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Big Shift

posted at 11/5/2004 2:26 PM
ID# 78891
Otoharo!

Some recent discussions have brought this subject back to mind and as most new people do not read back messages, I have developed an inner push to speak again.

During the year 1997-8, I lived on an island where I knew no one, and where I could 'bloom' myself. While there, I fell and had to spend hours daily flat of my back. It was Reiki on continuously. I began having visions. The first ones showed chaotic activity of people going through an acute situation (brought about by this shift). After this vision was over, I said aloud, if we know all of this why don't we make preparations? So then the visions, daily, were people planning. Each day, we seemed to gain more effeciency of the plans to meet this crisis.

Another source is a book written by , that is dictated by, St. Germaine in the 80's, I think. I have owned it ten years at least. It is Earth Birth Changes. It describes the actual changes and effects on humanity and civilization. This book is actually the group meetings of a group of people whose ancient history is from Atlantis. They met in order to ask questions of him through the woman who channeled him. These activities were recorded and published. I enjoy reading it all. Their questions cover most of the ground that people still ask about. In this book, he shares the history of other planets at a time when star wars were rampant, planets were in rebellion, some destroyed, some conquered, etc. Earth at that time was peopled by the earliest primatives only. Orions landed here to conquer and control these humans. Atlanteans including St Germaine and the one who came to be called Maya. He tells all this. How he lived on a very large planet where humans attained a hieght of 25 feet and lived 500 years. They could learn alot in that length of a lifetime. etc.

He also answered questions about earth now and how we can meet the big shift. He is very uplifting to read. His knowledge is helpful to me.

In the overall universe plan, these planetarian rebellions and conquering are not allowed. They are always against universal plan. When the great rebellion affected earth is when the universe creator here decided to incarnate on earth. That was the man Jesus. I am the source of this insight.

Another source are the HEB's. If you have read the book New Revelation, you know who HEB's are. If you have heard me tell about my ancient history, you know. If you read Urantia you will find the story of those humans who have reached evolution to the highest level. These are HEB's. That is short for Highly Evolved Being.

I think I will post this much and continue.

re: Big Shift

posted at 11/5/2004 3:38 PM
ID# 78900
This is a reply to: 78891
In Urantia, is described the lay out of all of creation. See it as horizonal with everything revolving around a center that HEB's call the Center of Being. Around this center are the seven milky-ways. You have likely seen an artists pictrue or pictures of nebula from astronomy. These seven milky-ways are the only inhabited parts of creation. Wherever there are sun systems with planets like ours that can sustain human life, it is to be found there.

These milky-ways inscribe a huge elipse around the Center of Being. Direction is absolute. As we circle it takes 2,600,000 earth years to complete. We are now rounding the southeast corner beginning the long pathway towards the north. It the moment we round the bend and come in direct view of the center of Being, we will experience that force in a way that we have not known for 2,600,000 years. In fact, humans will experience it for the first time, as I understand it. Earth, however knows it. She will teach us if we let her. She is a being who inhabits the body.

I named HEB's as a source. Xaris is one. She has given us a lot of information and ways to prepare. I will share what comes to mind now and if I remember more later, I will share it also. I am an HEB who volantarily got involved with ego and lost my immortality and have had to regain it along with all of you.

The human body has become contaminated with food toxins. These we need to rid ourselves of. The list is long. Milk can not be digested and must be changed by organisms. Yogurt, kifir, and cottage cheese (if the cheese resulted after fermentation) are digestible. Goat milk is far more easily digested than cow milk. In our state it is illegal to buy unpasturized goat milk. So we are breaking the law to obtain healthy food!

Animal food is no longer useable.

Fresh greens amd vegetables are essential. Grow your own on organic soil without chemicals. All chemicals contaminate food. Pestacides included. Grow foods that have not been bio-degenerated. For instance beans that have not been changed are scarlet runners. Find sources of seeds of foods that have not been denatured in any way.

Steam what food can not be eaten raw. (I am steaming a whole pot of scarlet runners now. I am lazy. So I steam the whole thing and shell them after they have steamed. That way the hulls lend moisture to the steaming process. Hmmm, good).

Freeze rather than can foods if possible. High temperatures kill off beneficial things. And I leave root veggies in the ground during the winter. Cook them while fresh. Incidentally, St. Germaine said to have as much ground as possible planted in root foods that will survive the big shift.

Health food stores usually have a source of the "mushroom" which ferments black tea into Kambucha tea. Use it with green tea. The fermented tea helps the human body to release toxins. So does kifir. All starchy foods can be fermented. I have not begun to experiment with that yet. If you know how, do it. The fermenting process makes foods more usable by the body. Kraut is better for you than cabbage, etc.

Do not buy processed foods. Read the labels and you will find all kinds of chemical additives. These chemicals are very detrimental to your body.

If you have to buy food, locate organically grown and frequent farmer's markets.

Nuts are really good source of proteins. I eat at least 10 almonds at a meal unless other proteins are sufficient. Without meat, yogurt, cottage cheese, kifir, nuts, are essential. (Beware of kifir. I drank a pint one day, and broke out with raised spots on my skin that are still there though less itchy after a week's time. A cup is sufficient. Take it slowly).

I am rather saturated right now. So I will continue later.

finality

re: Big Shift

posted at 11/5/2004 4:17 PM
ID# 78904
This is a reply to: 78891
Hi Finality!

Thanks so much for posting what you have so far. I wasn't aware of this board until a few months ago, so I missed out on previous posts from you.

I remember hearing about HEB's in the Conversations with God books.

Funny you mentioned Urantia. I was in the book store about 2 months ago and the Urantia book jumped out at me. It was kind of expensive, so I didn't buy it at the time, plus after reading through some of it, it seemed a little over my head. I looked up some stuff on the net and found some universalist churches that sounded like a church that would interest me now that my views have changed so much from mainstream Christianity.

The more I read this stuff, the more I feel like I am coming home to truth.

Keep posting ;o)

Love,
Kimberlee

re: Big Shift

posted at 11/5/2004 4:35 PM
ID# 78907
This is a reply to: 78891
People speak of the Big shift as you call it in many various ways. It seems there is always someone saying it will be this year or in a few years or in 50 years. When the time arrived ti still hasn't happened.

That being said I don't neccessarily disagree it is coming about. I do think a big huge change of at least worldy proportions will occurr within my lifetime. Exactly when I can't possibly say. I never thought of this in terms of shifting dimensions.

I figure when it gets here i'll make it through whatever it may be. However, the suggestions you mention are really a good idea regardless of any dimensional shift and/or accompanying End Times.

re: Big Shift

posted at 11/5/2004 6:03 PM
ID# 78910
This is a reply to: 78904
Otoharo!

Kimberlee, I remember those feelings, too. When I read Urantia, fortunately, I could borrow it. I found it later in libraries also. When I bought mine, I also bought three tohers and sent them to my kids who probably gave them away, they have never talked about them at all, I would never ask. When first reading Urantia, one has to get used to the language. It is written by beings who are not humans and of course not natives here. They use the most correct and formal English. Also English does not have words that correctly name things, so they had to coin terms. So it is really important to read the preface until you get the hang of how they use the terms. I found the time it took to do this was time well spent. Also when reading the first section is so deep, that I would feel my mind suddenly go blank. At those times, I would mark my place, and go to a section that is narrative and read an interesting story. My favorite is of the two first animal creatures to become human and how they started us out. Delightful story. Anton and Fonta.

I have put a question to Xaris which is being delivered today to find out if my guess about when the big shift is due is correct. If she will say, I will report back. She does not work with me anymore directly, but works all the time with my friend who is meeting with her today in another town, where her channel lives. I am no longer invited to these meetings.

Welcome home. I know the feeling.

finality

re: Big Shift

posted at 11/5/2004 6:16 PM
ID# 78912
This is a reply to: 78900
I agree with you about the food, especially since I recently read "The Secret Life of Plants." What an eye-opener that was for me. HOWEVER...and this is a really big one for me.....most people who work full time and have families simply do not have the time to grow all their own food. I can't even begin to imagine it.

Processed foods are the bain of our existance, but how does one (especially people with children!) work full time, do everything else that is required by society, and grow and cook all their own organic food? I'm tired just from my work day and I don't even have children at home any more. Can't even imagine doing this while caring for young ones, running them to activities, going to P.T.A., helping with homework,etc. Boggles the mind, it does. And the people who spend an hour each way commuting to their jobs? There are only so many hours in our day. Is it only retired people who can truly eat healthy? Doesn't make much sense to me.

Oh, and then try to factor in such things as meditation and other spiritual/relaxing activities, or anything called "pleasure." No time for that at all.

Namaste,
Lionheart

re: Big Shift

posted at 11/5/2004 8:24 PM
ID# 78914
This is a reply to: 78891
Otoharo!

I have feed back from HEB's on this subject. It is not when I have said it is. The reason being what we are doing with time. Time is maliable. We flex it such that it is impossible to tell when any of this is taking place. What Xaris told us in the past was from the perspective of what we were at that time doing time. Now we are on a different course. They can not predict what we will do now. It is not soon, however.

I have further things to say while I am at it. I have been on a roll as I have said, today. I have posted just about everywhere. Tonight I am realizing that I have been in and out of time. When I am out of time, I am in the fourth dimension. When I am in fourth dimension, it is me, Serenity, who is. Now in time, I am finality. I discovered this in music. In music, I am out of time, and out of third dimension. the underlying beat of creation is what I name the Chulan beat. That is not correct. In Chulan, we were in fourth or higher dimension and the underlying beat is this that I feel now underlies all the meters, 2/4,3/4, 4/4, 6/4 ,6/8, etc. IT did not originate in Chulan.

Some of you will relate to these things i am saying.

finality

re: Big Shift

posted at 11/5/2004 8:37 PM
ID# 78915
This is a reply to: 78912
Otoharo!

Lionheart, I agree with all you say. I was there too at one time being a single mom. I do not have the answer, but a good farmer's market really helps. My daughter has found one in San Francisco. or that area. Health food stores help when they are large enough to have a large enough selection. That is also available in San Francisco. I hope you can locate something for yourself. I have seen coops also. There was one here long ago that did not include me. They could buy staples in bulk. And share those who had gardens with those who did not.

Being retired is superb. I have read that we will create that sort of life for ourselves in the new world to come by lowering the amount of money needed, so we would not have to work but a few hours. All adults work but parents can stagger their shifts so that childcare is not required. You can read about this in Urantia.

finality

re: Big Shift

posted at 11/5/2004 9:22 PM
ID# 78919
This is a reply to: 78891
Otoharo!

I have located the book that I read ten years or so ago, that gives information about the big shift from a differnt perspective. It is non-fiction. published by the Stell Group. The Name is The Ultimate Frontier, by Eklal Kueshana. First printing in 1963. On the Back cover some of what it says is:
. Evidence of a magnificent civilization that once flourished on the now-submerged continent of Lamuria in the Pacific ocean.
. The coordinated program behind the works of seeral memebers of the Brotherhood--Jesus, Moses, Buddha, Isaiah, Akhnaton, Confucius, and Lao Tzu.
. A moving story of communities that are actually living by this philosophy.
. A Master Plan dating from 4700 B.C. and involving the Great Pyramid, for establishing in October A.D. 2001, a new nation dedicated to the uplift of all mankind.

The Ultimate Frontier describes the mysteries of human existence intelligently and understandably, and may well mark the beginning of a much greater phase of Western Civilization.

finality

re: Big Shift

posted at 11/5/2004 9:41 PM
ID# 78920
This is a reply to: 78915
Still not really an answer for the "right now." Traveling to the nearest farmer's market and/or co-op isn't really a viable option for many people. Not everyone lives near enough to those to make it reasonable. Especially if you are trying to use raw/fresh food. That would need to be purchased every few days and no one I know has time for that in their everyday lives any more.

The future world is a ways off and I don't know if I'll see that in my lifetime or not. I thought we were talking about how to make our bodies better handle the shift in the very, very near future.

I'm still working my way through Urantia. I had to take a break and read some other important books. But I will finish it. You're right; the narratives make much better reading. I don't consider myself a dim bulb, but the earlier parts of the book are truly hard to understand. I couldn't have just read straight through it. Well, I could have, but I wouldn't have understood half of what I read. Had to read many parts repeatedly to get the gist of it.

Namaste,
Lionheart

re: Big Shift

posted at 11/5/2004 9:58 PM
ID# 78922
This is a reply to: 78920
I definitely see your point in your post. Not many people can take the time to do their own garden of foods.

But really I suppose it's a matter of how big a garden you'd need. Other factors like are you overeating at all, which means you could make less food as long as you're making sure you have adequate amounts so one doesn't become overfed.
The other thing is that maybe one can take little bits of time to get it started instead of making it one project done as quickly as possible so we can go on with our lives.
It's like excercise. How many folks say they don't have time for it when they really do, they just don't want to give up entertainment time to do so?
Now i'm no gardener myself. But how much time is really required? I would think that once started it wouldn't be too hard to keep up. Maybe a little bit of time daily. Bring the kids outside with you so they can learn if they want to or just play where you can see them and still get it done.
Don't get me wrong, I do understand what being busy is and how children can magnify the whole thing. These are just possible suggestions. Perhaps think about how much time your various daily activities really take.Obviously somethings can't just be tossed aside. But perhaps analyzing your time expenditures and seeing if there is a way you can better budget your time to be able to include such things. After all, it's really for one's health. But I agree some folks just won't be able to find the time to do it (relaxation time is important as well). And I would think that once you got it going it would decrease the outflow of cash too.
Also as writing this I'm thinking maybe one can perhaps use such a garden for inbetween when one makes trips to the farmer's market or a health food store.
And keep in mind that the more people who use such things as organic grocery stores, the more convenient they will become. More will open up. Older store chains will carry more organic items since that is what is in demand etc. I think in terms of what we eat we're getting so much more information nowadays that the food industries are going to change.

re: Big Shift

posted at 11/6/2004 9:39 AM
ID# 78935
This is a reply to: 78900
Root crops are easy...set a bale of straw over them before winter freeze and you can dig them any time. Used to grow enough to feed 4 adults and 3 children. A few minutes each day was all that was required. Those few minutes were a great time for meditaion. The children had chores to do in the garden. They felt proud and reponsible for the families well being. A feeling children often lack in this modern society. An apartment deller friend gardens at a farm. She rents the space....pays with produce.

Most illness would never take root in our bodies if we ate the food God gave us. We were not designed to eat from a chemistry set. Ivan asked me what it as that I used to clean the walls. I told him...tsp, trisodium phosphate. He said, "I looked at cereal today. Thought Wheaties would be pretty safe. I looked at the ingredients. It said tri sodium phosphate. I thought that was what you cleaned with so I didn't buy any." Yep, processed foods......real good for you. If you can't go organic.....at least go for fresh. Eat foods with life force. We need the life force to make use of the vitamins and minerals.....it all works together.

blackearth

re: Big Shift

posted at 11/6/2004 12:53 PM
ID# 78939
This is a reply to: 78922
Otoharo!

Conflagration, when a man tries to help a woman think through a viable schedule of time to do all the things a woman who also a mother has to do, is like trying to hold pudding in a collandar. It just won't make it. Too much falls through the holes.

finality

re: Big Shift

posted at 11/6/2004 12:55 PM
ID# 78940
This is a reply to: 78935
Otoharo!

Blackearth, you are always a breath of fresh air.

finality

re: Big Shift

posted at 11/6/2004 3:28 PM
ID# 78945
This is a reply to: 78939
Ah hah, finality! You are so correct. But most women are really aware of this and we sort of say, "okay dear" and go on with what we know.

I broke and sprained my ankle once, when I still had a 9 year old, a 3 year old and 1 year old toddling around. My husband came home and made dinner (for 3 days in a row) did some laundry (not folded) and did a really lousy job of mopping the floor--no rinsing. He never did any of those things normally. I then heard him announcing loudly to his (all male) coworkers, that it didn't seem so hard to him. It was just a matter of organization. Mind you, this is a man with NO organizational skills whatsoever.

I was furious. I said, "Trying doing it on a day when you have 3 kids sick and have to go to two different doctors (15 miles away--long story) and somebody needs stuff "right now" for a school project they knew about last week, but you didn't....and still get the dinner, the laundry, etc. I did that one day last week." Not so easy, buddy. He apologized, but he never really got it. When I was sick, the most I could get from him was to make sure the children got fed, and bedtime was adhered to (because he couldn't take it if they stayed up any longer---he had a headache.)

I appreciated any effort that he made....but I didn't appreciate the attitude of (unearned) superiority.

It's okay, Mr. Conflag. I am luckily not a mother with young children any more, but I was thinking in terms of those many who are, because I have been there. When I was staying at home with them, I could have handled this organic gardening/all natural, fresh foods thing. But not as a WORKING mom of three. NO way.

Lionheart

re: Big Shift

posted at 11/6/2004 5:13 PM
ID# 78947
This is a reply to: 78939
I wasn't suggesting that it was set up so the female of the relationship was the one doing the additional work.

Actually what was going through my mind at the time of posting was that both parents were working, and that both had an equal share of responsibilities involving the home.

re: Big Shift

posted at 11/6/2004 5:24 PM
ID# 78948
This is a reply to: 78945
Please see other post. :/

And additionally keep in mind that as a male I spent the majority of my first year living with my girlfriend being the domestic one. I can't say i'm mr. recipe but i'm not kitchen incompetent. I can do laundry and fold it , though admittedly i suck at folding i do put forth the effort and even now that I'm employed one of my household responsibilities is still doing laundry that due to financial situation gets piled up so i'm doing 4-6 loads that require me to have to go to a laundromat and lug all this crap with my back problems. I understand what clean is and do my best to achieve this goal when straightening up the house. Can't say i have children but i have two dogs and a cat that need me to make sure they get fed, get to go outside. Need to be watched to make sure they aren't doing things they aren't supposed to, and need my love and affection. Yes children may be more complicated. But i think the two are alot closer than folks think.

Additionally if i'm lost i enjoyably excercise my ability to ask for directions and I also put the toilet seat down when i'm done. :/

re: Big Shift

posted at 11/6/2004 5:54 PM
ID# 78950
This is a reply to: 78947
That would be great, but as finality and I both know, it is not like that in the majority of homes. In mine, even now that the kids are grown, I work and still do all the housework, nearly all the cooking (except when he decides to do the macho thing of "grilling" or we go out), and the laundry and the shopping.

I know that some men do a lot more and this is a slow change. I have read the recent stats, though, and there is still a large disparity in the amount of household work and child care done by males and females, even in the younger, more enlightened marriages. There are exceptions to everything, of course, and I've met some of these men. My kudos to them and to you. But let's not assume it's the norm.

And now that finality and I have ruffled all the male feathers, I will bow back out. I was just looking at the amount of time and work involved in doing the "healthy" food thing and knowing that it would never have worked in my house....even if I had given up all "entertainment" of which I had very little anyway. It requires a great committment and change of lifestyle for the whole family. Not necessarily a bad thing, of course, just not easy for the typical family.

Namaste,
Lionheart

re: Big Shift

posted at 11/6/2004 6:53 PM
ID# 78951
This is a reply to: 78950
That which you referr to falls under the category of "not possible". Which I believe was also mentioned in my original post.

re: Big Shift

posted at 11/6/2004 10:41 PM
ID# 78959
This is a reply to: 78951
????? Ooops, sorry, I'm lost. What is it that's not possible? I seem to be in a fog at the moment. (Just got finished with my 5 person Reiki share and I went last. Mind is out in la-la land somewhere, LOL!)

Namaste,
Lionheart

re: Big Shift

posted at 11/7/2004 10:12 AM
ID# 78964
This is a reply to: 78891
finality,

Hi.

How many lifetimes does it take to become a HEB?

Cheers,

RC

re: Big Shift

posted at 11/7/2004 11:57 AM
ID# 78967
This is a reply to: 78891
finality,

Hi.

You do, of course, see the inherent difficulties with using yourself as a 'source' to 'prove' your own position.

;)

Cheers,

RC


re: Big Shift

posted at 11/8/2004 10:50 AM
ID# 78985
This is a reply to: 78967
Otoharo!

RC., there was only one very tiny little item that I referred to myself as source. I mean very tiny.

finality

re: Big Shift

posted at 11/8/2004 10:53 AM
ID# 78986
This is a reply to: 78985
RC., In fact you are right. I should have said I could verify something, I was not the source of it. Thanks.

finality

re: Big Shift

posted at 11/8/2004 12:30 PM
ID# 78993
This is a reply to: 78891
HI there,

I did hear on the radio on Art Bell about creatures the size of a small giraffe walking around a UFO that was spotted. As you spoke of tall beings who live to be 500 years old.

good luck during the shift,

peace,

prosperity