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Otoharo!

I got a taste of what this is today, via Xaris. All of us who are involved in the system somehow are in worldliness. The system means jobs, computers, government, etc. It is as Jesus said, "be in the world but not of it!" Living on Social Security is worldliness. A person who lives on the income of a partner who receives social security is thus to that extent worldly.

What will happen at the moment of the big shift is that we who are worldly will still be in the third dimension as the fourth dimension takes over. For those like me with oodles of lifetimes living in this third world reiki can heal them. In fact healing them is a requirement for being able to exist in the fourth dimension.

The New World will be magnificent! I am healing as fast as I can getting as much help as I can at the same time. I truly desire to move out of this system. I guess that is the point of all I have said about the Big Shift. It will truly be a shift of dimentsions and will truly be Big.

I guess I always talk about reiki so I could have placed this in the reiki discussion board.

finality

finality,

/*\ Namaste :-}}

- I feel your placement of this here was just fine and appropriate

>:-}}

Reiki All Around,

All Blessings,

Firekeeper

I absolutely agree with firekeeper, finalty....your placement has been the very best....for all of us....thank you so much for caring.

Hi Finalty,

Could we go over this again. I think I got lost somewhere between the heading and the second sentence.

Birdy

Otoharo!

Birdy, all the talk I have done for a number of years regarding the big shift has the purpose of finding out how to be vibrating at the level of the fourth dimention so we can easily move with earth and all the humans who are also able. My group has begun to use the term worldly and wordliness as the contrast, those of us who don't make it.

Jesus taught about it also.

The aim is to live in the world but not of it.

Worldly refers to the system. Civilization is the system. Making a living requires us to participate in the system. that makes us worldly. So far as I can tell I will not make it unless I catch on to something that I can not now perceive. If I do catch on to it, I will share that,too.

I am finding out that even our diet has to change.

finality

ahhhhh, finality....changing to the Highest Harmony Rhythm...

Otoharo!

Fourth density is not the highest vibration. There are thirty dimensions according to St Germaine. However, so far as I know, the fourth dimension is as high as earth is getting to at this time.

finaltiy

finality,

Hi,

There are, it is estimated, an infinite number of dimensions.

Cheers (what a game of hide-and-seek they would allow),

RC

:)

Yes, the 10,000 worlds of the 10,000 Buddhas, or the infinite number of possible logical universes that the mathematicians live and play in.

I like to think of "folds" as a metaphor. If Emptiness is the reality of existence, then the illusion of solidity comes from folding the emptiness enough times to make shadows within the folds, then the shadows persuade themselves they are the reality, and that emptiness is to be avoided.

Blessings,
Aronaya

Finality, I had a clear message last year sometime, that came as "you don't need money to live". I am exploring in detail the meaning of that. It does seem as if money, as both the measure and the cause of the robustness of our living, is itself under a strain. And with that strain, people are pushed to find the truth of taking care of each other.

What do you think?

Blessings,
Aronaya

Otoharo!

Money is only ......... This is the only encroachment in my life of the aging process. I can not bring up the word I want to use. I know the word, I just can not find it! Anyway, it goes back to give and recieve being two sides of the same coin. In order to receive something we need to give. Money serves that purpose well. Exchange. That is it. We exchange one thing for another thing usually of equal value. I receive reiki from my friend. I value reiki as she is able to provide it. therefore, I owe her an exchange and since she can not come up with a service of equal value for me to use as an exchange. I give her money, not a check, but actual money. She values this money because she can exchange it for the plants she wants to put into her paradise of a ten acre garden. So money is only exchange. Anything we imbue as valuable can be used as exchange. That is all it is. It is how our employers exchange value to us when we do our work, etc. As a medium of exchange it is convenient.

finaltiy

aronaya,

/*\ Namaste :-}}

- even pre-western polynesian societies used cowry shells for 'currency'

- salt has been tried as 'currency' in some places where it was plentiful and others wanted it badly

- but, the advent of minted coins and later on paper currency backed by some standard (silver or gold) made commerce much easier and it is, bottom line, commerce that drives things

- in all my readings over the years in the anthropological literature I do not now recall any record of a 'successful', so-called moneyless culture\society

- even those that use barter do not do so exclusively; for some things they still need "money" - ususally when doing commerce with others who do use money

- this does not mean that a limited group of people cannot practice non-currency living among themselves if they are self-sufficient such that they do not need money to intereact with the outer world (grow everything they need, produce their own power, make their own tools\good, etc)

- I suppose an ideal, isolationist commune might qualify as a model but in practical terms I would doubt the success of such a venture (which likely would need $$$ to get started)

>:-}}

Reiki All Around,

All Blessings,

Firekeeper

Otoharo!

I agree that it is valuable when we have the impetus of taking care of each other. We would use that system except I have greater needs than others in my group. to even the score a bit, I use money. But we are open to other exchange systems.

finality

Yes, and I've heard that male penguins even offer brightly colored pebbles to the females for mating privileges.

I don't doubt that what you say is true. I was dubious about the "message" as well. However, currency, money has no intrinsic value -- you can't eat it, or build a shelter out of it, etc. It only has the value that people agree to assign to it. And, when forces of fear or scarcity or the wastage of war put pressure on the perceived value of the currency, then people have to retrieve ancestral memory and find creative ways of helping each other live.

I think it's a matter of emphasis -- so-called primitive societies may have used some money equivalents for trade etc., but I suspect that money was not used in regular daily life so much as we do now. And, that the perspective was different as to the value of money compared to, say, loving relations or common ceremony. Money was surplus, now it is seen as central to survival.

With such innovations as payment of interest, we created a concept of money as worth something in and of itself, while in reality it only has value for the sustenance it represents. Unhinged by modern finance from its roots, we become confused about how much is enough, too much, or not enough. Overnight, we can go from plenty to penury, as inflation or deflation change the ground rules.

I like money, and what it can help me accomplish. I just wonder if it comes from some kind of natural law, or have we as humans made choices that give money such outlandish power in our lives.

Blessings,
Aronaya

aronaya,

/*\ Namaste :-}}

- you said, in part: "I like money, and what it can help me accomplish."

- you have touched, in part, on the crux of the matter

- "accomplish"; want

- my brother is a die-hard, purist Marxist (or as best as he can live in this world)

- he is quite bright, well educated, and well read yet does not see that even Marx (and Engels) did not allow for what is commonly termed 'human nature'

- as humans, we are gifted with a brain that is inquisitive

- and the answers, as it happens, often involve the acquisition of one thing or another - this has developed into the desire for wealth which then allows for more acquisition (and later, philanthropy as well)

- the inability to adequately account for and deal with 'human nature' is, to me, the single greatest failing of Marxist (pure socialist) thought

- the desire for acquisition (the perception that I - me being anyone - do not have enough) is, afterall, the forebearer of greed and avarice

- what is enough is, like everything else, a matter of perception and to that extent, Illusory, though no less problematic

Reiki All Around,

All Blessings,

Firekeeper

Otoharo!

Aronaya, you provoke a lot of thought. You are preparing all of us who read you for the coming shift when all that you say comes true instantly. (I have never used money for interest. that was an eye opener for me.)

finaality