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Otoharo!

Sherry, all I have said on this thread has been sharing my experience of pain, how I kept it alive, rather than relieving myself of it and how I eventually did, and how I did it. In the depths of pain, is a window that one can open to see realness. And in that instant can choose something different. I endured many decades of this process. Had I been able to do this in the twenties, what a differnce this life would have been!

finality

...the many thoughtful responses to my initial post.

It was meant not as a direct salvo at Pepi, but as an invitation for contemplation, given the prevalence of "Something bad happened to me, so it must be a planned lesson" sort of thought I have seen here and in other places..

A bit about me...

I was two when an adult man began having sex with me. I began remembering it when I got sober (almost 18 years ago
now). I have chronic depression, controlled by medication; mostly resolved post-traumatic stress disorder; and dissociative identity disorder now in the stage of integration. Nothing provided a magical cure for anything: not Reiki, not Wicca, not ignoring it, or thinking pretty thoughts, or stuffing the rage or mouthing psuedo-forgiveness or "make everything fine in three days" New Age crap. If anything, spiritual practice brought everything up to be dealt with...emphasis on "to be dealt with."

In the mid-90's, the bottom fell out of my field. [Six years after contract crap cost me the best job I ever had, the woman who had my former position was making 3/4 my salary and had no benefits. I also discovered that employers preferred cheap new grads to someone with 17 years' experience.] I almost lost my house, and finally went back to school at the age of 47 to re-tool for a new career.

Unsurprisingly, I've been through a number of stages in dealing with life's little ups and downs. For quite some time I envisioned god as taking pleasure in pulling the wings off flies, and wondered why I was his favorite fly. There followed past-life quests for karmic "reasons" and various other firkeytoodlings.

At this point (quite possibly due to middle-age fatigue) I no longer seek reasons beyond the obvious. I've been out of work because my field crashed and the economy sucks. My abuse happened because some people are evil and crazy. I also happen to be blessed in my friends and to have a bit of talent and intelligence. Some days (or years or lifetimes) you're the dog, sometimes you're the hydrant. For those who embrace non-duality, it's both simultaneously.

I like my lemonade fresh-squeezed, sweetened with with maple syrup and some cayenne pepper for kick!

Bright blessings. Hail Eris; all hail Discordia! BOOM!

goldenisis

Otoharo!

Rob, were you there 35,000 years ago when it happened? I doubt that it began as a existence within itself. It resulted as thought form of humans. It has no existence. It remains a thought form that hangs over the planet. It targets humans with dread. Dread of some impending doom.

finality

Otoharo!

Goldensis, you blasse us with your sharing.

finality

Pardon my spelling. You bless us.

finality

Hi knew I would get a response to the JOy thing. I was only referring to not having pain one day and feeling physically good. You are right, I may have used the wrong word.

Love and Light
Sherry

Yes what a different life you would have had. All I am saying to is that sometimes it does take almost a life time or even not even in this life time to figure this out. For some it is just not that easy. Blessings to you, I am glad you did. :}
L&L
Sherry

Goldeneis, Thanks for your sharing. You and my husband should get together. Both of you have had alot of dogs peeing on you. And as for me I am the one that has had to get the paper towel out and clean up the mess, I guess you could say. I just felt so bad for Pepi, she really took this post to heart. Maybe she got what she needed to hear but didn't want to except it. Sometimes when you are in such a downer you can't see past it. Maybe if she would let up a bit and not be so hard on herself to figure it out it might just resolve itself.

My husband to as I am writing this, is brings his tool boxes home from Daimler Chrysler, because they have been bought out to Metaldyine. Cheaper wages, insurance, etc. For him he is a tool maker and it is a dying trade. They didn't even need them and wasn't asked to stay. So I can relate to you on that. This has happened over and over to him/us.
Blessings to you
Love and Light
Sherry

Sherry, I can remember when it was the tractor which caused wide spread loss of jobs for tenant farmers who used horses and tools that horses pulled. They were out of jobs as well as place to live. Small farmers are now few and far between. Cultural changes are happening in each generation.

I agree that an undercurrent of power is undermining everything we know in economics and vocations. That undercurrent shows a negative intent from my view of it. It is as encompassing as 9/11 and Saddaam worlds. It affects all of us.

i renew myself in reiki and in rereading things like P'taah's song he called my song. He said we could put it to music. I posted it on the writer's board.

finality

Hi Finality

No don't think I was there (eheheh) and yes I don't doubt that the first thought after realisation was not, "oh boy I better watch out for those lion things I might get eaten",
But that it happened not long after the first realisation.
Yes it is a thought form, that is what I meant to convey in my reply.
I wonder, do other life forms on this planet also have this dread thing to?

Namaste

Rob

Otoharo!

Rob, No. All of nature stays in tune with nature, and thus with the Holy. The reason we are different is that we have will. We choose our life. We remain separate until we choose otherwise. Nature is never separate.

finality

Greetings Finality :-)))

It was a bit of a rhetorical question on my part (sorry)

I do however have a question that isn't.

You have stateted in the past that the ego system has been kicked off the planet.

If ego is an invention of us humans, how can this happen?

Or is the ego system nothing to do with ego???.

Namaste

Rob

Hi Ann,

Here is my take on it.

Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.

I am a bit of a fatalist, I do think that some of the things that happen to us are somehow 'meant' to be. The choices we make in our life determine whether they happen sooner or later. Some of the people who come into our lives are there for a reason, how we act/react depends on the skills/tools we have at that point in our life. Bad(?) things happen, those things that happened to us as children, we dealt with as children. We sometimes have to resolve them as adults when we have a better understanding of our role in them. Many Good(?) things happen that have a lasting impact on us as well, though most of us don't focus on them and ask why they happened, we just accept them.

I don't think that every event or illness is the result of some sort of agreement we have with anyone/anything. Much of the time we make ourselves sick through the situations we refuse to act on or the way we react to them. Then again sometimes, life happens. I do think that there is a certain order to the universe but I don't think that everything that happens to us is somehow, somewhere 'written' and so must come to pass.

Why me?

Why not?

Can any of us excape living? Only one way that I know of.

I never saw a wild thing
sorry for itself.
A small bird will drop frozen dead from a bough
without ever having felt sorry for itself.
D.H. Lawrence

Maybe our problem is we are 'civilized'??

:-))

hugs
Walk in beauty,
Rebecca

Hey Swee'pea,

Thanks for the Lawrence. I couldn't remember it verbatim.

Yes, I'm sure the only reason I almost amputated my little toe this morning on a piece of furniture had to do entirely with my lack of caffienation and mindfulness, not anything cosmic.

Bright blesingsl; hail Eris!

goldenisis

Hi honey,

Couldn't remember the whole thing, had to look it up. You're welcome.

:-))

And so what did we learn from this event???

Not to perambulate before caffiene and pay attention.

Two very valuable lessons.

Morning coffee in bed? Works for me, but make mine tea please.

roflm?o

hugs
Walk in beauty,
Rebecca

Otoharo!

goldenisis, Cole always said these types of happenings were telling us our timing is off.

finaliyt

I'd say I wasn't paying attention, eh?

goldenisis, his theory was that your body is so well coordinated that it would never stubb its toe. When your timing is off this throws all your self off. The body becomes a slate to reply back to you unless you listen to it, otherwise.

finality

you said--the attachment to the event is more potentially damaging to me than the event it self...

That is so true. And a good way to put it.

As I work with people it is really amazing at how hard they try to hold on to these attachments-things they should be acting like they want to stay away from. It is hard to explain this idea, though. But it really is simple, isn't it?

Finality,

I don't know about Cole but if I bump my shins or stub my toe or any number of things I'm prone to doing, it usually has more to do with the fact that I don't have depth perception and wasn't paying close attention than any sense of timing or lack thereof.

Just my personal observation. Others may have different experiences.

Walk in beauty,
Rebecca

Otoharo!

Rebecca, I hear you. Cole, on the other hand, believed entirely that the body would never lose its timeing if we did not. I watched this occur in my own experience, and it always signaled to me to check my timing on some project I was invovled in.

finality