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Four energies used by humans:

Earth: visionary, seeing relationships of words and terms, etc. Usually has clear visions with eyes closed.

air: prophetic, inner knowing, hunches, out of body most of time until learns to stay in.

water: feeling, natural healing, fluid energy, can cover the planet with energy.

fire: intuitive, clear hearing of spiritual communication, leadership, focused, powerful.

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Mind versus brain versus knowing.

Brain is the thinking apparatus. All thinking takes place here. Ego has access to everything that occurs in the brain.

Mind is in each cell of the body. It exists outside the body. We connect with mind.

Knowing is a function of the heart center (or the center behind the heart). Knowing is intuited, not thought of.

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Meditation takes place below the head center. One can reach it by "going down their elevator". One holds attention there below while the head may chatter for some time, then ceases its chatter. Live in the state of meditation as a way of shifting into fourth demnsity out of third density. Maintain this state while being reiki.

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Hi,

Actually there are five essential elements.

Cheers,

RC

Otoharo!

RC., Please list them.

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Otoharo!

In the real world, illness does not exist. In the actual world, illness is actual and we use reiki to heal it. A table in the real world is an assembly of lights. In the actual world, it is an object that will support a vase.

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finality,

Hi,

Air, Fire, Water, Earth, Ethers

Cheers,

RC

finality,

Hi,

Substituting one Illlusion for another does no one much service.

Cheers,

RC

Dear RC,

I don't know about the sickness part but as for the table, just to play devil's advocate: If a table is indeed made up of subatomic particles, which are in effect, energy, couldn't with different perception, be seen as light?

Rock On!
Roxy

Otoharo!

Thank you. Describe ethers.

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Otoharo!

RC, I do not follow you. The real world is not illusion. That is the point. In the world that is not illusion, what is ellusion in this world is light in the real world. We as young children were in touch with the real world and got programed out of it.

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finality,

Hi,

One way to think of the Ethers is as the Element within which the Cardinal Four manifest. Frankly, though, I am a little surprised that you would be asking this.

:)

Cheers,

RC

Otoharo!

We never have talked about ethers. We do talk about void.

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finality,

Hi,

The Ethers and the Void are rather different aspects of 'existence'.

:)

Cheers,

RC

Roxy,

Hi,

Ah, but the problem IS perception.

:)

Cheers,

RC

finality,

Hi,

You said, in part: "We as young children were in touch with the real world and got programed out of it." Sorry. Sounds like a lot of new age mis-information' to me.

Real world? Adult Illusion, child Illusion. Same difference. Samsara is still Samsara, afterall.

:)

Cheers,

RC

Otoharo!

RC, I assume that what you call illusion is wht we call actual as different from real. God is not an illusion.

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Dear RC,

To say this world is an illusion, doesn't that imply that there is a world that is real and not illusion?

Rock On!
Roxy

Roxy,

Hi,

Real and Unreal? That is the Illusion of dichotomous thinking.

:)

Cheers,

RC

Dear RC,

Then are you saying, then, that nothing exists? Explain your position, sir!

Rock On!
Roxy

Roxy,

Hi,

I thought my position is quite clear. :) There is more to consider (about Existence) than simply the two possibilities you mention which seem to be: that our perceptions are real and that based on those we say things are either real or unreal.

:)

Cheers,

RC

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/*\ Namaste :-}}

- in the Bon tradition there is a fifth Element: Space

>:-}}

- also, as is frequently the case with various traditions world-wide, the four Primary Elements in Bon practices have somewhat different qualitative assignements than your listing and are invoked for somewhat different work (as is the case with other traditions)

- and, of course, all these variations sometimes are leading to difficulties or confusions in sharing ideas

- so, having some notion of the other person's frame of reference can be handy

>:-}}

Reiki All Around,

All Blessings,

Firekeeper

Dear RC,

Actually, yes, I can concieve of things being real and unreal at the same time.

Rock On!
Roxy

Roxy,

Hi,

You seem to be thinking in only two dimensions: real\unreal. As an occasional vistor once noted for us: neti, neti, neti.

:)

But, if you can imagine something as 'real' and 'unreal' at the same time, what then is its state at the moment it is both real and unreal?

:)

Cheers,

RC

Otoharo!

My new assignment is to stay in the meditative state all the time. One day I was able to do that off and on all day. The next day, I played solataire all day long! The next day, back to meditative state. It takes some getting used to. I am gradually getting there. One activity that helps me is hand sewing. My hands, fingers, and eyes do it, my head seems to be just quiet. Very peaceful. Another friend of mine who works with a meditation group (whose name I have forgotten) called me today. She has returned from a four day silent retreat. Her voice sounded entirely different. Deep quality to it. So some of us are making some progress with this.

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