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Otoharo!

I understand intellectually that time and earth and ego are all tied up here. I just had a comprehension.

In the past week or so, I have suffered severe skin itch due to my overdoing kifir. I was supposed to drink a cup. I drank a pint instead which brought on this reaction. I remarked, that's me! Always whole hog! M. says, it's ego.

That was weeks ago. Today it hit me. I can not longer characterize myself as being one who goes whole hog! It is not me that does that, it is ego. Well, duh!

Within this same time period, I have complained that M. no longer calls me up to share her great insights, etc. I really miss this. She has been cautioned by Xaris, however, that she must not share these with anyone. Not her family, not me. The reason being, now that she is out of time, we are not. We still have to have time.

This morning when I reported back to M. that I caught on just now that it is not me who is whole hog but ego. I thought is was something that it took me this long to catch on.

She simply remarked, Time.

Again, it took a moment to sink in. Oh, that is why I still need time. It takes time for insight to sink in!

And I have all the time I need! As we all do.

finality

Hi Finality,

Ah, the ego. It is cunning in its ways. Watch what it serves up the mind. Yes, I suppose it does serve a purpose and I don't intend to be all negative about it.....but, it is a very big distracter and pulls our minds away from truth. It knows not love, but is fear based. It protects itself by offering mis-perceptions and keeps us going in circles.

After all of the reading I have done, I'm pretty sure that ego was a gift from the lizzies so they could feed off the energy that ego creates. Big ego, big reactions, lots of energy. Hmmm.

Kimberlee ;o)

Hi Kimberlee!Why separate yourself from ego by blamig it,"hate" it.Embrace ego,evolve ego,educate ego,Love ego and integrate ego into a Whole human beeing, you!!
Love
Ingewald

Otoharo!

Sanning, perhaps you are not aware of the definition of ego of which I am referring.

finality

Otoharo!

When Lazaris introduced the subject of the coming times, he said our thoughts would materialize immediately. We are not ready yet for this. We wonder if that car is going to hit us, wham! I wonder what it would be like to-- wham!

The big dictionary has three columns down each large page. Time takes up two columns. In the real world, there is only now and infinity , unlimited nows. We have past present and future. Learning to stay in the now is a first step in climbing out of the time world. We are living all our lives simultaneously.

I am especially glad to have time when it comes to feeling pain. It is easier to endure hurt, when it does not hit us full blast at one whack. We can feel it awhile. It calms down. Later we feel a bit more. Etc. this allows us to assimilate or to dissipate our experience. Even years later some of it rears its head again. Time really helps. even lifetimes later, we may feel more of it.

I am coming to realize, it is pain that holds us in time. when life is painless, it is safe to live in the real world where results are instantaneous.

finality

Hi Ingewald,

Why separate myself from ego? Because ego is not truth. Wholeness is truth

According to A Course in Miracles, the mind has two teachers, ego and spirit. Ego is fear based and spirit is love based. Ego offers only what it knows, the past, and keeps us stuck in patterns of mis-truth until we awaken and choose to align our mind back with spirit and truth.

We can "evolve" the mind into "wholeness" by being "aware" of how ego works and recognizing who are mind is aligned with when making conscious choices.

Kimberlee

Otoharo!

I am still receiving more comprehension of the value of time. The simple reason, that I am still living in a human body in the third dimension, is that I just could not face up to the pain of my remorse over messing around with ego, causing an ego which was negative and losing my immortality. What a lot of time that has taken! At least 20,000 years.

M. says that moving into wholemindedness would make the difference. I'm not real sure what that means. any ideas?

finality

No i am not aware, please inform me.
Love
Ingewald

"Because ego is not truth. Wholeness is truth!"Beloved,how can anything be outside Wholeness? Again,Why separate your self from ego??
Love
Ingewald

Hi Inglewald,

Perhaps you could enlighten me on your definition of ego so that I can better understand what you are sharing with me?

Kimberlee ;o)

Ingewald,

/*\ Namaste :-}}

- yes, there are all sorts of definitions of Ego. Some are more widely accepted (Judeo-Christian derivatives such as Freudian, Jungian, Rogerian, or variants thereof)

- or a Buddhist interpretation or Hindu or Muslim ?? etc, etc which millions more may espouse

>:-}}

- while some others seem to be rather more "personalized" definitions

>:-}}

- I, too, do not know to which 'definition' Finality has alluded

>:-}}

- however, in the Bardo the only concern one has about Ego, afterall, is whether the attachments formed during life via Ego are so numerous and deceiving that we cannot help but be re-incarnated, again.

bagl

- what a "ride" it is!!

Reiki All Around,

All Blessings,

Firekeeper

Otoharo!

Firekeeper,

I will explain the definition of ego I use. I was aware of all those definitions you mention when Xaris told us the story of what ego is. She called it an experiment. It was developing among humans while I still lived in Chulan. At the time I decided to split, I also decided to experiment with this ego humans were bringing about. Since I was an HEB at that time, my playing around with it made it more negative.

As I comprehend it, we were born with two hemispheres in the brain. One was to be a specialist in the mundane and routine affairs, while the other was to be the creative part. The specialist half, is where ego came to be. It was intended to be tool, but the negative fooling around with it, it took on an antagonistic flavoring.

Lazaris observed that it was to be our assistant. But we, being lazy, left decisions up to this assistant which did not have the decision making capacity. This caused it to resent its host and became antagonistic.

All these concepts, indicate the self of a person as always being different from ego. In some Eastern writings, ego is synonymous with self. Probably the mass of humanity feel themselves as the ego.

Now that our brain hemispheres are becoming one, there is no place for ego to reside. Plus, earth chose not to allow ego to exist in the world after the shift.

It will take time for ego in humans to fade out of our memories, as we pass it on to our offspring. But it no longer exists except in our thought patterns. As we release our thought of it, it will fade out.

finality

Also, the Course in Miracles discussions regarding ego are from the same angle I have discussed.

finality

finality,

/*\ Namaste :-}}

- thanks for the added notes.

- yes, we are born with two hemispheres of the brain. However there is also the corpus callosum which allows the two hemispheres to communicate and interact - and most people are more dominant in one hemisphere - but both hemispheres contribute in some way to almost all 'cognitive' functions (motor and sensory functions being rather more lateralized). The right and left hemispheres may have some "cognitive activities" in which they are more dominant or primary (left hemisphere for language in most of us, for example) but the right hemisphere also has important language function duties.

- as for your description of Ego being a 'tool"?? this sounds as if it is (was) some sort of separate entity that came to live with us and turned out to be a not so pleasant "boarder"

>:-}}

- to say Ego actually is in a hemisphere is actually very similar to early Freudian thought - that the Id and Ego and Super Ego actually were located in brain structures.

- except for the few classical Fruedians left in the world this no longer appears to be a supportable view. And even many of them (us and them?? bagl) will accede that the olde theory has passed its usefulness.

- as for what Ego is? I would offer that we are capable of redefining, re-working, reshaping, etc Ego - not an easy task but not beyond our Mindfulness capabilities if we make the effort - and in so doing we can come to glimpse the Illusory nature of "seeing thru the eyes of Ego"

>:-}}

- so, "Ego is Us" to some extent, at least in Samsara. And yes, sometimes it seems as if we "act on ego alone"

- or "let ego have its way", so to speak. But this, I would offer, is simply a cop-out; eschewing responsibility for our MIndfulness (or lack thereof)

>:-}}

Reiki All Around,

All Blessings,

Firekeeper

FK & Finality!

I always wondered "how" ego was created and "what for". I have learned most of what I know about ego from A Course in Miracles. It has been very helpful in acknowledging how ego works and how to best live in peace with it.

I kind of see ego like a bank of past memories. But it does take on a power of its own sometimes and only seems to limit us when doing so. If all you have to offer is "past" stuff, then ego simply offers repeated patterns of history.

"Being mindful" of how we are wired is very helpful in making conscious choices with better awareness.

Was ego given to us after our creation, or was it part of our original makeup?

Kimberlee

Kimberlee,

/*\ Namaste :-}}

- I would offer that Ego has 'evolved' as we have.

- besides, what we might say Ego is also a lot of 'projection'

bagl

Reiki All Around,

All Blessings,

Firekeeper

FK!

Yes, I agree, it is a lot of "projection".

I suppose it plays its part in the dualistic mind?

Kimberlee

Otoharo!

Kimberlee, I purposely left this information out until someone asked for it. As an HEB, we observed humans as primatives. After UFO's brought aliens in, who settled in Atlantis, some of them settled elsewhere with the purpose to control these primative peoples. We were sorry that we could not have prevented this invasion from happening. It was after this that ego began to develop among the primatives. It took about 500 years to develop. We observed that it was an experiment. Had I not messed with it and caused a negative reaction within ego, perhaps it would still function as it was designed to function. It would be a valuable assistant.

Once I had the experience of this (in 1996). I had been through the window as Xaris called it, and was in a state of beingness, driving the car to run errands. I sensed something beside me, directing me. As we rounded the square, and came to a certain turn off, I heard from it, "groceries". I realized ego was taking me through my checklist of errands I was out to run.

That was a good lesson for me.

finality

Hi Finality!

"After UFO's brought aliens in, who settled in Atlantis, some of them settled elsewhere with the purpose to control these primative peoples. It was after this that ego began to develop among the primatives. It took about 500 years to develop. We observed that it was an experiment."

So the aliens implanted ego to control us?

I have heard this in recent readings on ET's. That they gave us their mind so they could control us. And I also read that the lizzies had messed with our DNA to stupify us "if you will". So, as we awaken, DNA is re-activated and we enlighten?

Gosh, lately I have become a bit paranoid about all this manipulation. At one time I thought humans were a lot higher on the food chain than what I have come to grips with of late.

Kimberlee ;o)

Kimberlee,

/*\ Namaste :-}}

- although humans have the very strong 'habit' of dualistic thinking (some of this relating to the evolution of our brains with two primary hemispheres - some of it being learned culturally - and some due to ignoring the process of looking at the box from outside the box))

>:-}}

- there are those who might suggest that the brain and mind are not "inherently' dualistic - there are 5 primary lobes of the brain, afterall - left and right temporal, left and right parietal, left and right occipital, etc, etc)

>:-}}

- sooooo, one may 'think parietally' or 'temporally' or 'occipitally' or 'frontally', etc.

- rather more multi-faceted than dualistic, it seems to me.

>:-}}

- so, there are some who do not 'automatically' think in dualisms or work at breaking this habitual pattern; those who sometimes are referred to as 'free thinkers"

>:-}}

- how does one 'think parietally'??

- Mindfully, of course.

bagl

Reiki All Around,

All Blessings,

Firekeeper

Kimberlee,

Hi.

Paranoid? Is that 'popular paranoia' or 'clinical paranoia'? or?? 4th density paranoia? or?

:)

I find it difficult, at best, to get 'paranoid' over potentials with miniscule probabilities of having happened or similarly small chances of ever happening.

Now, let us suppose that is Ego speaking. But, if I know that Ego knows that I know that Ego knows that I know that Ego knows that.................

lol

- to quote a favorite of mine: "what, me worry?"

Cheers (with tongue sometimes in cheek but less often in check)

RC

RC!

3rd density paranoia!

Poor choice of words I suppose.

I try to approach these new truths with discernment.

It's just a little weird sometimes.

Cheers!

Kimberlee

Kimberlee,

Hi.

Truths?? What are those??

As I recall this is Samsara - realm of Illusion.

:)

I will admit, of course, that some 'truths', more than others, seem more likely to help me through till it is time to face the Bardo again (at which occurrence all bets are off)

Cheers,

RC

RC!

Ya know, the BIG TRUTH, God consciousness truth.

Yes, I acknowledge this realm is illusory.

For now, I seek knowledge, and truth takes on different form from one moment to the next as I sift through a lot of perspectives on truth.

Kimberlee ;o)

Kimberlee,

Hi.

I am, as are some others, not convinced that Enlightenment is the same as achieving god-consciousness (whatever that is). God has an all to 'personal' connection to human-thinking; to many projections of Ego, etc onto some 'deity'; too much Illusion about 'god'

I mean how many people would agree that the 'god' of the Jews is the same as the god of the muslims is the same as the god of the buddhist, etc etc.

Not that this really matters "in the end" - it only seems to matter in Samsara and we certainly can't seem to get it straight here.

;)

Cheers,

RC