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Dave, my single experience has been that reiki barely squeaks through those times I was so caught up by ego. After I had solved this, reiki flows, the energy comes in a white spirally light as I have described. The little bit of reiki that squeaked through was not enhough to solve my problem. I had to contract with another practitioner for reiki and that did solve it after a great deal of time. and with all my greatest sincerest effort and intent. Having reiki is not really the issue. The real issue is a person's intnet. So what when you have a trickle coming through. It takes a clear conduit.

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Rob, you are right. That is also why I suspect Tebetans are their offspring. Xaris assures us, that each individual human will is absolute. Whatever we choose at any moment is that and can change the very next moment, as there is no judgment, therefore no punishment or revenge of any kind.

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Rob, yes, these are writings from Urantia but also we the HEB's were here and witnessed it all.

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Firekeeper, I did not state that very clearly did I? The one who presented himself to humans as God was a human who had advanced enough to be eligible for the job as administrator of the Celestrial beings on earth. He did not come as God, he came only as administrator and was very successful. He had a hundred fellows who accompanied him in order to set up a government. Ten groups of ten each. One of these groups was in charge of the area of religion. They continued in their capacity for something like 35 thousand years before the event of the rebellion.

Van and his ten were the only ones who remained loyal to the original plan. The ninety others constituted the bunch I referred to. These were not natives of earth. They simply lost their authority to be here and were removed. This action did not take place until native humans had a chance to make their informed choice. None of this was judgment, it simply was not appropriate behavior to hold their offices.

The Jehovah writings in the bible remain but not the person himself, and he was never a god. That was an imaginary role. Those who believe those portions of the bible are not judged for that belief. We are free will creatures completely and can believe whatever we wish to believe.

Even though I am describing many things that Urantia also describes, I know these things actually took place. We were observers but did not participate.

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I posted the information for you. One of the things that I like about this book, aside from texts and background information, are all of the footnotes - telling you when something was missing, if they deleted lines added by inquisitors at a later time, if it appears somewhere else, and whatever cross-references there may be. I highly recommend the book - I haven't read it all yet, but I'm working on it (in between the five other books I'm reading).

Blessings and wisdom,
DesertWolf

Hello Conflagration, I think my experience with the ouija board was caused by lack of protection. It was a long time ago before I had ever heard of reiki, energy etc. So I just went straight into with loving intentions of contacting my Grandad, but absolutely no protection, not even a prayer. As the rescue lady said I had, in my ignorance, opened a 'doorway' for lower energies to enter. It is said that for every being of light there is at least one dark counterpart, who knows what's out there.

best wishes
denise.

Maybe I lucked out. I didn't use protection either. *shrug*
And I think I was like only 14 or so.

I don't believe in satan. The idea as expressed in the various posts here seems to be a construct for some long running cosmic battle.

What's interesting is why humankind through various religions has thought to invent such an entity - is it to justify certain behaviours ("I couldn't help it, Satan made me do it!/I did it in God's name!") or just because in every good story we need a baddy as a foil for the good guy.

Sal

Hi Sal

Watch out

He's behind you (LOL)

Rob

All hail the Master

Nah he'd better watch out, I've had sprouts and beans, and we all know what that means.

Anyway you said the horns were viking not satanic, could you check if he has a tail?

Sal

In other words Sal, it is the work of Satan (LOL)

Not all horns are Viking either

Rob

In Alice Walker's book, "The Woman's Encyclopedia of myths and secrets", she states that the most distinguishing feature of a divine being used to be a horned head. - bulls, goats, stags. Horns were connected with a Tantric belief concerning male vitality: that by suppression of circulation, mystic energy mounts up.. made visible by horns. The Bible says Yahweh's alter was horned, and he was sometimes addressed as a phallic stone, ... there's a connection re: well endowment of he-goats, stags, bulls & Yahweh with horns being addressed as a phallic stone.

Her book says Satan, like all devils, began as a God, and not only answered to God's names, he even assumed a divine appearance when he wished, as an angel of light. The medieval church believed that claiming an unofficial angelic vision , a person could be charged with devil worship at the discretion of inquisitors.

Sounds as distorted as our current unjust court system with the prosecutors role nowdays having so much power.

Peace,

Prosperity,

Hello Desertwolf, *hugs**

Wow you did some great research.. :}

My belief in ole Satan is that its not what were thinking. I have had conversations with the energy of what we call Satan. I was so afraid of a "devil" at one time that I thought I"d place my fears to rest by going to the source of my discomfort. lol
Energy follows thought. So I figured that he/it was listening somewhere and I tuned in. I guess with all our combined fears through out so much time you could say that an energy now exists.. At least in my experience.

But,if I recall correctly, I felt this energy as kinda sad and deflated, yet crafty. Being an energy that is thought of as separate from God must be hard to do since we are all One.
Surely Satan has heard that rumor.. lol

Saying that Satan is whispering in my ear cracks me up. Not that we can't have energies around us directing us to do bad, but where are the angels that supposedly are surrounding us at this time? How does this devil get in???
I think we override what is right at times for things that we want. The only way to take true dominion over our lives is to live up to our mistakes and stop making so many darn apologies for who we are.
After all, we are who we think we are. If we say were this, than were this. If we are that, then we are that.

Why take our own power away by continually saying "the devil made me do it"... Silly really. Can't heal anything that is out of our hands now can we?
Perhaps just another way of operating that keeps the masses down vibrationally. You can' t be in the love space if you are in fear.

Thanks for posting that, its a great subject. By the way, I see that you have a very open minded thought process about ole Satan so don't think all this above was about you necessarily.

Love you,
Jahnavi

If God is all and we are part of God then isn’t Satan part of God as well?

Isn’t it God who created everything including Satan and in a way can’t you say that God is Satan?

rich

Hi Rich
I would say yes, if that is the belief system you adhere to.
But what if you don't believe in god?

Namaste

Rob
Friendship with oneself is all-important, because without it one cannot be friends with anyone else in the world.
Eleanor Roosevelt

Dear Rich,

What you are talking about sounds like the end of the illusion of duality. More a Buddhist concept than a Judeo-Christian one.

To many of us, a more holistic view point is completely valid.

Blessings,
Roxy

I would guess that most people who believe in the whole catholic version of things would believe in both. They tend to go hand in hand

I would also guess that if you don’t believe in God you most likely would not believe in the Devil either.

Personally I do not go by the Catholic version. I believe in God but not in the Devil. God to me is…what a long post this could be…let me just say god to me is “All that is” and leave it at that for now.

rich

Otoharo!

Rich, your thinking always escapes me. Satan was ousted when Jesus was here. All that exists now of Satan is our imagination. And Satan never was what some people still imagine Satan to be. We need some depiction of separation in order to make an intellegent choice for God. We choose either God or separation.

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Since I really do not believe in Satan I also don’t believe that Jesus could oust him.
I was only saying that if God created everything is it not true that God created Satan as well? (This assumes that you believe in the standard Christen version of reality which I do not.)

rich

These days I tend to go along with the thought that we create a god (If we need one) in our own image (The way we see god is probally different to the way someone else would see him/her, unless there has been some major bypass in immagination).Therefore Satan is also something that we create in our minds.

The have good you have bad. yin yang etc

Namaste

Rob
Friendship with oneself is all-important, because without it one cannot be friends with anyone else in the world.
Eleanor Roosevelt

Rob,

/*\ Namaste :-}}

- so what does belief have to do with anything?

>:-}}

Reiki all around,

all blessings,

Firekeeper