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Dear Reiki Cafe members;
Hope your 4th was relaxing and fun. I just had a question regarding male energy versus female energy regarding classes or groups that when a male enters does the energy seems to shift or is it just differences in opionions that seems to make the difference. Viva la difference! Yet some female teachers do not want male energy in their classes even though they claim to respect men. To me this seems discriminatory. No males? Any comments welcome.
thanks,
Peace,
Prosperity

Dear Jaguar,

Well if you can pull it off as a woman to get into a womans group then you must be a shaman of the highest order in my opionion. Do Women really act the same around men? Maybe that is the issue. Or maybe that men can sort of take over and monopolize at times. I appreciate your comments. thanks,
peace,
Prosperity

I was thinking about that this morning so to add on I would say that most likely the Goddess thing is to counter the God thing that is so ingrained in our society as God = Male so some do the Goddess thing to try to balance that.
that's all folks
peace,
prosperity

prosperity,

/*\ Namaste :-}}

- I have no problem with classes set up for women only or men only - sometimes homoeneous groups are useful

- I do have a problem when a class is advertised as open and the Teacher is not able to maintain a balance as to how he\she interacts with both genders

- sometimes female teachers can have 'issues' with female students more so than male students just as male Teachers may have more 'issues' with male students than with female students

- in either case (or some other permutation of the student-teacher gender issue)it is the Teacher's projection of his\her own Yin or Yang that is largely the culprit

>:-}}

Reiki All Around,

All Blessings,

Firekeeper

Dear Jaguar,
Good observation. Isn't there a symbol of male and female though? I was taught them. Anyway these classes seem to be taught from books that are written by females and no mention of the Goddess in the books yet the class will have a name with Goddess in it which I suppose wouldn't attract males anyway. And I also hear it mentioned "no male bashing" by these same teachers. So there seems to be a passive/agressive quality there.
Thanks for your comments.
peace,
Prosperity

Dear Firekeeper,
Namaste,
I agree that it could be the teachers own projection of their own ying/yang that is perhaps unbalanced in some way. Thank you for your insight and response! Your comments are always food for thought.
peace,
Prosperity

Hello Prosperity,

Having read "Reiki Essentials" which I liked alot by the way, I picked up lots of negative/unhealed aspects of this womans character by the way she perceived men in general. She seemed to almost shun males.
I'm not a big fan of lots of talk about "goddess" per se either.
The best description I ever read about male vs fem energy was, male energy is "perserverance" ( finishing a project, doing,action) while the feminine energy is about "being" and reflective, or taking in and accepting energy.

There is lots of duality around the thought of male/female and it seems rather unbalancing when there is a line drawn between the two. The energy rather seems to flow from one to another as we do in life.
At one moment were reflective or receiving energy and then were moving out with our energy. A nice flow and balance.

We don't get too many males at our classes but I don't see any discrimination nor do I see any male bashing. I love to see new faces at class because I believe any new person brings a new awarness of myself potentially and definately new energy that is helpful in self healing.

Blessings,
J

Dear J,

Greetings, I have never read Reiki Essentials by Diane Stein yet I have flipped through it and looked at it. She puts the symbols right out there when it was taught not to do that so I am not too impressed about that so it doesn't surprise me that she has some unhealed aspects of her character. I like the way you see the energy flow between male and females. thanks for your comments.

peace,
Prosperity

Dear J,

Greetings, I have never read Reiki Essentials by Diane Stein yet I have flipped through it and looked at it. She puts the symbols right out there when it was taught not to do that so I am not too impressed about that so it doesn't surprise me that she has some unhealed aspects of her character. I like the way you see the energy flow between male and females. thanks for your comments.

peace,
Prosperity

Otoharo!

I love this type of discussion. In Urantia, there is a description of the original creation of God, Goddess, and All That Is as the trinity. And from these three, there is the one that is like God and Goddess. The one that is like God and Alll That Is. The one that is like Goddess and All that Is. And the one that is like all three. Which gives seven types of energy.

All other physical reality reflects these seven elements.

In my personal life, I was once an HEB that chose to split my energy (there was a fad among the Pleadians of doing this). Once we were split, I continued to be enamored of the human exsistance here on earth and desired to experiment with this ego thing. Other planets did not have ego. I chose to experience this ego pattern which was designed for humans not HEB's. Thus, I got it destorted.

I mention this past history of mine in order to bring up the fact that when we split, we did so in this orderly fashion. All the maleness and the air and earth elemtns were me, and all the femaleness and the fire and water elements were hers. Thus I am basically male although I am female in this lifetime.

I see the masculine energy as patterned after that that goes out from the center of being and the female energy as that that returns to the center of being. And further that the outgoing energy is joy and the incoming energy is love. Joy is what fills the world. Love is what holds all together, the gel.

finality

Otoharo!

I might add that although I am basically the masculine energy, I have lived as a female, have children now grown, and otherwise am all female. When I learned of this division and who my soul mate is, I was unable to cope with it all. I hlpe none of you are split-offs.

finaltiy

Ehh.. I have mixed feelings about that. If some feel more comfortable being with one sex or the other in a class then so be it. But the idea of masculine energy as disturbing is pretty stupid to me. If the gals wanna have gal Reiki time, go for it. But not in a fashion or for reasons that make males look like a disease.

Well I do think that some do try to use the Goddess in a pro-feminine fashion. But niether God nor Goddess are male or female. To me it is a misunderstanding on both parts.And a misunderstanding that hmmm "eradicates" certain concepts found within the base teachings of these spiritual paths.

Even then Goddess worship itself, recognizes males in the respective pantheons.

I feel it is best for folks to become comfortable and seek to understand both sexes.

And also as my quick little blurb on modern american society. It's a bad thing to descriminate based on color or sex . You get a lil leeway with men, and it's okay to descriminate against caucasion males. Because we're not people we're white boys. : )

Also it seems that most of the New Age community is comprised of women. So guys are "not as good" or "not as intuitive". I think the view would change if more males were involved. But i do often see things as pro-female on a regular basis. I mean why learn about Wicca when you can learn about Wicca for Women specifically? Because you know the Goddess and God do care!*shrug* How often do you see specifically male related books on new age topics? They are there i'm sure, but far far more written by and specifically for women.

Dear Mr. Dave....

I can think of no one more qualified to write a male oriented New Age or Wiccan book for men than you. I say, go for it! Someone has to start.

Rock On!
Miss Roxy

Dave,

Hi,

Just to get things out of the way, New Agers are, all in all, in a pretty small minority. And, as best I can tell seem to simply meld together (spiritually) whatever they seem to feel works for them at the time (as a friend once said when asked where he went to church? "the church of what's hapening now"). lol

As for the feminine vs masculine? There are statisitics now that women are at least as likely to seek out high tech 'toys' as men and may own at least as many as their male counter parts. Not exactly the epitome of women simply being right-brained, intuitive, receptive, and passive. I mean there are at least as many women walking and driving around with cell phones jammed in their ears as men (and not any more safely, I might add). Though perhaps someone will do a study as to ear preferences between men and women when usuing the cell phone. lol

:)

As for Wicca? Men and women participate. Circles have a High Priestess and High Priest. Similarly, there were men and women in the "class" known as Druids. The Druids were typically the 'intellectual' class in olde celtic society. Though, by some accounts more men than women were involved. But, it depends on who one reads (as per usual).

lol

Generally, I prefer a balance of energies. I also know that in doing some typically male activities calling up a bit of the feminine may prove most fruitful.

Cheers,

RC

Dear RC,

Balanced energy is very important. In discussions of whether God is male or female, we tend to forget that every human has both a masquline and feminine side.

And yes, sometimes for a woman to bring out the male in herself is also a good idea.

Rock On!
Roxy

roxy,

Hi,

I will keep good thoughts that all your tests on the breast lump turn up negative.

Oh yes. Delving into the Animus is quite important for women. Delving into the Anima is, likewise, important for men.

Now, there are those who might refer to the statement "In discussions of whether God is male or female, we tend to forget that every human has both a masquline and feminine side (if this is to infer that god has masculine and feminine aspects) as a bit of heresy. lol

For myself? Humans evolved themselves into the forms they have taken under their own power, so to speak. And, Karma had no small part in the process. :)

So, not a problem for moi. I simply question the entire 'nature' and role of what the major religions describe or hold onto as god.

Cheers,

RC

My dear RC,

Thanks for the good thoughts...so far, everything looks okay.

And yes, I have to agree about questioning what religions say about God. But then, after all, religions are made by humans.

Rock On!
Roxy

Roxy,

Hi,

I am glad the news is good.

Yes, without humans there would be no religions. A few might argue that this is a good reason for the extinction of the current human race so perhaps another one can start over. Of course we'd still have to deal with our Species Karma in the second round. But, hey, maybe we'd make a bit less of a mess of things. lol

Yet, the unhealthiness I feel about it is that religions seem to take on a life of their own. Thus holy wars become more than simply people killing each other. Holy wars become justification for maiming and torturing and killing in the name of one god or another (or worse one view of the same god as opposed to another). And, I feel it is not enough to say that 'good works' are done in the name of religions. Somehow the balance seems rather lopsided; I mean it takes months and years to rebuild a city that has been reduced to rubble in a matter of a few hours or days. And it takes much longer to grow a new person than to kill one.

Hope you have a great weekend (just don't watch CNN)

lol

Cheers,

RC

RC,

"Holy War" is an oxymoron, whatever religion wages it.

Rock On!
Roxy

Roxy,

Hi,

Oxymoron is far too kind.

It is spiritual blasphemy in the extreme.

Cheers,

RC

Kundalini is a xexual energy? Does it vary in vibration from woman to man. Is there a hands on techinque to make it rise, and is it pleasurable or painful? What are the ins and outs of it anyway? Is there a book I can read on the subject which explains it, or is it an experiental thing. Maybe I'll just google it.

Jaguar,

Hi,

By Intention one may act to direct any energy toward sexuality (some with greater success, of course). lol To think of the Kundalini as merely sexual energy is to miss its overall nature by a wide margin. Perhaps if you were to read "Layayoga: The Definitive Guide to the Chakras and Kundalini" by Shyam Sundar Goswami?

Cheers,

RC

hmm, It would put that other argument to bed nicely if I understood what I was talking about, lolpmprof.

LOL No, not qualified for a book. I tend to throw out what i don't use and i'm not Wiccan (did a large amount of reading on the subject but years ago and can't remember the last time i picked up a specifically Wiccan book). But i'll take the compliment none the less. : )

If an oxymoron is the advanced stage of the Morobic Plague then I agree. LOL

And I agree with you, RC, on the subject of balanced. I also believe that the teachings of such oriented faiths have a tendency to agree.

And yeah holy wars are creepy. When i was a little chat addict i spent alot of time in a specific pagan oriented room. The things that people of a certain faith would come in and say were horrid. Hard to find peace and just carry on conversation. From these folks and from some journeying to websites and chatrooms of said religion I discovered this rather scary "theme" of the Holy War starting and the repeated, unoriginal statement of Got Armor?(speaking of course the armor of faith). Frightened the shit out of me. I was especially worried when I moved to small town ,Texas. Thought i'd actually better keep quiet for once or some alcoholic rednecks would have a field day with me.