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housework vs cancer

posted at 11/8/2007 12:27 PM
ID# 98172
Dear Reiki ones,
There was a spot on CNN where the results of a 7 yr. study was discussed about how those who hate housework and don't do it much have a 30% increased risk in getting breast cancer. Alot of feminists are not happy about that, I'm sure. I wonder if it's because of the home and body being somehow connected or if it's a valid honest study. Did anyone else see it or heard of such a thing? Men can get breast cancer too.
peace,
Prosperity

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posted at 11/8/2007 5:24 PM
ID# 98178
This is a reply to: 98172
Thanks for your words, prosperity. I've not been the best of housekeepers and I truly don't give a hoot....but I do believe that stress plays a major part in "turning on" the cancer. I know from experience. If I had it all over to do, again, would I have done it differently.....I don't think so. And I can't tell you how much I've learned from it all. I'm a survivor....and so many others will learn how to be their own survivors in many different ways. But it certainly is nice to have this for an excuse, huh! Ha! I love it! Thank you for sharing, sweet one.

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posted at 11/9/2007 4:57 PM
ID# 98199
This is a reply to: 98178
Dear Pondering,
You say you're a survivor so does that mean you have beaten breast cancer? If you had breast cancer, I'm truly sorry and if you beat it then Good for you! Glad you have a sense of humor about the study and I applaud you for your honesty. I mean who likes housework? I am grateful for it though in a way as it means I have a house. So many are losing their's. Cancer just blows my mind. With all the money for cancer research, you'd think we'd have a cure but a cure would have to deal with more than a drug.
Peace,
prosperity

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posted at 11/10/2007 12:21 PM
ID# 98202
This is a reply to: 98199
Had breast cancer 1999. Been cancer free for seven years, sweet prosperity. I do believe that I brought it upon myself.....and that I learned an awfully lot from it. First, that I really wasn't paying attention to Spirit, as I thought I was and that it was just one more way to help my people....both the ones I work with and the ones that I live with. Oh, but you are so right, I do appreciate our home. Just this morning, out our back sliding doors, the land was so mystical...everything covered in frost, a mist over the fields and yet streams of pale light coming thru from the sunrise. You are so right how blessed we truly are. And that, too, that more is needed than just drugs. Isn't that partly why we believe in Reiki....Thanks for asking, Hon, you honor me. Together in peace.

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posted at 11/10/2007 7:31 PM
ID# 98209
This is a reply to: 98172
Dear Prosperity,

Clearly women have a higher incidence of breast cancer than men. I don't understand that.

Equally I don't understand why men have mammary gear in the first place. I've brought that issue up in different forums and consistently get weak dodgey downcast delivered theories that answer the question as clearly as chicka-dee-dee chatter.

Back to the original issue: female breast cancer: I think it's caused by heart chakra issue compounded by stress and toxins. Thousands of years ago humankind was matriarchal led. And did a better job of it. And more peacefully i believe.

As a group women are still "underfoot" today>.


namaste,
Michael

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posted at 11/10/2007 8:14 PM
ID# 98210
This is a reply to: 98172
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posted at 11/10/2007 9:47 PM
ID# 98213
This is a reply to: 98210
forgive me, michael....but I think you're a bag of bones....

re: bag of bones

posted at 11/10/2007 11:38 PM
ID# 98214
This is a reply to: 98213
Dear ponderings,

Now where did that come from?

I value your opinion. But it seems like you offered only the negative emotional end of a thought or opinion. Without the thoughts or concept behind it . That is not fair. I would guess that you are upset when it's done to you.

In my post i thought i expressed my ignorance the role of man nipples.

But more importantly my post was about my appreciation and fidelity for the feminine role in human history and progression. And my heartfelt endorsement to a return to a more matriarchal based system of human being. As things once were.

"Bag of bones"?? I don't know what to say to that.

Namaste,

Michael


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posted at 11/11/2007 12:25 AM
ID# 98215
This is a reply to: 98172

prosperity said on

>Dear Reiki ones,
> There was a spot on CNN where the results of a 7 yr. study was discussed about how those who hate housework and don't do it much have a 30% increased risk in getting breast cancer. Alot of feminists are not happy about that, I'm sure. I wonder if it's because of the home and body being somehow connected or if it's a valid honest study. Did anyone else see it or heard of such a thing? Men can get breast cancer too.
>peace,
>Prosperity


Dear Prosperity,

I meant to reply to your thoughts initially but somehow I fishtailed and veered into Ponderings oncoming angst. Must be the new clutch I guess. That Racer X thing again.

What you said about "I wonder if it's because of the home and body being somehow connected or if it's a valid honest study" caught me.

The home / body connection got my attention big time. Chi. I feel that I have noticed a connection there in myself and others. That theory being the stuck Chi or flow or Prana of one's living space could often be a mirror of one's inner space. Which could be a contributing factor or mirror disease if left unchecked(?)


Namaste,
Michael

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posted at 11/11/2007 12:31 PM
ID# 98220
This is a reply to: 98209
Otoharo!

I am glad you brought this subject up. It goes back to Goddess. Humankind ousted Goddess when the masculine became dominant. She returns now as we are accepting of her again. God and Goddess will both be prominant and over shadowing our affairs.

As to cancer I have shared what Lazaris said that cancer is either the desire to start life over again and this stimulates the cells to begin multipying as in the fetus, or cancer is stimulated by self hate and cells eat each other. Xatis said cancer resulted from the wish to die.

azalee

re: bag of bones

posted at 11/11/2007 2:49 PM
ID# 98225
This is a reply to: 98214
Dear Michael....because I had totally mis-judged you in the other posting....made myself reread this one, too, and once, again....I owe you an apology for calling you a "bag of bones". That was totally uncalled for.....I said it, after reading your words too quickly and feeling so cold afterwards. I realize that this had nothing to do with you nor with what you were saying....this will teach me to slow down....ponder alittle bit more....and NOT be so rude to others. I am sorry, Michael and thank you for the learning.

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posted at 11/11/2007 3:25 PM
ID# 98226
This is a reply to: 98220
Dear Micheal,
I agree with you that women are underfoot.
I also notice some women who don't think they're underfoot are often the ones who really are and just don't see it.
Blind spot. As for why men have a mammary gland, that may be because we have adrogynous DNA. Thanks for your response.
Peace,
Prosperity

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posted at 11/11/2007 4:39 PM
ID# 98227
This is a reply to: 98215
Otoharo!

I reread this and it finally hit me! Since I live alone and do not have company, I never touch housework! I do vacuum the carpet maybe once a month. I casually dusted the mantel and window sills the first time in the three years I have been here. But these details are not tied in together. Nonchallnce. I recently gave away my love seat and put in its place a pile up of foam pads and cushions in a mock couch covered with a beautiful blanket. This gave a feeling of having cleaned the living room, but all the spaces are still pilled high!

When my children were home, it was somewhat different. Now with just me, I never bother.

There is a large space in the dining room for my keyboard, and all the attrutriments of writing music on a table beside it. I moved my computer in as it is cold where it had been during the summer.

I have cd's which I am currently reviewing with plans to organize them in some kind of system where I can find what I want when I want it. consequently in the mentime, cd's are stacked on the floor beside my chair which will turn a full circle so I can tend to cd's, play them, take care of the fireplace, and turn around to the "couch" check out magazines, phone books, man the phone etc. all while in my chair.

So housework is redundant right now. Bookcases are full and over flowing. All awaits the completion of cd reorganization and that may take all winter.

Beautiful life alone!

finality

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posted at 11/12/2007 12:49 AM
ID# 98229
This is a reply to: 98172
prosperity,

Hi.

Who did this study and what axe might they have had to grind? Irregardless, it is said that cancer is an 'issue' of the heart. So is hate. Might account for a good deal whether one is talking house cleaning or doing windows.

And, the feminists with whom I am acquainted are pretty decent at keeping their abodes in Bristol fashion (with help from their partners, naturally).

:)

Cheers (

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posted at 11/12/2007 10:14 AM
ID# 98231
This is a reply to: 98229
Dear RC,
If you can pull that up but it was done by Dr. Lesley
Walker of Cancer Research UK on I believe 20,000 women. From what I got was that some feminists wanted to be reimbursed by housewife's husbands's since they felt they were holding up the economy by working outside the home and risking breast cancer. (sarcasm it seemed) Although it didn't state if the housecleaning women were married or also had jobs outside the home. Only that they spent approximately 15-17 hrs. a week doing housework which I would think involved grocery shopping and cooking. It seemed that what I got was that physical exercise like jogging didn't cut it. It was the housework that did the trick. I thought cancer was caused by a virus~!
Peace,
Prosperity

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posted at 11/13/2007 8:19 PM
ID# 98248
This is a reply to: 98231
"I thought cancer was caused by a virus~!
Peace,..."

Dear Prosperity,

I wouldn't shut the gate on that theory. Viruses are insidious and weird in many ways. If you get a glimpse at how they operate, it's a wonder they have not done us in a long time ago. Or at least mutated us into some hideous form of their liking by now.


Namaste,
Michael

re: bag of bones

posted at 11/13/2007 8:35 PM
ID# 98249
This is a reply to: 98225

ponderings said on

>Dear Michael....because I had totally mis-judged you in the other posting....made myself reread this one, too, and once, again....I owe you an apology for calling you a "bag of bones". That was totally uncalled for.....I said it, after reading your words too quickly and feeling so cold afterwards. I realize that this had nothing to do with you nor with what you were saying....this will teach me to slow down....ponder alittle bit more....and NOT be so rude to others. I am sorry, Michael and thank you for the learning.

Dear Ponderings,

Shite happens. The best we can do is do better next time.

I hope so at least. If I have to sit thru every single misapplied wordthought that fell from my pie hole this incarnation, my pastlife review is gonna be an 'all niter' just on that topic alone.
; )

namaste,
Michael

re: bag of bones

posted at 11/13/2007 8:57 PM
ID# 98250
This is a reply to: 98249
You are being very gracious, Michael, and it is much appreciated. Thank you. I chuckled at your "all niter". Thank you for your forgiveness. I'll do my best to earn it.

re: housework vs cancer

posted at 11/13/2007 10:49 PM
ID# 98253
This is a reply to: 98231
prosperiy,

Hi.

Well, I am not sure, then, what this Dr. Lesley Walker (or you) are on about. And, I trust he doesn't attribute all cancers to "a virus" (I believe certain cervical cancers are now linked to some viruses that may be passed thru sexual intercourse among other ways but the exact way that viruses may contribute to (not cause) an increas in the incidence of some cancer is as yet not well defined or understood)

Nevertheless, there is now a campaign in the USA to have young women innoculted against some of these viruses though no guarantee of actual prevention of cancer is given.

As for housekeeping? I suppose the more chemicals one is exposed to while doing house cleaning the more likely it is some 'disorder' might develop over time. But to sort out the relationship of varions OTC cleaners, exposure time, etc and cancer is seems well nigh impossible.

Cheers,

RC


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posted at 11/14/2007 12:37 PM
ID# 98255
This is a reply to: 98253
Otoharo!

I have been wondering about a number of things in relation this thread. If Lazaris is right that cancer is caused by self hate for instance, or as Xaris said is caused by the deisre to start life over. The body cells respond to the persons wishes. Suppose the way the body does all this is through the function of a virus?

finality

re: housework vs cancer

posted at 11/14/2007 7:17 PM
ID# 98269
This is a reply to: 98253
Dear RC
I don'[t believe the Doc said anything about a virus. I said that. Housecleaning supplies is a good point. I've heard about the new vaccine for young girls. Don't trust the immunizations all that much and for good reason. I believe AIDS was spread in Africa by vaccines intentionally to destroy the Africans. I don't trust the government.
Peace,
Prosperity

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posted at 11/15/2007 12:19 PM
ID# 98270
This is a reply to: 98269
Otoharo!

Prosperity, you might be interested in reading what Urantia Book says about this.

finality

re: Urantia? ha ha ha

posted at 11/22/2007 10:48 AM
ID# 98394
This is a reply to: 98270
Dear Finality,
Why might I be interested in the Urantia book? What is in it that is so secretive that you can't say it here?
If it's the same as what I say I believe or not so what? How do you know it's not complete bull?
geez, I give up! I'll stick to a Course in Miracles (not channeled as some believe.
Peace,
Prosperity

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posted at 11/24/2007 12:15 AM
ID# 98419
This is a reply to: 98394
prosperity,

Hi,

Perhaps 'a cousrse in miracles' is bull. The irony of it all is that irrgardeless of what one believes, belief is irrlevant.

:)

Cheers,

RC

re: Urantia? ha ha ha

posted at 11/24/2007 12:08 PM
ID# 98425
This is a reply to: 98419
Otoharo!

I agree. that is why I rely on what I know.

finality