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posted at 12/7/2003 10:15 PM
ID# 63031
Does anyone here that does Reiki Smoke cigaretts. My reiki master smoked and she was very good at reiki. Just wondering.

Love and Light
Sherry


re: smoking

posted at 12/8/2003 6:50 AM
ID# 63050
This is a reply to: 63031
Hey Sheery,

Smoking will not stop Reiki flow or mess with it in the same way alcohol and drugs do (Ecstacy can really unbalance one for example, although the reiki flow will often seem overactive in a Reiki person who is under its influence). infact in my experience nicotine does not mess with flow too greatly.

However like any drugs, or any type of physical self abuse, smoking is not in keeping with Reiki living. It does not help Reiki in any way, and may hinder it to some extent.

Yoga, energy work exercise (martial arts), healthy eating, self improvement through self understanding and meditation all to aid Reiki flow.

On the whole, i wouldn't advise taking up smoking to anyone, especially a Reiki practitioner.

A student asked me recently if she should give up drinking all together and i told her 'Do what you feel pulled to do, but keep alcohol intake in healthy moderation, a couple of glasses of red wine during a week is not a Reiki crime (if such a thing exists) but its not advised either.'

love and light

Shanta

re: smoking

posted at 12/8/2003 11:28 AM
ID# 63078
This is a reply to: 63031
Hi Sherry,

Yes, I smoke. Bad, bad girl.

:-))

Reiki has had more of an effect on my smoking that smoking has had on Reiki. Since beginning Reiki my consumption (no bad jokes here guys, ok) of cigarettes has gone down by halt to less than 10 a day. It has been a gradual thing and not something I have forced myself to do.

I wonder how many drink? But that is another thread.

:-))


Walk in beauty,
Rebecca

re: smoking

posted at 12/8/2003 12:05 PM
ID# 63086
This is a reply to: 63031
Otoharo!

Sherry, not I. I battle emphasema due to smoking long ago. It is not worth it.

finality

re: smoking

posted at 12/8/2003 12:15 PM
ID# 63087
This is a reply to: 63050
Otoharo!

Shanta, you explain things beautifully. There is one thing I want to add. When I worked in IPM, we were not allowed to smoke during any session at any time. Those who were addicted smoked outside during breaks. The explanation was that our guides reported that smoke itself interfered with their being able to communicate with us rather in our being able to receive their communication. I assume it is the carbon black in it that interferes. I was wary of smudging until I learned that sage is not carbon based by silicon based.

finality

re: smoking

posted at 12/8/2003 1:08 PM
ID# 63096
This is a reply to: 63078
hi diosa..
i wouldent say you are bad for smoking,if you give reiki and it works..in my opinion thats fine..i stoped smoking six years ago and know how hard it is..no one has the right to judge others..as you say how many drink..how many eat food that is no good for them..how many talk bad about others...the list goes on..who is better than who?..i would say we are all the same,but with different habits..if we were all perfect..there would be nothing to learn..blessings..one love..iboman.. ps hope one day your ten goes to zero,if that is your wish..

re: smoking

posted at 12/8/2003 1:19 PM
ID# 63097
This is a reply to: 63096
Hi iboman,

We are all human and each of us has things we do that aren't in our best interest. Basically that was my point.

:-))

No, I'm not bad because I smoke, though it is a bad habit to have.

:-))


Walk in beauty,
Rebecca

re: smoking

posted at 12/8/2003 1:58 PM
ID# 63100
This is a reply to: 63086
Thank you all.
I smoke to. I know this doesn't make me a bad person. I would never smoke during a reiki session. I hardly smoke around anyone anyway unless we are outside in the open. Even though I smoke I don't like it in my face either. I know I need to quit. And I will, not right now though, I don't need to put myself though that right now. I have to many issues the way it is. Blessings to you all.
Love and Light]
Sherry


re: smoking

posted at 12/8/2003 6:06 PM
ID# 63117
This is a reply to: 63078
(Arati looks out, started, as the door to the smokey closet is thrown open)


['']

Yeah, I'm outing myself. Not easy for a Yoga person. But they say that the truth will set you free. At the least I know who I can bum a grit from at the Reki Cafe.
: )

And I agree about the part of smoking interfering with the "connection". As does fatty foods, lack of exercise, bad red meat, caffiene, chocolate and a host of others stuff. I'm not defending smoking, just saying it does not get you kicked off the Reiki playground.


Namaste,
Michael

re: smoking

posted at 12/8/2003 8:57 PM
ID# 63131
This is a reply to: 63117
Michael,

Anytime.

Haven't noticed that it interfers but that doesn't mean that it isn't.

Please!!! Not chocolate too.

:-(((

Walk in beauty,
Rebecca

re: smoking

posted at 12/9/2003 12:03 PM
ID# 63161
This is a reply to: 63117
Yippy!!!!!!!!!!!!I can still play......race you to the slide.

Picked the day to quit.....Son called "Mom, we got our orders. We leave for Iraq....." Picked throught the garbage....found them....and had a smoke.....Promised myself.....for real when he steps on the USA

I do believe anything that poisons the body or alters its chemisty effects our ability to function at its highest level. Does not stop us from growing learning or doing energy work.....ust not to "our" greatest level

blackearth

re: smoking

posted at 12/9/2003 2:17 PM
ID# 63164
This is a reply to: 63117
Back the wagon up!

Are you trying to tell me coffee is worse than smoking?

Caffeinaholic Roxy

re: smoking

posted at 12/9/2003 6:19 PM
ID# 63173
This is a reply to: 63164

Caffeinaholic Roxy eh?

Well that explains a few things.

bagl, bagl
@;))


Namaste,
Michael

re: smoking

posted at 12/9/2003 6:55 PM
ID# 63174
This is a reply to: 63173
Michael,

;-p

Bagl

Roxy

re: smoking

posted at 12/10/2003 1:40 AM
ID# 63224
This is a reply to: 63031
I smoke like a freight train. but I consider it a horrible habit. I know my guides disapprove but understand I am having major difficulties in quitting. I don't think i'm a bad person for doing it , but I think it a horrid habit and am often quite down on myself for my inability to quit something that is both expensive and totally unhealthy.
I do periodically try to break my habit but as of this point always fail pretty quickly. At which point i usually smoke more as if i'm making up for lost smoking time. Figure that one out*shrugs*.
I would have to say it is my current nemesis. Been smoking for ummm 11 years now. The smell of it drives me nuts nowadays, I hate smoking it. I hate the whole dry mouth nasty taste afterwards. It makes me feel like a weak pathetic slave to the tobacco industry. But dangit I will quit.

re: smoking

posted at 12/10/2003 1:42 AM
ID# 63225
This is a reply to: 63161
I agree about it preventing us from functioning at our highest level. But i am still improving in terms of spiritual growth and understanding.
I have not noticed it inhibit Reiki but then again i've never practiced Reiki as a non-smoker.

re: smoking

posted at 12/10/2003 10:24 AM
ID# 63245
This is a reply to: 63224
Namaste,

Have you ever tried wet snuff? It's moist tobacco that you put under you lip. It comes in different "models", like used coffee grounds or packed in little white "teabags". It's widely used in Sweden, both by men and women, and I think it's exported to the USA. Many of the Swedish icehockey players in the US' and Canadian teams use it. Smoking in Sweden has gone down to ca 20% (WHO's target)and many say it's largely thanks to the wet snuff. It's true for myself. I used to smoke one pack a day and I'm down to 5 a day now. I get the nicotine but not the smoke and it's the smoke that's dangerous for your lungs.

Brit

re: smoking

posted at 12/10/2003 11:55 AM
ID# 63252
This is a reply to: 63245
Brit,

Hi,

I'm no expert and certainly don't want to come across as if I'm knocking anything here but (there we go with that word again :-))) I have read that snuff is actually worse than cigarettes over the long run. (Mouth and stomach cancers as well as esophageal)

There really is no good alternative to smoking except to quit. Can't tell you how many times I've done that. :-)) I have found that each time I start again I do smoke less and have switched to all tobacco smokes (so now the chemicals are likely only in the paper :-)) I can't say for certain but like I said before my smoking has also decreased since Reiki. So maybe its a combination of things.


Walk in beauty,
Rebecca

re: smoking

posted at 12/10/2003 12:03 PM
ID# 63253
This is a reply to: 63224
conflagration,

It is a pretty nasty habit and a person can smell pretty bad depending on whether they have facial hair and whether they smoke inside or out and how often they wash their hands and hair and any number of other things. :-)))))

Beating yourself up over it isn't going to accomplish anything but creating bumps, bruises, abrasions, and lacerations about your physical being (and emotional one too) Start with not bad rapping yourself for doing it and go from there.


hugs
Walk in beauty,
Rebecca

re: smoking

posted at 12/10/2003 1:38 PM
ID# 63258
This is a reply to: 63252
YEs snuff eliminates the smoke aspect. But you still have the nicotine addiction and the oral fixation/hand to mouth pattern which is supposedly just as hard to break as the nicotine addiction.
I smoke the same now as I did when i started Reiki. It's sad really LOL but i can hardly go three hours before getting twitchy and way irritable. The closest i have come to quitting was with Smoke Away. Got to 5 days with that.

re: smoking

posted at 12/10/2003 6:16 PM
ID# 63286
This is a reply to: 63253
I am so glad to hear that so many of you smoke. Not that it is a good thing but at least I can stop beating myself up over the issue. I just like to smoke. I know it is bad for ya, but anymore what isn't. The more I think about quitting the more I want to smoke. I think if you take off the pressure of quitting and just cut down is the key. Anyway, blessings to all and healings to our lungs.

Love and Light
Sherry

re: smoking

posted at 12/10/2003 6:47 PM
ID# 63289
This is a reply to: 63286
Sherry,

I know exactly what you mean about everything being bad for us. When my daughter was a baby (she is now 34) there was a big stink about baby powder causing cancer. Well, I just threw up my hands and said "I give up"

A couple of years ago a friend was considering moving to England and sent me a newspaper article about mad cow wondering about media hype, how even the most mundane daily things had become dangerous, corperate irresponsibility, and if they sould reconsider moving.

I answered (rather tongue in cheek) with:

When they told me baby powder was cancerous I gave up and decided that everything was harmful so there wasn't much point in losing sleep over it.
Seriously though, it has become unbelievable in scope. We have no control over it and others are more interested in profits until it becomes rampant and there is nothing they can do but pay attention to the problem, but by then it is generally far too late. Beyond isolating yourself completely there isn't anyplace that is safe. Even then whatever it is will reach you eventually.
My friend in Whales just told me that they have linked Chrones disease to the inadequate pasteurization of milk. Seems that the highest concentration of the disease is in Europe and the US where pasturization regulations are the highest. Maybe there is a reason that East Indians don't eat cows :-) We can only do what we can. I think I'll become a vegetarian and eat genetically altered foods with pesticides engineered into their genes. (Even if you think you are eating organic, who are you trusting to tel you the food really is what it is represented?)

It isn't so much the things that we have control over that cause us to become depressed but they things over which we have no control. So the choice is to take control or not to worry. Since it is impossible to take control over every aspect of your life, don't worry, be happy. :-))


So, don't worry, be happy

bagl


Walk in beauty,
Rebecca

re: smoking

posted at 12/11/2003 12:12 AM
ID# 63332
This is a reply to: 63289
...I get it now,.... you guys are talking about tobacco.


I smoke mad cow chips myself.

@;-))


Namaste,
Michael

re: smoking

posted at 12/11/2003 9:14 AM
ID# 63341
This is a reply to: 63258
I didn't mean to sound like a promotor for tobacco, that was not the meaning! It's just that myself I'm not quite ready to give up smoking completely, not yet. So I tried the alternative and found it 'good'. I know you can get various trouble from snuff - not cancer though, that's been proven in studies. And I have also heard that quitting with snuff is much harder than cigs.
But I still like it. I can get hit by a car and be gone in a second, so I might as well enjoy myself while it lasts :)) Remember Usui's principle: Just for today, do not worry.
Brit


re: smoking

posted at 12/11/2003 10:57 AM
ID# 63351
This is a reply to: 63332
Hi Michael,

I hope that you smoke them well dried.

bagl


Walk in beauty,
Rebecca