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In other words...

posted at 1/31/2005 9:55 PM
ID# 81165
I have come to admit that I have developed a gift for clairvoyance. I am able to touch peoples hands and see things, touch objects and see things. I have a problem with the word Psychic. I know it sounds silly but I just cannot call myself this. Is there another way of saying what I am able to do so that I am not looked at like a wacko by the people I know? My husband just sort of nods his head and is accepting but skeptical on such things.

So Clairvoyant, Psychic, anything else that I might be abit more comfortable with? I want to use my gifts but I don't want people to be uncomfortable with me.

Love and light,
Tracey

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posted at 1/31/2005 11:42 PM
ID# 81167
This is a reply to: 81165
Intuitive

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posted at 2/1/2005 1:11 AM
ID# 81170
This is a reply to: 81165
I think we can come up with more than one term that is not either of those.

But what happens when they ask you what these other terms mean?

If you're clairvoyant then tell folks you're clairvoyant. Sure you might be looked at as a flake. But if you're legit then i think those you come into contact with will treat you as the real deal not some wannabe flakey folk.

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posted at 2/1/2005 6:22 AM
ID# 81171
This is a reply to: 81165

Hi Tracey
Caroline Myss calls heself an intuitive healer.
That sort of fits for you as well dosn't it?
Namaste

Rob
Truth is not a property of language because language has not been able to express abstract ideas as efficiently as concrete items

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posted at 2/1/2005 9:27 AM
ID# 81174
This is a reply to: 81165
tracey,

Hi.

So, what do you see? What do you learn? If you have to label yourself anything consider what it is you do. Simply 'seeing' things does not make you a healer. An investigator perhaps, but not a healer. If what you see is shared and those with whom you share the information benefit? Then one might say they might have done some sort of 'healing'.

But, do you do anything beyond the clairvoying? :)

What you are exploring is probably not something most people are comfortable with or are likely to be any time soon. Clairvoyant is about as general a label as I can think of. Or perhaps a "sensitive'? Or 'intuitive'?

There is also the matter of 'permission' here as well. To go around 'reading' people without first asking is, for me, problematic. And, you may find some who will call it intrusive. So, if you are 'getting messages' randomly, so to speak, then developing mindfulness over your apparent developing gifts seems important.

Good luck.

Cheers,

RC


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posted at 2/1/2005 10:50 AM
ID# 81183
This is a reply to: 81165
What you have is called "psychometric ability".

Psychometry is a psychic skill that involves the handling of objects in order to pick up information about that objects history or the events or emotions of people connected with that object.

I think this ability can bleed over into touching people, too.

The novel I wrote had a character who had this ability - and couldn't shut it off.

If you find you can't shut it off, you may need to find someone who can teach you how. How you find such a person, I have no idea. :) But I think it's important to do so, so that you can live a semblance of a normal life.

Celt

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posted at 2/1/2005 12:08 PM
ID# 81187
This is a reply to: 81165
tracey,

/*\ Namaste :-}}

- one term somewhat loosely applied to those who can tell the history, etc of objects by touching or holding them or telling something about those who might have been in possession of the object is Geomancer (geomancy)

- geomancy is a form of 'sensing' and falls within the broad field of clairvoyance (the ability to sense or detect 'objects', etc beyond the range of the (5)physical senses)

- some clairvoyants acquire information that someone else might get thru divinaiton methods (which frequetly means some sort of tools and 'system' are employed)

- however, I might offer that before 'calling' yourself anything the gifts you feel are emerging might be further deveolped such that there is more certainty and regularity about what you are 'sensing'

- I also agree with RC about the permission issue (but then I hardly have to say that)

bagl

- enjoy the exploration

Reiki All Around,

All Blessings,

Firekeeper

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posted at 2/1/2005 12:51 PM
ID# 81189
This is a reply to: 81165
Hi Tracey,
That is interesting. Have you ever been to a psychic or clairvoyant? My first major teacher was a clairvoyant and amazing. I am still in awe of her. She also is an amazing healer only does it for close family and friends.
It's not uncommon for family to be skeptical. In fact, it's the norm.
good luck,
Prosperity

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posted at 2/1/2005 1:11 PM
ID# 81190
This is a reply to: 81174
I totally agree with you on the permission aspect. I only open up and let the images flow at the times when I am asked or I have asked them and get permission. I don't go around doing this willy nilly :)

I have just found that this is something that I can do and would like to learn more, develop this talent and use it to help in whatever way it can.

Thank you for thoughts.

Love and light,
Tracey

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posted at 2/1/2005 1:15 PM
ID# 81191
This is a reply to: 81183
Hi Ho!
Thank fully, as of now, I can turn this off. My Reiki two teacher, right after my attunement, handed me a ring and said "read it". I looked at her like she had two heads but did it. Since then I have found that it now extends beyond objects and can do this with holding hands.

Last night I had a very new experience with this. There was a man in my living room whom I sort of recognized. I acknowledged him and he left. I felt the need to touch a picture I have that he was near. In doing so I received a very detailed message for my husband.

Lvoe and light,
Tracey

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posted at 2/1/2005 4:22 PM
ID# 81192
This is a reply to: 81174
RC
The permission thing.
Ok a scenario. You meet some one, perhaps for the first time.
You look at them,they look sad, they are crying. What infomation have you gleaned from that?. Wherever you then take that further is where the permission thing would come in.
You shake hands, when you shake hands infomation comes to you (This happens even if we are not aware of it.)
The infomation also comes to us thru auditry, visual and smell as well as no doubt many other ways as well (It is now thought that we could have at least 21 senses)
So to ask for infomation to make an observation would mean in those cases to shut off all of the ways we gain infomation in the first place.

I am with you on the permission thing if the case is one where you go around scanning people or touching them, to see what is wrong with them (If anything), but at times the infomation is just so there in front of your face, is it not really what you do with it?

Namaste

Rob
Truth is not a property of language because language has not been able to express abstract ideas as efficiently as concrete items

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posted at 2/1/2005 5:07 PM
ID# 81193
This is a reply to: 81165
Otoharo!

Tracey, you are a feelings person. It is feelers who have this spiritual gift of knowing what you feel with your hands or even what you sense in another persons aura, or even what you sense about the aura so to speak of earth. If this is also combined with seeing, then it is clairvoyance also. Those are two different spiritual gifts. My training in this was from Inner Peace Movement in the 70's and 80's. There are also the gifts of Intuition, and Prophecy. I am a Prophetic/Clairvoyant myself.

That is because I am an air/earth person, or Prophetic/Clairvoyant person. You are a water/earth person, or Feeler/Clairvoyant person.

Every person is psychic. Every person has spiritual gifts. Every person can find out what theirs is. I am trained in giving this information.

So all you have to do is say to a person, you are, too. The only difference is the amount of conscious use that you have made and others ignore theirs.

Reiki as an energy opens us up to who we really are. This allows us to tune in to those spiritual gifts that we also possess. You are a choice person, never downplay who you are. Rather upplay the other person.

finality

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posted at 2/2/2005 9:24 AM
ID# 81239
This is a reply to: 81192
rob,

Hi.

I am making a distinction between the physical senses which are largely "autonomic" and the 'psychometric' senses to which Tracey refers. I feel the distinctions are important.

However, let me ask you this? Would you put your arms around a stranger who is crying without some preface to this action?

Cheers,

RC

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posted at 2/2/2005 9:45 AM
ID# 81242
This is a reply to: 81239
Hi Rc
Of course I wouldn't. I would perhaps go and talk to the person and then take it from there, but to just go up and hug could be looked at as assult.

The psychometric senses how ever can kick in with any touch.
Wherever it be an accidental touch, like some one bumps into you, or even a handshake, or perhaps in shop situation where the assisitant and you make physical contact whilst change is being given etc. If I remember correctly Tracey has posted about this sort of thing happening to her in the past.

Like I have said,with permission, I do agree with you on the deliberate aspect of what is being described, it's just the non delibirate that it can't be put to.

Namaste

Rob
Truth is not a property of language because language has not been able to express abstract ideas as efficiently as concrete items

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posted at 2/2/2005 11:21 AM
ID# 81253
This is a reply to: 81242

be
Wow.

I have and will continue to hug, touch their hand, touch their back, ask if they are all right? ask if I can do anything to help to anyone who is crying, struggling. How could I not????

Assault????????? Never. Compassion ....always.

have a great day.
Be

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posted at 2/2/2005 11:40 AM
ID# 81255
This is a reply to: 81242
rob,

Hi.

I would offer that those with psychometric gifts can learn to be mindful such that they do not 'start reading' inadvertently - at least most of the time. I would offer that it is their responsibility to do so.

Energetic, 'psychometric peeping Toms\Tonyas' are no more desireable than those who use their dense eyes

:)

Cheers,

RC

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posted at 2/2/2005 11:42 AM
ID# 81256
This is a reply to: 81165

be
I have never known what to label the gifts either. I feel that the right words of explanation come out when needed. Usually I just say... I see things...

I find that once you open yourself up to your gifts you will likely develop more than one. Have fun with the new discoveries. I also believe that everyone has these gifts. Every time I am asked to read I always tell them they already know what is wrong, what to do, what is going to happen. They will usually mention some form or another of "seeing" ability.

Have a great day
Be

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posted at 2/2/2005 11:44 AM
ID# 81257
This is a reply to: 81253
Be,

Hi.

"First" asking if one can 'help' is fine and may suffice as a preface to physical contact with someone one does not know. I would also offer that in our world it is more 'acceptible' for women to do this than men, at any number of levels. Reflects a certain pervasive sexism, I would say.

Cheers,

RC

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posted at 2/2/2005 11:57 AM
ID# 81259
This is a reply to: 81257

be
That is really to bad that men in our society have to be PC all the time. Although as one who has been groped before in a professional setting it has its merits. There are always the naughty ones who spoil the punch for everyone.

The human condition to comfort another should never be something that has restraints. Sigh.

Have a great day
Be


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posted at 2/2/2005 12:47 PM
ID# 81262
This is a reply to: 81259
Be,

Hi.

There are those who would, perhaps, prefer that we save our comforting for others. This is where asking comes in.

Yes, the grope in the course of 'the examination'. We get more and more 'seminars' on PC every year.

Cheers,

RC

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posted at 2/2/2005 3:03 PM
ID# 81272
This is a reply to: 81242
Just to insert my quick view on the topic of permission in this case. I feel that if one chooses to be open to messages that come to them then this is different from prying. Trying to intentionally glean info without permission is totally different. But if I always allow myself to be open to such things ( which personally I would and do try to do)then I am not trying to infringe upon anything. How i utilize such information would vary situation to situation. And while I would not go around huggin every sad looking person perhaps in awareness there is an issue (even if not physically apparent) I could do something as simple as smile kindly in their direction if they look towards me. But really what is the harm in asking someone if they are okay? If they show that they do not wish to be bothered then it's just time to go on. But maybe we can make a difference in someone's life exactly because we are a stranger showing kindness?

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posted at 2/2/2005 5:41 PM
ID# 81277
This is a reply to: 81259
Hi Be
There does seem to be a fine line. If it is crossed then as a man I could just be making trouble for myself, so you get to be very good at learning and observing boundries. There is nothing wrong with offering a shoulder to cry on and I do do that. It has only backfired on me once, and that is when a 3rd party (The young ladies, very drunk boyfriend, who thought I was hitting on her) It ended up ok, and he realised that it was him and the line of coke she had just snorted that had totally distressed her. Really I was in a no win situation with that one, but hey that happens.

Namaste

Rob
Truth is not a property of language because language has not been able to express abstract ideas as efficiently as concrete items

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posted at 2/3/2005 4:53 AM
ID# 81293
This is a reply to: 81183
I believe that's really the correct term as opposed to clairvoyance which is more like seeing in a location you are not physically in.

But it's really on the same level of flakeyness when viewed by others.

I feel the last bit depends on the individual. Some wish to be more open to the Universe which is usually quite against the norm.

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posted at 2/4/2005 10:17 AM
ID# 81371
This is a reply to: 81272

be
I love the way you put this.

Thanks BE

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posted at 2/5/2005 9:26 AM
ID# 81412
This is a reply to: 81272
BAGL!! Wasn't it Blanche in Streetcar Named Desire who said, "I have always depended on the kindness of strangers.”

All that aside....I agree with you. We never know when we have come across someone who is feeling that lonely and desperate. A kind smile, a sincere questioning about their well-being....it might be the only thing they found that day to lift their spirit from the basement. It's easy enough for them to refuse our kindness/compassion if they so choose. A frown back, or an aversion of the eyes. A refusal to converse. Not that hard for them to let us know they are not interested in our compassion at that moment. And then we step back in respect of their will.

Namaste
Lionheart