forum.
It is important that I not listen to my ego at this time and feel shame for my feelings. It is in seeing myself as needing healing that I can release myself from the experience of blame.
I have asked, I have prayed, I have meditated and given much thought to this painful part of myself; unable to heal it because I allowed myself to believe it was not me. I truly have looked inside to see it, but I still cannot see anything except my own inability to let go and show compassion by healing with Love and tolerance.
Maybe this has been the lesson all along. It didn't have to be about me, yet every time I became angry I became my own intolerance. It is like saying a part of me was unacceptable to myself. Only in loving ourselves as we truly are, can we love someone else as they are.
I love myself as I love this person because this person is a human being and this person has feelings, and fears just like me.
I choose to see this experience now as I would that oyster with the grain of sand. Keep working that piece of sand round and round until all you have left is a beautiful pearl.
Thank you all for your many gifts and thank you all for your very special presence in my life.
I love you all,
Susan
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posted at 4/26/2001 10:38 AM |
ID# 6791 This is a reply to: 6788
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Susan,
Wow!!! Many thoughts in there. I had to read your post a few times to take it all in and I see your point(s). It's probably my own myopia but I have a question:
I see that we must love our selves to truly love others but do we have to love our egos too? Should we love what we could be, our potential, and still try to alter (no pun) our egos to what we think they should be?
This is my recurring problem, I find it hard to accept myself, "warts and all" when I don't think I have tried hard enough to remove the warts. If I'm missing the point completely be sure and let me know!!!!!!!
Sláinte,
Mark
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posted at 4/26/2001 1:10 PM |
ID# 6796 This is a reply to: 6788
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Susan,
/*\ Namaste :-}}
What if the Teacher got stuck in rush hour traffic?
because - someone with a cell-phone stuck in their ear was unMindful and had a fender-bender and precipitated a massive traffic jam?
bagl.
Reiki all around,
all blessings,
coyote.
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posted at 4/26/2001 1:23 PM |
ID# 6799 This is a reply to: 6796
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Firekeeper,
namaste,
My belief is that if the teacher got hung up in a traffic jam, then that isn't the correct teacher. But then it is only my belief... :o}
bagl
Looking forward to tonight..!
blessings, hugs, Priestess
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posted at 4/26/2001 1:29 PM |
ID# 6801 This is a reply to: 6799
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Priestess,
/*\ Namaste :-}}
bagl.
Yes, well maybe it wasn't the "right" Student.
bagl, bagl.
All that aside, are you saying the Teacher one is expecting may not be "the One"??
- seems to cast strong doubts on expectations >:-}}
- also beliefs,
cmau.
Reiki all around,
all blesisngs,
Coyote
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posted at 4/26/2001 1:39 PM |
ID# 6803 This is a reply to: 6791
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Mark,
namaste,
As a potter one of the hardest lessons that I learned was giving up the concept of 'a perfect pot', and understanding that imperfection often adds interest and character, even beauty. (this is not to say that I keep all of my pots regardless of their imperfections. :-) ) Carried over into my life this understanding took a lot of pressure off of me to be something I could never be because I am human and by defination imperfect.
Having given myself 'permission' to be imperfect I found it much easier to accept that I could make mistakes, take responsibility for them, and to move past those mistakes. It made it easier to like myself, which is what I think most of us are trying to do when we say we need to love ourselves. We need a reason to like something. Love is, it doesn't need a reason and often defies reason. :-)
Do we need to love our egos? Are they not partof us? Ego is not necessarily bad anymore than my left hand is bad simply because it is my left hand, ego serves us well in many capacities. I may be a bit different in my philosophy than others on the board in that I don't feel that we must 'transcend' these physical aspects of ourselves, but integrate them, body, mind, and spirit into a whole.
Life is a celebration.
A celebration of the trinity of mind, spirit, and body.
A celebration of infinite wonder and creation.
A celebration of the universe contained within the smallest molecule of
every thing.
A celebration of love and compassion and understanding.
Find that part of you which remembers these things and embrace it.
Walk in beauty,
Rebecca
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posted at 4/26/2001 2:07 PM |
ID# 6807 This is a reply to: 6801
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cmau
;-))))
Firekeeper and Priestess,
namaste,
Never Fear, The Teacher is Here.
Come one, Come all, and Welcome to Brother Love's Traveling Salvation Show.
Enter on the 'left' please, no shoving, there is room inside for everyone.
Please check all expectations, preconceived notions, and reason at the door.
Suspend disbelief and take a seat, pay no mind to the man behind the curtain. All your questions will be answered.
The Goddess Diana :-))
(aka Rebecca)
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posted at 4/26/2001 2:16 PM |
ID# 6811 This is a reply to: 6807
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Rebecca,
/*\ Namaste :-}}
But - we didn't "expect" you - so how could you be "the One"
>:-}}}}
By the way - can Toto and Coyote and Pooh come too?
cmau.
- Oh yes - do clairvoyant "feelers" have to be checked at the door?
bagl.
Reiki all around,
all blessings,
firekeeper
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posted at 4/26/2001 2:52 PM |
ID# 6813 This is a reply to: 6811
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Firekeeper,
namaste,
>;-)))
Expectations were to be checked at the door. Please turn yours in and take a seat.
:-)
I am not the Teacher, only the shill (sp?) Brother Love will be out shortly. For those of you not able to attend in person, the lessons will be broadcast on your favorite cable 'channel' later this evening. Check your listings.
:-))
All are welcome as long as they follow the guidelines presented.
:-))
All extra appendages are to be 'shielded' if the cannot be detached and checked at the door.
:-))
Now please take your seat, the show is about to begin.
Thank you for your co-operation
Blessings,
The Goddess Diana
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posted at 4/26/2001 3:33 PM |
ID# 6815 This is a reply to: 6813
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Diana,
/*\ Namaste :-}}
What?? No "distance" broadcast?
>:-}}
My cable service has fallen down on the job and is "on the fritz"
Expectations?? Moi?
A Teacher once suggested that Expectations are nothing more than "beliefs" about things promised - or delusions - bagl
>:-}}
Are you promising anything??
Reiki all aorund,
all blesisngs,
firekeeper
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posted at 4/26/2001 4:08 PM |
ID# 6819 This is a reply to: 6815
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Firekeeper,
namaste,
Or possibly 'beliefs' of they way they should be.
I make no promises. :-) If I make promises then you have expectations. If you have expectations then you have disappointment/disillusionment. (nice word disillunsionment, dismantling of illusions)
>;-)))
Hugs
Diana
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posted at 4/26/2001 4:17 PM |
ID# 6821 This is a reply to: 6819
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My dearest Diana,
/*\ Namaste :-}}
Whatever happened to being in The Moment??
bagl -
- no promises, no expectations
- disappointments? too much ego there.
- disillusionment?? not enough ego there.
>:-}}
Reiki all around,
all blessings,
Firekeeper
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posted at 4/26/2001 10:20 PM |
ID# 6834 This is a reply to: 6821
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Firekeeper,
namaste,
Have patience, Brother Love will answer all of your questions in due time.
>:-}}
so you want to be serious? :-))
I think perhaps the moment went out the window when expectations came through the door.
It is hard to be in the moment when we have expectations that must be met.
A lot of energy is misdirected.
I'm off to have a bath, now there is a moment to cherish. :-))
Hugs
Rebecca
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posted at 4/27/2001 4:47 AM |
ID# 6839 This is a reply to: 6803
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Rebecca,
Namaste,
Well put. I bet you still try to make the best pots that you can though.
As for celebrations, I just have to find the party animal in me, I know it's there somewhere.
Sláinte,
Mark
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posted at 4/27/2001 9:11 AM |
ID# 6843 This is a reply to: 6788
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Dear Susan,
The road to love beyond anger is a difficult one...it is a path I am on, so I can relate to what you are saying. Without going into the anger & acknowledging it & accepting it as part of ourselves we do not heal.
Each of us carries within us all virtues and its opposite. (love, hate......kindness,cruelty....greed, generousity, etc) The world around us pushes us to deny our true nature & feelings in order to be acceptable. When we believe that a part of us is WRONG, we dont accept it. We push it away. We may focus on the opposite but the other is ALWAYS there....Thats where we get into trouble. The more we deny it the more it sticks to us like glue. And the denial does not ring true in our heart of hearts.
I admire your decision to go public with a personal struggle. Humility is good for all of us but it sure doesnt feel good when youre being humbled. (Believe me. I know!!)
Anger is not always bad...it is an emotion that may be needed in order for us to defend ourselves in a life & death struggle. It is a very necessary survival instinct. The human race has not evolved to the point where the average person can surround him/her self with enough love to stop the attack of a mad man or dog. Maybe we are not even meant to get there on Earth. Who knows?
ALL that we are.. is what we have to come to terms with. It is no different for any of us.
I wish you God Speed on your journey ( and me on mine!!! BAGL...)
Namaste,
holobon
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posted at 4/27/2001 10:49 AM |
ID# 6846 This is a reply to: 6834
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Rebecca,
/*\ Namaste :-}}
Did I say I had any questions??
>:-}}
- perhaps ole coyote just came to kibbitz.
bagl.
- coyotes having patience - now there is an interesting notion
cmau.
Reiki all around,
all blessings,
coyote
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posted at 4/27/2001 12:54 PM |
ID# 6851 This is a reply to: 6846
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coyote,
namaste,
;-)))))
hugs
Rebecca
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posted at 4/27/2001 3:40 PM |
ID# 6858 This is a reply to: 6839
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Mark,
namaste,
Thanks, That I do, imperfections and all. (actually for some time many of the imperfections have become deliberate. Ever try throwing something off-center and have it come out functional? It can be a challenge :-))
We are about due for a snipe hunt around here. Those are usually pretty good parties. Join us when one comes around, it will help you find that animal. :-)))
Walk in beauty
Rebecca
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posted at 4/27/2001 4:07 PM |
ID# 6859 This is a reply to: 6858
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Becca,
Hi Sugar,
As fun as snipe hunts are, and they do get to be quite rowdy and delightful, I kinda think I would like to attend one of those Brother Love Revival Weekends you mentioned further down. (that was an entire weekend, wasn't it?)
Haven't gone to one where I can jump up and down and shout and sing and hug everyone around me in many a moon!
And talk about getting an attunement in spirit, that would be da place!
Are you hosting?
I can bring some cushions for the tushes!
Blessings, Louise
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