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playing victim

posted at 11/30/2006 9:31 PM
ID# 94695
Namaste,

I recently told someone who I have not been around much that she overqualifies herself and that's why I don't hang around with her much. She basically told me she couldn't understand why I rip her to shreds occasionally but I was just being honest. She continues to contact me and I feel like I'm in a position that I find myself in as a pattern of wondering if I want to continue a relationship with someone who thinks I'm mean. I do feel it is hurtful to do that. She said she could only teach me to my level of understanding. That felt insulting to me but I didn't say anything at the time. She calls me on my stuff and I don't play victim yet she tells me to do the same but when I do she gets wounded. And I rarely do.
Any tips would be appreciated. She seems angrey.
peace,

Prosperity

re: playing victim

posted at 11/30/2006 10:15 PM
ID# 94697
This is a reply to: 94695
Otoharo!

Some years ago the book, I think it was four assumtions by Garcia, was being referred to all the time in my group. When we can refer to the third person tense in conversation nothing ever seems so personal. In IPM, we always used third person. For example, when I observed or experienced as transaction that was hurtful or the least bit negative, we were cautioned to use third person. In other words, we would say, I learned that...................today. And refer only as if all the transaction was out there somewhere, not here with me. That is the most amazing dynamic! At the end of all meetings, even eating a meal, we made circles and related around the circle whever we wanted to share. If it were person, we learned how to make it an observation out there.

finality

re: playing victim

posted at 12/1/2006 11:36 AM
ID# 94704
This is a reply to: 94697
Dear Finality,
Otoharo. The 4 agreements I've never read if that's the book you mean. I've never heard of the 4 assumptions but it sounds good. It does require the actual practice with the 1st book. Could you give me an example of what you mean by how I could have expressed this in third person. I've probably done it but maybe not. I'm mentally handicapped in some ways.
thanks,
peace,
Prosperity

re: playing victim

posted at 12/1/2006 12:09 PM
ID# 94706
This is a reply to: 94704
Hi Prosperity
Caroline Myss's book on Archetypes may help. There is also a CD set and card deck in true Myss marketing fashion LOL.
Basically the same sort of stuff is also in the Celistine prophocy as well as in standard pyschology.

Namaste

Rob
Truth is not a property of language because language has not been able to express abstract ideas as efficiently as concrete items

re: playing victim

posted at 12/1/2006 12:23 PM
ID# 94707
This is a reply to: 94706
Dear Rob,
I believe I may have that book by Carolyn Myss. I found it at the library at a sale for 50 cents. It seemed like it hadn't even been read. I started reading it. The Celistine Prophey I've read.. about control dramas and that there are no coincidences. How does this relate to speaking in third person. Please break it down barney style.
thanks,
peace,
Prosperity