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Otoharo!

This term coupled with Reiki was not in vogue when I was initiated into Reiki. I do not know where it comes from. The viewpoint of the Holy can not be other than. What the Holy requires of us, is what our choice is. Our choice is the activator of everything having to do with the Holy. The Holy can only give what a person chooses. So it is imputent to throw out this term, in my perspective. It is like saying to the Holy, I choose to live like I choose to live, YOU make it GOOD for me. That is disrespectful, and spitting in the eye of the Holy. You choose what you want. The Holy gives it to you.

In this message, I use the term Holy to include all our guides, angels, helpers, counselors, etc. that are not visible to us. They all have to obey this law. That the will of the human is paramount. Not one of them including the Holy can counteract, the human will. Your human will dictates to the Holy what is what in YOUR life.

You can not sluff off your responsibility onto the Holy.

finality

Okay, Finality, let's look at this from a different perspective. When I ask for the client's highest good....if the Holy views that as "anything that the client wills", then the choice of what to recieve is still up to the client. And, isn't that we all believe? That the client uses the energy to healhim/herself through their own will?

So how is this request then impudent or sloughing off responsibility? When I ask for the highest good of my client to be done, I am asking for the will of the Divine to connect with the will of my client, am I not? And if that "client" should happen to be myself.....well, than I am asking to be aligned with the will of the Holy.
(Please go to "Part 2" since the system won't let me post it all at once)

Lionheart

My Master Alignment studies are all about connecting with my own higher will, and then connecting that with the will of the Creator. "I will to will Thy will" is one of our basic tenets. Or....in the more familiar terms of the world's most well known prayer, "Thy will be done." How is this impudent? This is merely letting the Divine know that you are stepping out of ego and willing that whatever happens is to be for the highest good of all involved. I just don't see how that can be seen as impudent. I have absolutely NO illusions that I can come anywhere near knowing what is best for someone else. I doubt that I know what's best even for myself, since I cannot see but I tiny portion of the entire vast cosmic picture.

Rather than sloughing off responsibility, I rather see the whole thing as sloughing off my ego, admitting that I know very little about the Universe, and letting the Holy know that I am in that state of ego-less-ness so that the will of the client combines with the Holy energy to create "wholeness" or wellness of being.

Namaste,
Lionheart

When I use this statement I use it to affirm my Will that I do not wish to interfere in the workings of the Universe. Or more precisely, don't want to screw with the Divine nature of things. An example is when sending Reiki I wish for it to do what is really best to help the individual(who has given consent for this since they have given me permission for Reiki)as opposed to focusing my Will on eliminating a problem that is undesireable. It's like lionheart phrased it. I can't claim to know what is truly best for an individual. Nor can I claim to know when something specific be it a disease or event is neccessary part of a person's spiritual journey for this life. It's like saying, " Dear Divine. I'm imperfect in this existence so please act on my behalf through this working to assist this person in the best way I can in accordance your Will."

Hi Finality
I think that the term came from Wiccain practice's. The way I was taught it was "For the greater will and good" as in please accept this energy for.

Personaly I no longer use it, for much the same reason as yourself, Why should I give my responsability away.

I did come to this point of view of it after a doing reiki for a few years, but can fully understand why people use it.
It does seem to have become part of the ritual of a treatment, and to my mind, if it helps someone get to place of mindfullness and intent (which is what I think I used it for), then all well and good.
I don't recall ever being taught what it meant.
But both yours and Lionhearts inturpritations of it do seem to make sense( I used to be indecsive. Now i'm not so sure LOL)

Namaste

Rob
Friendship with oneself is all-important, because without it one cannot be friends with anyone else in the world.
Eleanor Roosevelt

Interesting -- I haven't used this phrase much lately myself. I wonder why. It seemed very important in the early days of Level I and II. Still use it occasionally when I suspect I might be just trying to "fix" something according to my ego-liking.

Maybe, once we are used to swimming in the middle of the powerful river, the Divinity all around us informs right action. Then, repeating the phrase becomes redundant, because every moment of your day is committed to flowing with the Holy.

Tricky ground we're treading on, here!

Blessings,
Aronaya

Otoharo!

Aronaya, you say things so well and to the point.

finality

finality,

/*\ Namste :-}}

- Oh yes!! What goes around comes around. We cannot put that off on anyone or "anything else"

>:-}}

- our "choices" will affect the Karma we accumulate.

- however, exactly what the nature of that Karma will be cannot be predicted; nor can it be predicted when "it will come round again"

- having said that?? It is also worthwhile remembering that the Karma we have already accumulated will affect the choices we make in this life-span -

- so "free will" is, of course, something of a misnomer

bagl

Reiki All Around,

All Blessings,

Firekeeper

"It is like saying to the Holy, I choose to live like I choose to live, YOU make it GOOD for me. That is disrespectful, and spitting in the eye of the Holy. You choose what you want. The Holy gives it to you."

Dear Finality,

You've got that right sister. Not quite a Gestault statement but I'm hearing you.

But I do have bit of a problem with :
"In this message, I use the term Holy to include all our guides, angels, helpers, counselors, etc. that are not visible to us. They all have to obey this law. That the will of the human is paramount. Not one of them including the Holy can counteract, the human will. Your human will dictates to the Holy what is what in YOUR life."

That may be all well and true in it's purest form. But how many people have we run acrost that assume that any entity that comes onto their radar screen are guides, angels, helpers, counselors, etc. For sure there will be people reading this post but not responding thinking "yep, been there, stepped in that".

And worse the one's who are not yet savvy to such deceptive interactions.

Namaste,
Michael

Otoharo!

Michael,

I am just now reading your post. I do not quite understand what you are saying in your last paragraph. Will you say more, please? Perhaps, what you are pointing out to me is that there are unseens who do not represent the Holy. It does take discernment of energy. and this learning is somewhat a hit and miss process. As Lazaris said when he was teaching the using of intuition. If intuition works it was intuition, If it does not work, it was not intuition. We, personally have to learn to discern which it is.

finality

Finality,

/*\ Namaste :-}}

- you wrote: "You choose what you want. The Holy gives it to you."

- so, this is what Janis was singin about: "oh lord won't you buy me a mercedes benz, my friends all drive porsches I (you) must make amends. Worked hard all my lifetime...."

- the 'you'(meaning some holy) added, of course.

>;-}}

- btw, do you always get what you chose??

>:-}}

- if not?? Why not, do you think?

- remember, as we have our own agendas so do entities of the other realms such as bodhisattvahs (their agenda being to aid the enlightenment of all sentient beings - which does not mean give sentient beings what they choose for what we choose is not always enlightened - bagl)

Reiki All Around,

All Blessings,

Firekeeper

Dear Finality,

I could say more but you pretty much nailed it.

Namaste,
Michael

Otoharo!

Firekeeper,

Your refernces to choice are not what I was saying. When I worked with Coll in the 70's and 80's, he was adamant that people not pray for him. He maintained that God has already given him everything, it is now up to him to do with it what he will. It took a long time to grasp his meaning. I learned it is never necessary to beg God. We only request. And requesting is merely giving notice to what we are choosing. In other words, the abundance is already there. It takes choice to activate it. We precipitate it with choice. Coll, by the way, came here voluntarily, he had already left earth as a resident. Coming here put him in jeopardy of losing what he had gained (as I did).

One's High Self has an objective for this lifetime. As long as we meet that objective we are on our plan. Otherwise, we do what we desire. (I haven't stopped yet to consider what else I might desire, I am on such a roll with what I have going)

Choice is a power. It sets a power in motion. It is not like a fantascy.

finality

finality,

/*\ Namaste :-}}

- it is 'desires' that keep us trapped in the cycle of death and re-birth

- choice? In Samsara it seems very 'real'

- actually it is Illusion.

Reiki All Around,

All Blessings,

Firekeeper

Otoharo!

Firekeeper, we really are poles apart. The human will which is where choice comes from is paramount in the life of that human.

finality

finality,

/*\ Namaste :-}}

- actually, we are on exactly the same ship, so to speak.

>:-}}

- also known as the cycle of death and re-birth

- yes, Ego has great investment in 'will'.

>:-}}

- and it is willful ego that leads us down the garden path

>:-}}

Reiki All Around,

All Blessings,

Firekeeper