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Accupuncture.

posted at 8/24/2004 12:07 PM
ID# 76389

this just popped into my head randomly so i figured i'd ask. My other suffers from severe pain from a car accident about 6-7 years ago. On top of that she has all kinds of other bodily issues. At one point I asked if she had thought about trying accupuncture(which i understand the basics and that's about it) because she had mentioned her insurance covers that.

She was under the impression it wouldn't help because due to surgeries throughout her life her nerves have been shifted around some.

I was curious if this shifts the energy meridians as well or if they stay in the same position regardless of where the physical nerves and such are?

re: Accupuncture.

posted at 8/24/2004 12:25 PM
ID# 76390
This is a reply to: 76389
Otoharo!

Dave, she will just have to have an appointment and find out by experience. It did wonders for me (before I had reiki). Four days in a row of reiki all day long is another recommendation.

finality

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posted at 8/24/2004 1:13 PM
ID# 76394
This is a reply to: 76390

LOL that's alot of Reiki. I bet it was awesome.

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posted at 8/24/2004 2:04 PM
ID# 76398
This is a reply to: 76389
conflagration,

I can't help with your question on meridians, but :-)), if the insurance covers acupuncture it will likely also cover chiropractic. There are a lot of chiropractors and naturopathic doctors who are micro current certified. I can't say enough good things about micro current and would always consider it an option in almost any situation.

Just a thought.


Walk in beauty,
Rebecca

PS

posted at 8/24/2004 2:06 PM
ID# 76399
This is a reply to: 76398

I will post some links on the resources board for those interested in more information.


Walk in beauty,
Rebecca

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posted at 8/24/2004 2:40 PM
ID# 76402
This is a reply to: 76389
FWIW... I have a friend who periodically does acupressure on me. The meridians in my right leg are shifted - off by a couple inches. It may because before I had my hip surgeries, my legs were rotated inward. Now that they're straighter, the meridians haven't moved along with them. Maybe at some point they'll catch up. :)

re: PS

posted at 8/24/2004 3:08 PM
ID# 76403
This is a reply to: 76399

If I remember correctly she's one of those folks where the use of electricity is ouchie. LOL I know they tried it on me in physical therapy and one area of my back would completely cramp up everytime they hit it to the point it was not an enjoyabloe experience

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posted at 8/24/2004 3:10 PM
ID# 76404
This is a reply to: 76402
I wouldn't know myself, but she was under the impression that the meridians would be all screwey due to the nerve movement. I guess she probably doesn't want to get stuck with needles until they find the right spot LOL

re: PS

posted at 8/24/2004 3:33 PM
ID# 76407
This is a reply to: 76403
conflagration,

check the links out.

microcurrent is well below the threshold.

lots of people think that they have had it because they were hooked up to some sort of electrical equipment but in actuality few have probably had any experience with it as it has only been brought back into use in the last few years and is still not widely practided.
There are probably only a handful of practitioners in any given urban area of a couple hundred thousand people. There may be a few accupuncturists who employ use of microcurrent as well.


Walk in beauty,
Rebecca

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posted at 8/24/2004 5:42 PM
ID# 76410
This is a reply to: 76407

okie dokie i'll check it out and make the suggestion to my mother. thanks for the info

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posted at 8/24/2004 6:11 PM
ID# 76412
This is a reply to: 76389
Just some personal observations and thoughts:

I have 2 major vertical surgical incisions in my abdomen from many years ago. I had gone to 2 different acupuncurists who both also did cranio-sacral therapy. I had gone to them purely for fun- to see what it was like, and for balancing.

They both said that my abdominal energy lines (do not know if they were referring to meridians or not, did not ask) were askew. They used the needles and their c-s skills and energy to address this (in re-aligning? did not ask). This was over several sessions. I do not know what the meridian line result was (i.e. straighter?), but I do know I felt different, both after sessions, and between therapists..

However, my experience is that these 2 acupuncurists were not equal in skills despite the same degrees. Both had same level (M. Ac) and identical c-s training. One had pure spiritual energy, needles never hurt, calm, quiet, soothing. Resulted in emotional release, looseness/flexibility in joints, feeling great, deeper breathing, generally overall fluidity.

The other one was a bit earthier in approach......"just breathe in to the pain".........suuure! Stated she could feel the distortion in energy lines around incision. Did not have as "refreshed" feeling afterwards. But boy could she dig up some stuff which did not erupt til a few days later! Whew-where did that come from!

Based on what you were asking (physical nerve location vs. traditional meridian line), I wonder if it is less important than the sensitivity of the acupuncurist in locating the energy line. They placed the needles according to touch, once the general area was identified. If they do not have the sensitivity, perhaps the needle would be misplaced, leading to pain and perhaps ineffectiveness (speculation there).

The same goes for the cranio-sacral part. They would put one hand on one area, and the other in another, perhaps to re-align, strengthen, whatever (did not ask, too relaxed at the time).

I think the neural pathways and meridians are not always on the same course. One could do a search for images to compare. Also, existence of phantom limb sensations might suggest that the two are separate and unique.

One can only undergo the experience a few times to draw personal conclusions; perhaps it is an individual thing, depending on the area of damage!


Robin

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posted at 8/25/2004 12:11 AM
ID# 76418
This is a reply to: 76389
Hello,

While I can't say anything about it shifting meredians or not I can relate a little story about acupuncture.

I know 2 people who have had great success with migrains from acupuncture. The first was our next door neighbor (and my sisters sister in law). She had debilitating migraines her entire adult life. These would be so bad she would be in bed for 3 - 4 days at a time, had to be in total darkness, and sometimes could hardly get up to use the washroom. Eating was not even considered as she would just bring it up again a short time later. Nothing the doctors could do for her would help. She had been suffering this for about 20 years by this time. She had reached the point of just giving up and wanting her life to be over with when someone convinced her to try acupuncture. She had quite a few treatments on a daily basis, then went to once a week, then once a month, then on an as needed basis. She is now in her 70's and last I heard hasn't had migraines for many, many years.

The other lady was a co-worker of mine. She had a migraine hit at work one day and mentioned almost the same story. How bad they they, how long she's been dealing with it, not able to get any relief with conventional medicine. I told her of my neighbors success and she had an appointment booked within a week. She also had great success.

Will it help in your situation? Don't know, but it may not hurt to try either.

With light and love,
Featherpoint

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posted at 8/25/2004 12:57 AM
ID# 76420
This is a reply to: 76389
conflagration,

/*\ Namaste :-}}

- one view is that the Meridians carry and circulate energy through the various 'organ systems'

- that in places they may "parallel" the nervous system may be 'serendipity and not necessarily design

>:-}}

- as such, the same view would suggest that a meridian in the neighborhood of a specific nerve will not shift simply becasue there is a physical change in the dense body

- this does not mean, however, that flow of energy to the dense body component (a nerve or muscle bundle) might not be altered by damage to that component as a result of injury, surgery, whatever

- hope this helps

Reiki all around,

all blessings,

Firekeeper

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posted at 8/25/2004 10:33 AM
ID# 76435
This is a reply to: 76404
I wouldn't, either! :) From what I hear, though, the procedure is virtually painless. Once you get over the idea of being stuck with needles, you really feel hardly anything - the needles are sooo tiny.

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posted at 8/26/2004 6:30 PM
ID# 76548
This is a reply to: 76389
Hi Dave

As i understand it, meridians arent linked to any physical structure; like theres a meridian from your shoulder to your elbow but it doesnt have to follow the line of the blood vessel or nerve, although sometimes it does cos your arm isnt that wide to have separate spaces.

Like Firekeeper said, injury to areas can alter the flow of chi and cause pain and stagnation, but an acupunturist can detect this from the symptoms you describe to them, from taking pulses at different points and from general sensitivity. The idea is to get the chi flowing smoothly, it doesnt matter so much which particular route it takes around a joint.

You could think of getting some treatment too - its good for stopping smoking and helps reiki flow (i found anyway)

Sal
xxx